Re: Thus Das starts about Dasham Granth
Mahakal ,Akal Makar and Shiva
Well Das would like to say that in past das has come accross many hindus who have been sayiong that ouur Panj Kakars are nothing but an extension of there 'Panch Makar'.This is nonesesnse becasue as per Tantra(sceince to tap system ruuing in sapce) there are Trey Makars ie Mans(meat),Madira(Alchhal) and Maithun(sex).
They are such a dud that they took the work of peoples like S. Bhag Singh Ji Ambala(himself an ex Hindu ?like das) that they have started to say that Tenth Master himself was doing something with Makars(ms). Das is lacking time else das could have given complete antidote to critiques oof Chaupai Sahib given by S. Gurbax Singh Ji but Das will give it someother day.Das can just put thing like to show you all that how iresponsible sirdar Sahib ji wrote that critique
There is a line Maran Kaal Ka Trass Niveriye
Delver from the tragedy of the time of death.
Well there he took death as the time of physical death and not of spritual death whoich caomes by forgetting God.
And can Guru be afraid of such thing the answer is no.
Guru did used term dog(Kukar),Neech(lower) for himself and used term Papi(sinner) etc. Term Dolna or getting aloof from spritual goal and preying for protection from Akal to prevent such state was also asked by Gurus in Guru Granth sahib Ji.
That does not mean that Gurus were like that but Gurus were delvering such verses from Akal which were to be used by sinners oor people who were lower spritually and these verses were to uplift them.
So this Trass of Maran Kal was not with Guru but initials converts who were yet to be Khalsa.
Das can do go word by word Anti dote for Sirdar Sahibs writing but Das is at present more concerned to undo this myth that Mahakal of Dasham Granth is Shiva.
Das would like to tell that at one point of time perhaps young child Markande was destaind to dies but he worshipped Shiva and Shiva killed Death and god of death Yama to save Markande so is he called Mahakal.
There are cults of yogis who may or may not be realted to naths but do consider Shiva as Mahakal and no other separte Mahakal is there.
As per Nath Yogis there creed is also etrnal there first Nath is Bhole Nath(shiva) Next is Bhairo(Kal Bhairav) and so on and so forth.
As per the writing of Gorkh Nath Ji there God is also Nirankar but for unty to it we need to do lot of physcal posturing of Yoga.Shiva and Bhairav etc all worship Nirankar as per them.
Needles to say that like the God of Jews,Christians(Unitarian one),Muslims and Sikhs God of Naths is the same but way is not aproved by Gurmat.
But Naths are not anti idol worshipping at least at present.
Das will quote 'contrversial parts' of Dasham Granth to prove it.
Lets us take shiva
266 Triya chartar says stone traped in vagina(Shiv ling) can not be God.
405 states that from the foot of (A)Kal shiva Ji incarnated.Kal Pai Shiv Jo Avtara.
That (A) Kal created Yogi Shiva.Javan Kaal Jogi Siv Kio.
In Vachitar Natak
we ahve
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from the said page
Mahadev Devan ie God of shiva
Maehan mahantan ie greater than Shiva
Next page repats
Mahdev Devan
Then next page says that without mother and father
but as per Hindus shiva was born out of brahma who is born out of vishnu.
Then God is ermed Mahakal Kalan ie death to super death ie Akal can kill Shiva who killed Death as per myth.(Here writer has made it clear that this God is not that who is Killler of Death or Yama but killer of Mahakal Shiva).
Similar thing can be seen that in Salok Mahal 9th where at one place it is writtan Rama(Son of Dashrath) has gone but Take refuge of Ram(Akal) it is writtan otherwise.
It is further noted that on page 97 we are tlaking about sound of Damaru(a sort of instrument of Shiva) which in fact is sewed(Sita) with Bridge (Set) Chartan(Crown).The instrument of this God is tied to crwon or what we call the supriamcy of this God and all sounds of emothions continous Haha or Huhu(Good and Bad) feelings Laughetr with the diffferance.
