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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Rupinder.Singh" data-source="post: 125163" data-attributes="member: 8006"><p>Thank you very much Gyani ji for raising such an intersting topic. Please dont be offended, I respect you very much and your thoughts.</p><p></p><p>But to start with, I would like to know when and where you got the title "Giyani Ji" and how is it different from title "Brahmgyani" <img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/omgg.jpg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":omgg:" title="Omgg :omgg:" data-shortname=":omgg:" /> Now, continuing on the topic, i would say NO Leader is a leader, without any followers, that means followers give birth to leaders </p><p></p><p>similarly</p><p></p><p>These sants, brahmgyani's Maha purkhs are mere Human beings, provided Blind faith followers dont follow them.</p><p></p><p>One man (brahmgyani, sant, mahapurkh in this case) being smart to fool around can be justified, but how can we justify millions of followers of these smart men, who accept to be fooled.</p><p></p><p>With the spread of internet, and other elctronic media, Sikh sangat is surely getting educated on thier own religion, and it surely can be termed as Jaagriti which is good for Sikh, Sikhi and Sikh way of life. But we should also be aware that anti-Gurmat elements also have same level of access to the media. This can only be balanced through competetive efforts by Gurmat elements so that we have positive outcome in the end.</p><p></p><p>We should never expect that these anti-Gurmat elements are gonna die out with time. In my opinion, it is God's way of maintaing the balance. If anti-gurmat is gone, we loose the challenge and thus new chances of learning from life experinces will also disappear. So anti-Gurmat is just as good as snake's poison is used to create antibodies to cure snake bite. Only diffrence is how we handle/use that poison.</p><p></p><p>The last point is about harmander sahib, Darbar sahib, and other names from different languages. My opinion is that a source of light spreads light, it should not really matter to us what name we give to it and in which language, if we can use that light to explore and discover new avenues it is serving the purpose or we can keep on fighting and waste time arguing my language is better than yours. Choice is ours.</p><p></p><p>Our Guru ji's used all kinds of languages to spread the divine word, and there are proofs of that in SGGS, so why are we fighting on names and languages? <img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/thinkingmunda.jpg" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thinkingmunda:" title="Thinkingmunda :thinkingmunda:" data-shortname=":thinkingmunda:" /></p><p></p><p>In the end I would say "When Faith becomes blind faith.. rituals are born"</p><p></p><p>Bhul Chuk Maaf ji</p><p></p><p>"Almighty leads pure ones, Victory belongs to Almighty" ikonkaar</p><p></p><p>Rupinder Singh </p><p></p><p>PS: ha ha ha I used smilies with full heart</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rupinder.Singh, post: 125163, member: 8006"] Thank you very much Gyani ji for raising such an intersting topic. Please dont be offended, I respect you very much and your thoughts. But to start with, I would like to know when and where you got the title "Giyani Ji" and how is it different from title "Brahmgyani" :omgg: Now, continuing on the topic, i would say NO Leader is a leader, without any followers, that means followers give birth to leaders similarly These sants, brahmgyani's Maha purkhs are mere Human beings, provided Blind faith followers dont follow them. One man (brahmgyani, sant, mahapurkh in this case) being smart to fool around can be justified, but how can we justify millions of followers of these smart men, who accept to be fooled. With the spread of internet, and other elctronic media, Sikh sangat is surely getting educated on thier own religion, and it surely can be termed as Jaagriti which is good for Sikh, Sikhi and Sikh way of life. But we should also be aware that anti-Gurmat elements also have same level of access to the media. This can only be balanced through competetive efforts by Gurmat elements so that we have positive outcome in the end. We should never expect that these anti-Gurmat elements are gonna die out with time. In my opinion, it is God's way of maintaing the balance. If anti-gurmat is gone, we loose the challenge and thus new chances of learning from life experinces will also disappear. So anti-Gurmat is just as good as snake's poison is used to create antibodies to cure snake bite. Only diffrence is how we handle/use that poison. The last point is about harmander sahib, Darbar sahib, and other names from different languages. My opinion is that a source of light spreads light, it should not really matter to us what name we give to it and in which language, if we can use that light to explore and discover new avenues it is serving the purpose or we can keep on fighting and waste time arguing my language is better than yours. Choice is ours. Our Guru ji's used all kinds of languages to spread the divine word, and there are proofs of that in SGGS, so why are we fighting on names and languages? :thinkingmunda: In the end I would say "When Faith becomes blind faith.. rituals are born" Bhul Chuk Maaf ji "Almighty leads pure ones, Victory belongs to Almighty" ikonkaar Rupinder Singh PS: ha ha ha I used smilies with full heart [/QUOTE]
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