Seeing as bansawalinama has been brought up in many recent discussions on this forum, I would like to start this topic so we can actually look at what the text says. Rather than just quote texts to claim they say such and such without any actual looking at the texts in question. It's very important to look at texts and to understand what they are saying, so that we do not get the wrong idea of what is being said. Having said that some texts are quite difficult to understand, whilst others are a little more straightforward. Bansawalinama is a little more straighforward to look at compared to Charitropakhyan etc. I would like to share these two references in regards to the recent discussions we have been having here. I hope you all will join me in discussion.