Then begul or Sankh is there at present also unlike that of Shiva which may only come at end of world.AS it is still there like fire of doom.
Thing to rember that tenase here is present.
page 98 is more clear
The rosary of heads glorified his neck, seeing which the god Shiva feels abashed.
next isPage 102.
ਚਮੱਕ ਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਸੀਸਿਯੰ ॥ ਰਹਿਓ ਲਜਾਇ ਈਸਯੰ ॥
चमक चंद्र सीसियं ॥ रहिओ लजाइ ईसयं ॥
Chanmak Chandra Sasiyan,Lakhe Laje Isyan.
The moon is bearning on his head, seeing which the god Shiva feels shy
(this may even mean that so called Shiva who has so called moon on his head is also be ashamed after seeing/thing of Lord)
The ornaments of Nagas bedeck his neck. Which have the power of destruction for the tyrants. 46.
(this may also mean that one who has serpant in neck also has many polluted enmies(while Akal has no realtives in any type(See previous pages of the same).
As it is saying that
at page 103.
His gait is like that of an elephant, intoxicated with wine. His loud thunder appears like the roar of a cub in the forest.53
Here it nowhere writtan that God is taking liquer.
In fact to drive Elephant into Artillary bombarding fortess there is no way wrong to let it have becoame senseless with wine and attack the enemies.
Thou art inebriated, holding the terrible sword in Thy hand. Both the gods and demons sing the eulogy of His victory.55.
Here it is writtan that just before it that God has two Tetth very strong and foe run after seeing that.
Thing to rember that Das alrerady wrote that previously God here was said formeless then how can it have all this.
Well in Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mercyfull Eyes(Krpa Katakh),Charam Kamal(Feet like Lotus),Kar Dharyo(Keeping or enabling Hands) etc are writtan to just show mercy and refuge of God as God's limbs or as Qualities of God as limb.
To eliminate foe here to we have mrecilessness to foe(like Auranaga or Ghuandchand) in the form of Tooth.
to put it in more clear.
Fleaing of foe in battlefield due to fear Guru say is the tooth of Akal.
next line well is like this.
As an intoxicated person listen to know one and do as he/she deem fit so is Akal under the control of no one.
So uncontrolable power(Swrod in Hand) is proved by both evil and good singing glory of God.
As evil of Paharis or Mughal were also worshipping Allah or Allakh Niranajan and that was the same God of Guru but in them it was attacking own creed of Khalsa to make them strong.Guru did see evil also as the manifesation of God and a as gift of God to good as without evil good is worthless.Part 2
Page 104 is mor ethen sufficent to prove that God Akal is not the one of Tantrics,yogisor Brahmcharis but above them and actualy that is the one who killed or neutralised evil which was so far ben attributed to Vishnu or Durga so in fact Akal is real Vishnu or Durga.
As Das wrote before that Guru Ji says that Kal is Akal only and other gods and demon are huuman with god or Bad attribute both in Vachitar Natak and Akalustat(as Manas Ki Jaat...Devta Adev,Jachchh,Gandrap,Turak,Hindu Nayrre Nyare Deshan ke Besh ko Prabav hai ie due to regional varitation we have gods,demon,turks or hindus) while vachitar Natak says that Bad doer is Asur(evil) and good doer is dev or god.And All deitiies at the end of Vachitar Natak are termed as Avtar or incarntaions so they were born so were not Akal or eternal so Kal is not the one.Even godess like Radha(she is eternal mate of Krishna in a world called Golok) and Chandi are termed Female women in Triya Charitar.
This all was there to prove that they were not supernatural to be relied upon as they were human and did defeat evial so as a human he can also defeat the evil be it hight caste hindu paharis or Mughal jeehadis.
What later on Germans like Maxmuller decoded that often mythical charectors were human maybe at any time was told by Guru much earlier.
As Guru followed timelss so they were beyond that backage and we need to recoganise that he was ahead of his time.Thats why perhaps if some one reads so Durga Patt by Guru will never worship Durga as femnale godess and maybe reborn as feamle but will worship Durga ie Fortess ie Akal as Durg is fort and Durga means fortess.And in old Testmeant also God is termed as Forestess in Palsm that nothing but a message for last refuge or unbreakable refuge.
