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ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
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Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
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Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
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Chhant (1278)
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<blockquote data-quote="smiles" data-source="post: 125548" data-attributes="member: 11335"><p>First of all it is very heard to find a true Sant or Brhamgyani. Even if you find him, then they distance themselves from public as they are committed to naam simran and stay low profile, in simplicity without advertising them selves.</p><p></p><p>I totally agree with you that all of the dhongis that are commercializing are at fault and it is our stupid public that does not know better. Anyone who starts amrit parchar becomes like a demi god. One has to see the lifestyle of the person under a microscope and over number of years to realize if there is any credibility or not.</p><p></p><p>I agree that the Doctors do wonderful things but they also can not cheat death sometime. In my mother's case who had cancer, she was told by the doctors and biochemists that she was going to die in 7 days, She had brain odema and was in a comma. We called our Sant babaji and told him about it and he asked me "Maa bachaani eh bhai" ,, I said yes Babaji please do kirpa. We all prayed next to my mom-- 23 of us. I did path almost 20 hrs a day next to her and my feet started to hurt from standing. One night I was doing Chaupai sahib path repeatedly. My mom;s fever was 104 and she needed blood transfusion and the doctors could not do this until the fever came down. Around midnight, my mom suddenly woke up and sat upright. She had been in coma and not talking. She was speaking something jibberish and I asked her what is going on. She said .. they are here. I said are these Sikhs with open beards. She said yes they are and they are here now. I did gur fateh to them loudly and asked my mother to tell them that I have done request to Sant babaji and also that the children and requesting some additional time to spend with the mother. She did that benti and then started to laugh. I asked what happened, she said they agreed and are leaving. I thanked them loudly and did gur fateh again. Later I thought perhaps due to high fever mom might have become delusional but I kept doing my path and did believe that yes may be this experience was true. After 1 hour her fever started to come down and at 2 AM the blood was given to her.</p><p></p><p>In the morning she gathered all of my brothers and sisters and called the eldest brother and told him to note this thing very carefully and write it down somewhere. She said that she might have left last night as the people came to get her and that Sant babaji's ardaas and also that I made a request and they agreed that your son is pressing this issue and therefore we will give you 6 months.</p><p></p><p>In the morning I got a call from one of the sangat person that babaji stayed in his room for 5 days without food in his room and called one person in the room that day and said to call Canada and let them know that his mother is now OK and out of danger. There was a lot of sangat sitting outside all the time. After this Babaji became very sick and could not walk for a month. My mom of course lived and walked out of that hospital. All the doctor's were very surprised and the Bio Chemist started crying, a 6ft tall person said that he has not seen 1 person in his life come out of that condition and even in all the books he was taught and read it was a terminal fatal condition where my mom had been. </p><p></p><p>Later when mom was better, I went and brought Sant babaji to Canada and he stayed with me for 10 days. He had become weak and needed support to walk. I asked him Babaji " kuch deelai hogai". He replied, nothing comes free. if you have to take something then you have to give something. After this he got more sick when he went to india but told me that my mother had 6 months extension.</p><p></p><p>After exactly 6 months my mom was admitted to hospital and she got very critical. I did not call Sant babaji as I did not want to bother him anymore after realizing that he had take some of the pain to relieve the pain elsewhere. At 11.30 one morning, I got a call from Babaji using a sangat's hand phone ( I had sent him two mobile phones and he never used them and gave them away) and he told me, Sarbjeet 30 mins reh gaye teri maa vaste, hun waheguru da jaap karo sare. He told me to get 5 nitnemi sikhs including Gurduwara Giani ASAP. We did that and they arrive just before 12.00 PM and my mom passed exactly at 10.00 PM.</p><p></p><p>There are many examples like this. I had cut my hair, used to drink 40 pounder scotch and used fry 30-40 lbs of chicken on a single evening and he changed my life with love. For 15 years now I have not touched alcohol, meat and have a full beard and turban. He did this with love and under his affection I changed. I do 5 Japji sahib paths every day. I did full guru granth sahib path with my wife's assistance in 5 days. Basically we would keep taking shifts and do path all day.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry that you have not met any real True Sants which are honored in Sukhamani sahib.. Even guru ji says Raam sant me pedh kich nahi... To talk bad about sants also is spoken in Sukhmani sahib.. sant ka dhoki adbich te tute.. so address your anger at Dhongis not at people who have spent life time doing naam simran and doing bhalaa for people.</p><p></p><p>Go to Nathal pur pind and ask about Late Sant Ajit Singh ji.. and people will tell you his good deeds and brahamgyani avastahaa that people got to feel. He was a farmer Jatt sikh who worked hard with his hands but was always doing naam simran. This comes from number of lives naam simran and does not come from doing keertan or just doing amrit parchar and doing jakarai at Gurduwaras.