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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 146055" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>What I have written above is a statement of fact. Guru Gobind Singh Ji in 1705....MORE than 6 years AFTER Vasakhi 1699 ( when the "Amrit banis" of Nitnem are supposed to be read)..</p><p>DID NOT SEE FIT to add these to the ORIGINAL NITNEM inside OUR GURU - SGGS on Pannas 1-13. These still contain the Jap, Sodar, So Purakh and Sohila.</p><p>Now the question is: IS the SGGS our GURU ?? IF SO..is our GURU INADEQUATE in providing us the NITNEM ? 2. Secondly Do we have Full Faith in SGGS that it is the COMPLETE GURU ? If so then does it provide us the COMPLETE NITNEM ?. SAMPOORAN GURU ?? SAMPOORAN NITNEM ??</p><p></p><p>SRM - made by the Guru Khalsa Panth in 1945. Contains a type of REHRASS which others call "SHORT" Rehrass. The Damdami Taksaal. other jathebandis, naanksariahs etc etc have a LONGER VERSION..they call it "SAMPOORAN REHRASS"...this contains much more than just the Benti Chaupaii. SO what happened is..SOME "mahapurash"..Sri 108..Baba Jis..Brahmgyanis..Nihungs..decided that the SHORT REHRASS of SRM 1945 is TOO SHORT for their liking...they ADDED more stuff...ARRILLS and dohras from DSM Banis...others added other shabads..and called their verison "SAMPOORAN"....the Question is..WHO DECIDES "SAMPOORAN" ?? is it OUR GURU ?? SGGS ?? did the Sampooran GURU provide the SAMPOORAN rehrass ?? or NO ?? the Brahmgyanis had to FINISH the job for the UNSAMPOORAN GURU ?? we have to decide..its not a question of..more bani..better..feels better..sounds good..blah blah..if so WHY NOT READ the entire 1429 angs daily as NITNEM ?? WHY DID 2 GURUS CHOOSE the Shabads on Pages 1-13 ?? why not make that 26 pages..256 pages..more bani..better ?? EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL is not the answer !!</p><p></p><p>WE Cant agree on the SAMPOORAN GURU...we cant agree on the SRM 1945...what can we agree on ?? The Sampooran GURU gives us a Most PRACTICAL NITNEM..that almost everyone can do with ease while WORKING and as a Householder...Early Morning Breakfast with Japji...about 7 minutes...evening Sodar and So Purakh....about 10 minutes..at Bed Time Sohila - 3 minutes. Then we added..Jaap, Swaiyahs, some other shbads...Anand sahib FULL...Sukhmani Sahib...asa dee vaar....rehrass had shabads added, benti chaupaii...swaiyahs, arrills, etc etc...more and more time necessary....less and less people doing it..and whats worse is EACH DERA has its very own version...own additions..each jathebandi has its long and shorts...free for all cartwheel....not at all the ideal situation the SAMPOORAN GURU SHOWS US right from 1708 !!! We MUST STOP..and THINK..and RESTRAIN OURSELVES in this free fall situation..and return to the SAMPOORAN GURU.</p><p></p><p>PS. Since I am retired and thus free..I have 2 sets of daily Nitnems...MY OWN private one following Malaysian standard time ( 08Hrs + GST) and i fully ENJOY the SECOND NITNEM broadcast via satellite from Hazoor sahib/ PTC Chakdeh...AND..Darbar sahib Amritsar via PTC NEWS due to the Indian Time being 2.5 hours BEHIND Malaysian time !! Thus I also enjoy Daily Nitnem form Bangla sahib, Rakabganj Sahib Delhi..Chardikalla TIME TV...as well as MH 1 Muisc...Gurdwaras all over Canada...Patiala..Ludhiana. Via DOORDARSHAN Jalnadhar...etc etc...and i REALLY ENJOY ALL these varying nitnems..short and long rehrasses and all...but a RULE is a RULE..and the SRM should be ONE RULE FOR ALL. I LOOK forward to THAT DAY.