ਕਹੋ ਕੁੰਟ ਕੌਨੈ ਬਿਖੈ ਭਾਜ ਬਾਚੈ ॥ ਸਭੰ ਸੀਸ ਕੇ ਸੰਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਨਾਚੈ ॥੬੦॥
कहो कुंट कौनै बिखै भाज बाचै ॥ सभं सीस के संग स्री काल नाचै ॥६०॥
Tell me, in which direction you can flee and remain safe? Since the KAL dances over the heads of all.60.
ਕਰੇ ਕੋਟ ਕੋਊ ਧਰੇ ਕੋਟ ਓਟੰ ॥ ਬਚੈਗੋ ਨ ਕਿਉਹੂੰ ਕਰੈ ਕਾਲ ਚੋਟੰ ॥
करे कोट कोऊ धरे कोट ओटं ॥ बचैगो न किउहूं करै काल चोटं ॥
Through one may erect millions of forts and may remain under their protection, even then, in the case of a blow of KAL, he will not be saved in any way.
ਲਿਖੰ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਪੜ੍ਹੰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੋਟੰ ॥ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਰਨ ਤਾਂ ਕੀ ਨਹੀ ਔਰ ਓਟੰ ॥੬੧॥
लिखं जंत्र केते पड़्हं मंत्र कोटं ॥ बिना सरन तां की नही और ओटं ॥६१॥
Though one may write many Yantras and recite millions of mantras, even then he cannot be saved. No other shelter can save one without His refuge.61.
ਲਿਖੰ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਥਾਕੇ ਪੜ੍ਹੰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹਾਰੇ ॥ ਕਰੇ ਕਾਲ ਤੇ ਅੰਤ ਲੈ ਕੈ ਬਿਚਾਰੇ ॥
लिखं जंत्र थाके पड़्हं मंत्र हारे ॥ करे काल ते अंत लै कै बिचारे ॥
The writers of Yantras have grown weary and the reciters of mantras have accepted defeat. But ultimately, they all have been destroyed by KAL.
ਕਿਤਿਓ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਸਾਧੇ ਜੁ ਜਨਮੰ ਬਿਤਾਇਓ ॥ ਭਏ ਫੋਕਟੰ ਕਾਜ ਏਕੈ ਨ ਆਇਓ ॥੬੨॥
कितिओ तंत्र साधे जु जनमं बिताइओ ॥ भए फोकटं काज एकै न आइओ ॥६२॥
Many Tantras have been tamed and in such endeavours one hath wasted his birth. All have become useless and none hath proved useful.62.
ਕਿਤੇ ਨਾਸ ਮੂੰਦੇ ਭਏ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਚਾਰੀ ॥ ਕਿਤੇ ਕੰਠ ਕੰਠੀ ਜਟਾ ਸੀਸ ਧਾਰੀ ॥
किते नास मूंदे भए ब्रहमचारी ॥ किते कंठ कंठी जटा सीस धारी ॥
Many have become Brahmacharis and have closed their nostrils (in their process of contemplation). Many have worn Kanthi (necklace) on their necks and have matted hair on their heads.
ਕਿਤੇ ਚੀਰ ਕਾਨੰ ਜੁਗੀਸੰ ਕਹਾਯੰ ॥ ਸਭੈ ਫੋਕਟੰ ਧਰਮ ਕਾਮੰ ਨ ਆਯੰ ॥੬੩॥
किते चीर कानं जुगीसं कहायं ॥ सभै फोकटं धरम कामं न आयं ॥६३॥
Many have got their ears perforated and caused others to call them great Yogis. All such religious observances were useless and none of them became useful.63.
ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟਭੰ ਰਾਛਸੇਸੰ ਬਲੀਅੰ ॥ ਸਮੈ ਆਪਨੀ ਕਾਲ ਤੇਊ ਦਲੀਅੰ ॥
मधु कीटभं राछसेसं बलीअं ॥ समै आपनी काल तेऊ दलीअं ॥
There had been mighty demon-kings like Madhu and Kaitabh, the KAL crushed them on their turn.