</p><p></p><p>Seek and ye shall find, if you really have a quest. Otherwise go on criticizing the True Brahamgyanis and Sants. Think about it when your kids are sick the first thing we do is start doing ardaas and benti's so the people who have spent life times or several life times doing naam simran have a much closer connection to Akal purakh and to learn a better way of life from them has no harm. You have to find the right person. Perhaps some day you will meet one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smiles, post: 125548, member: 11335"] First of all it is very heard to find a true Sant or Brhamgyani. Even if you find him, then they distance themselves from public as they are committed to naam simran and stay low profile, in simplicity without advertising them selves. I totally agree with you that all of the dhongis that are commercializing are at fault and it is our stupid public that does not know better. Anyone who starts amrit parchar becomes like a demi god. One has to see the lifestyle of the person under a microscope and over number of years to realize if there is any credibility or not. I agree that the Doctors do wonderful things but they also can not cheat death sometime. In my mother's case who had cancer, she was told by the doctors and biochemists that she was going to die in 7 days, She had brain odema and was in a comma. We called our Sant babaji and told him about it and he asked me "Maa bachaani eh bhai" ,, I said yes Babaji please do kirpa. We all prayed next to my mom-- 23 of us. I did path almost 20 hrs a day next to her and my feet started to hurt from standing. One night I was doing Chaupai sahib path repeatedly. My mom;s fever was 104 and she needed blood transfusion and the doctors could not do this until the fever came down. Around midnight, my mom suddenly woke up and sat upright. She had been in coma and not talking. She was speaking something jibberish and I asked her what is going on. She said .. they are here. I said are these Sikhs with open beards. She said yes they are and they are here now. I did gur fateh to them loudly and asked my mother to tell them that I have done request to Sant babaji and also that the children and requesting some additional time to spend with the mother. She did that benti and then started to laugh. I asked what happened, she said they agreed and are leaving. I thanked them loudly and did gur fateh again. Later I thought perhaps due to high fever mom might have become delusional but I kept doing my path and did believe that yes may be this experience was true. After 1 hour her fever started to come down and at 2 AM the blood was given to her. In the morning she gathered all of my brothers and sisters and called the eldest brother and told him to note this thing very carefully and write it down somewhere. She said that she might have left last night as the people came to get her and that Sant babaji's ardaas and also that I made a request and they agreed that your son is pressing this issue and therefore we will give you 6 months. In the morning I got a call from one of the sangat person that babaji stayed in his room for 5 days without food in his room and called one person in the room that day and said to call Canada and let them know that his mother is now OK and out of danger. There was a lot of sangat sitting outside all the time. After this Babaji became very sick and could not walk for a month. My mom of course lived and walked out of that hospital. All the doctor's were very surprised and the Bio Chemist started crying, a 6ft tall person said that he has not seen 1 person in his life come out of that condition and even in all the books he was taught and read it was a terminal fatal condition where my mom had been. Later when mom was better, I went and brought Sant babaji to Canada and he stayed with me for 10 days. He had become weak and needed support to walk. I asked him Babaji " kuch deelai hogai". He replied, nothing comes free. if you have to take something then you have to give something. After this he got more sick when he went to india but told me that my mother had 6 months extension. After exactly 6 months my mom was admitted to hospital and she got very critical. I did not call Sant babaji as I did not want to bother him anymore after realizing that he had take some of the pain to relieve the pain elsewhere. At 11.30 one morning, I got a call from Babaji using a sangat's hand phone ( I had sent him two mobile phones and he never used them and gave them away) and he told me, Sarbjeet 30 mins reh gaye teri maa vaste, hun waheguru da jaap karo sare. He told me to get 5 nitnemi sikhs including Gurduwara Giani ASAP. We did that and they arrive just before 12.00 PM and my mom passed exactly at 10.00 PM. There are many examples like this. I had cut my hair, used to drink 40 pounder scotch and used fry 30-40 lbs of chicken on a single evening and he changed my life with love. For 15 years now I have not touched alcohol, meat and have a full beard and turban. He did this with love and under his affection I changed. I do 5 Japji sahib paths every day. I did full guru granth sahib path with my wife's assistance in 5 days. Basically we would keep taking shifts and do path all day. I am sorry that you have not met any real True Sants which are honored in Sukhamani sahib.. Even guru ji says Raam sant me pedh kich nahi... To talk bad about sants also is spoken in Sukhmani sahib.. sant ka dhoki adbich te tute.. so address your anger at Dhongis not at people who have spent life time doing naam simran and doing bhalaa for people. Go to Nathal pur pind and ask about Late Sant Ajit Singh ji.. and people will tell you his good deeds and brahamgyani avastahaa that people got to feel. He was a farmer Jatt sikh who worked hard with his hands but was always doing naam simran. This comes from number of lives naam simran and does not come from doing keertan or just doing amrit parchar and doing jakarai at Gurduwaras. Seek and ye shall find, if you really have a quest. Otherwise go on criticizing the True Brahamgyanis and Sants. Think about it when your kids are sick the first thing we do is start doing ardaas and benti's so the people who have spent life times or several life times doing naam simran have a much closer connection to Akal purakh and to learn a better way of life from them has no harm. You have to find the right person. Perhaps some day you will meet one. [/QUOTE]
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