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 146055, member: 189"] What I have written above is a statement of fact. Guru Gobind Singh Ji in 1705....MORE than 6 years AFTER Vasakhi 1699 ( when the "Amrit banis" of Nitnem are supposed to be read).. DID NOT SEE FIT to add these to the ORIGINAL NITNEM inside OUR GURU - SGGS on Pannas 1-13. These still contain the Jap, Sodar, So Purakh and Sohila. Now the question is: IS the SGGS our GURU ?? IF SO..is our GURU INADEQUATE in providing us the NITNEM ? 2. Secondly Do we have Full Faith in SGGS that it is the COMPLETE GURU ? If so then does it provide us the COMPLETE NITNEM ?. SAMPOORAN GURU ?? SAMPOORAN NITNEM ?? SRM - made by the Guru Khalsa Panth in 1945. Contains a type of REHRASS which others call "SHORT" Rehrass. The Damdami Taksaal. other jathebandis, naanksariahs etc etc have a LONGER VERSION..they call it "SAMPOORAN REHRASS"...this contains much more than just the Benti Chaupaii. SO what happened is..SOME "mahapurash"..Sri 108..Baba Jis..Brahmgyanis..Nihungs..decided that the SHORT REHRASS of SRM 1945 is TOO SHORT for their liking...they ADDED more stuff...ARRILLS and dohras from DSM Banis...others added other shabads..and called their verison "SAMPOORAN"....the Question is..WHO DECIDES "SAMPOORAN" ?? is it OUR GURU ?? SGGS ?? did the Sampooran GURU provide the SAMPOORAN rehrass ?? or NO ?? the Brahmgyanis had to FINISH the job for the UNSAMPOORAN GURU ?? we have to decide..its not a question of..more bani..better..feels better..sounds good..blah blah..if so WHY NOT READ the entire 1429 angs daily as NITNEM ?? WHY DID 2 GURUS CHOOSE the Shabads on Pages 1-13 ?? why not make that 26 pages..256 pages..more bani..better ?? EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL is not the answer !! WE Cant agree on the SAMPOORAN GURU...we cant agree on the SRM 1945...what can we agree on ?? The Sampooran GURU gives us a Most PRACTICAL NITNEM..that almost everyone can do with ease while WORKING and as a Householder...Early Morning Breakfast with Japji...about 7 minutes...evening Sodar and So Purakh....about 10 minutes..at Bed Time Sohila - 3 minutes. Then we added..Jaap, Swaiyahs, some other shbads...Anand sahib FULL...Sukhmani Sahib...asa dee vaar....rehrass had shabads added, benti chaupaii...swaiyahs, arrills, etc etc...more and more time necessary....less and less people doing it..and whats worse is EACH DERA has its very own version...own additions..each jathebandi has its long and shorts...free for all cartwheel....not at all the ideal situation the SAMPOORAN GURU SHOWS US right from 1708 !!! We MUST STOP..and THINK..and RESTRAIN OURSELVES in this free fall situation..and return to the SAMPOORAN GURU. PS. Since I am retired and thus free..I have 2 sets of daily Nitnems...MY OWN private one following Malaysian standard time ( 08Hrs + GST) and i fully ENJOY the SECOND NITNEM broadcast via satellite from Hazoor sahib/ PTC Chakdeh...AND..Darbar sahib Amritsar via PTC NEWS due to the Indian Time being 2.5 hours BEHIND Malaysian time !! Thus I also enjoy Daily Nitnem form Bangla sahib, Rakabganj Sahib Delhi..Chardikalla TIME TV...as well as MH 1 Muisc...Gurdwaras all over Canada...Patiala..Ludhiana. Via DOORDARSHAN Jalnadhar...etc etc...and i REALLY ENJOY ALL these varying nitnems..short and long rehrasses and all...but a RULE is a RULE..and the SRM should be ONE RULE FOR ALL. I LOOK forward to THAT DAY.:-) [/QUOTE]
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