ਭਏ ਸੁੰਭ ਨੈਸੁੰਭ ਸ੍ਰੋਣੰਤ ਬੀਜੰ ॥ ਤੇਊ ਕਾਲ ਕੀਨੇ ਪ੍ਰਰੇਜੰ ਪ੍ਰਰੇਜੰ ॥੬੪॥
भए सु्मभ नैसु्मभ स्रोणंत बीजं ॥ तेऊ काल कीने प्ररेजं प्ररेजं ॥६४॥
Then there were Sumbah, Nisumbh and Sranavat Beef. They were also chopped into bits by KAL.64.
ਬਲੀ ਪ੍ਰਿਥੀਅੰ ਮਾਨਧਾਤਾ ਮਹੀਪੰ ॥ ਜਿਨੈ ਰਥ ਚੱਕ੍ਰ ਕੀਏ ਸਾਤ ਦੀਪੰ ॥
बली प्रिथीअं मानधाता महीपं ॥ जिनै रथ चक्र कीए सात दीपं ॥
The mighty king Prithu and the great sovereign like Mandhata who had demarcated seven continents with his chariot-wheel.
ਭੁਜੰ ਭੀਮ ਭਰਥੰ ਜਗੰ ਜੀਤਿ ਡੰਡੰਯਾ ॥ ਤਿਨੈ ਅੰਤ ਕੇ ਅੰਤ ਕੌ ਕਾਲ ਖੰਡੰਯਾ ॥੬੫॥
भुजं भीम भरथं जगं जीति डंडंया ॥ तिनै अंत के अंत कौ काल खंडंया ॥६५॥
The king Bhim and the Bharat, who had conquered and brought the world under their control with the strength of arms. They were all destroyed by KAL, when they were nearing their end.65.
ਜਿਨੈ ਦੀਪ ਦੀਪੰ ਦੁਹਾਈ ਫਿਰਾਈ ॥ ਭੁਜਾ ਦੰਡ ਦੈ ਛੋਣਿ ਛੱਤ੍ਰੰ ਛਿਨਾਈ ॥
जिनै दीप दीपं दुहाई फिराई ॥ भुजा दंड दै छोणि छत्रं छिनाई ॥
He, who hath created the frightening dominance of His Name. He, who had snatched the earth from the Kshatriyas with the strength of staff-like arms.
http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=105
see this link also
See page 108
Kal Hi pai Bhyo Brham Siv Kal Hi Pai Bhyo Jugiya Hai.
At the instance of KAL, Brahma appeared and also at the instance of KAL the Yogi Shiva appeared
this can also be writtan as Akal's only feet became Brahma and that only trook form of Yogis or Shiva.
So that is more than sufficent what Das think to let it be claer that Akal is not the one bvounded by Yogis or Shiva
Then
All the other prevalent object are within KAL(time), only One supreme KAL is ever Timeless and eternal.84.
At other places Sambh Thapna or making Linga(Panch Makri do the same in creamtion ground) is also termed usless.
see the link
http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=111
and few verses
Thou hast recited the name of Brahma and established Shivalingam, even then none could save thee.
Thou hast observed millions of austerities for millions of days, but thou couldst not be recompensed even for the value of a couldst not be recompensed even for the value of a cowrie.
The Mantra recited for fulfillment of worldly desires doth not even bring the least gain and none of such Mantras can`t save from the blow of KAL.97
Here Das will write it agaqin
Kamuk Mantra Kasire Ke Kam Na Kal Ko Ghav Kinhu Na Bhachyo.
THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT IT IS BY MAKKARIS AS THEY DO HAVE KAMUK MANTRAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SEX AND JUST RECITING THEM DOES NOT DELIVERS FROM DEATH.
Here As in Akal Ustat we have Sabh Ka Kal,Sabhan Ka Karta ie Death of All,Creator oof so as an Attribute we can say that Akal is termed as Kal ie time or Death for enmies / godess or god of foes.
In fact MahKal Kalka,Deb Kalka or Mat Kalka also has a deeper meaning.
ie super death to time(elinator of time),Deb(i) Call Ka or God of time(as only one under whose control times rests whil all the three hindu gos are bind with time) and Mat Kal Ka or Mother of time ie creator of time as that energy is the one who made matter and change in matter makes time.
Yet without uynderstanding it some missioanries tried to enmass publish Guru Granth Sahib Ji without Raag Mala so that let people have impression that Actual Guru Granth Sahib Ji are without it.
In order to nullify Triya Charitar there were attempts to spread rumours that as few people have initiaated the Chaupai Sahib from Akal Ustat during Baptisim so Chaupayee Sahib of Triya Charitar is false.
Lator on it was termed that Baptism is false.Them liewise some respected person said that Damdami Bir was Granth is Granth(book)of Tenth Master.
In desperation due to lack of faith does make many of us feel afraid and we use unfair means.God deliver us from such things.
Das will only give two more exapmple from the same page
Why doth thou indulge in false austerities, because they will not bring in gain of even one cowrie
O fool! Fall at the feet of Lord-God, the Lord is not within the stone-idols.99.
http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=112
all these things are going against what Tri Maakaris were doing.
They do a sort of Mantra(recital of verses) and Yoga(Vachitar Natak has fun making of one who do Parnayamas) so that a serpeant or Kundalini gets set into then via there Swathidhyan Chakra(it is near Genital).
Note Das will some day give name of this gland in medical terms also.
As during climax in intercourse there could be some time of relaxation they tend to find pleasure in that and in order to provide potency to there sexual health they may eat meat and wine.
Such things are often doen in secret places where peo-ple seldom go due to fear like creamtion ground where even the human reamihns are eaten from half burnt pyre.
That sort of thing weahter make them powerfull with supernatural power or not is not the question but weather it has any relevense with Dasham Granth is the moot question.
Well answer is that lower caste people who Guru wanted to make rulers were entrapped by theses Makkaris and were in this occult and such thing made them usless punk unworhty to fend for themselves.
So Guru did use there vocbualry to let them get out of the cluches of Makkaris who too were not muchj bothered about caste but were often lead by Brahmins but having Jajman(devotees) from lowest to lower caste.
So weapn which was so far used to sacrife goat to devi became devi and defeated High caste Hindu and Fantic Muslims.
Usage of meatin food was allowed and so was use of Alchhal in meidcine or in war(as Chemichal only to arise Elphant etc.)
And all fear of unknown wide Dakinis or dead was over come by telling that such things are treival for Wariors.
Sex was also becoming something very small in front of person who sacrifise as it is writttan that Many Apsras or fairies run to get hold of dead in WAr(In Islam concept of Hurries is like that to be given after Qayamat(Doom) and forever).
Here it is after death but if Warrier is religeous he/she get higher status inspite of attempts from Apasara.
ie even after death Sex can act as allurement but Warrier dod not go and Apsara themselves come and keep on trying continously(but nver succed).
Das would like all to read Dasham Granth carefully and try to understand it only after dep look and not relying upon work of any other.
like if someone say in this case that S. Bhag Singh ji said that Chaupaee Sahib Ji are translation of some Hindu scripture then there are verses in Guru Granth Sahib ji similar to that of Holy Kurans mention or look like Vedantic.
But we know that Vedantas have no concept of devotion so ego increase and such people can not make united coharant fightinh force.
So instance or attributes could hvae been taken from past but to use them to sing the glory of Akal as Akal is only worthy for all attribute.
Das at last may ask to put any number from Triya Charitar which is seemed to be vulger and Das can explain them.
As Das is busy with other works so it may take some time but one or two numbers can be given.
Das repaeat that audience of Guru were people from diverse Background not Khartris or Jatts or Punjabis or Biharis or Telis only and thinking this in mind and after broadening of scope we can get good answers.
(Concluded)
