hps62 said:dear Vijaydeep ji
Visited the site
nothing on it.
Dont get scared Sikhs will never embrace Islam.
If a few our girls run away . They were never worthy of being in our camp.
have self confidence .
this is no battle .
Other religions are not false brother.
Those religions were from God for there people at their time, since then interpolation has played on their holy scriptures.
(which were not for the whole of mankind or till the end of time. Unlike Islam.)
Sikhism wasn't a religion, it became one.
If you believed Sikhism was God's guidance, wouldn't you do the same? For who knows better than God Himself?
As a Muslim I trust other Muslims, "logical language trickery" doesn't enter my mind when reading his words. Any form of deception is a sin and not the way.
You're the one that has interpreted it that way not the writer.
Sikhism only exists due to The Almighty's will, so in a sense even Sikhism came from God. But is it the truth? That's the question.
Ignorant remark. Brother, don't play dice with your soul.
Use your akal (intellect), read the word of God and use your own reason to discern the truth from man-made falsehod.
Look around you, the moon, the sun, the stars, even your mind! and ask whats the purpose of all this, whats the truth?
Ask Him and if He Wills He will guide you to the truth.
Your vision is being blurred and filtered due to emotions such as "pride". (i'm speaking out of past experience)
Everyone is mentioned in the Quran, read it and decide your position because the one you're in now isn't the best thing, don't underestimate the magnitude of the situation. you're playing dice.
think about your sister or mother, do you want them to wear skimpy dresses? no!
so for a woman with something called modesty will cover herself up.
Good observation. Brother, theres no sense behind this comment...what are you talking about? save yourself.
No man can see past his own experiences unless there is a Divine Intervention.
Who else can guide man other than The Almighty.
with a purpose. that purpose is to praise God in the best way, in submission.
ISDhillon said:Khanda Daa Mukti :}--}:
(Salvation Through Khanda)
Aavaw khanda da bardush karaw
Come let’s exercise our double-edged swords
Zalam da rooh noo azaadi devaw
Free the trapped souls of the tyrants
Bani inna noo mittaa na lugai
Gurbani doesn’t seem sweet to them
Paar khanda da japee naal marai laalkarai
But they scream in ecstasy when embracing our double–edged swords
Anaak naal takhat see vakaundei
With pride they showed their strength
Takhat naa rehi baas tukre tukre
Strength vanished, now just dismembered remains
Atam noo millai phere ek mocka
Now we have given their souls another chance
Jummeh aw jeevan jis kaye gursikha
To be born in a life as a gursikh
Phere naa zalam da nazar takreh
Never again allow the glance of the tyrants
Sareer teh rooh khanda karoo bakreh
The double-edged sword again will separate the soul from its body
By Inderjit Singh Dhillon
are insulting to soooooo many people, billions (it’s bad enough to insult one person!).
I’m looking for facts and real thought provoking arguments from the Sikh community.
Other religions are not false because remaining elements of truth still exist in them
ISDhillon said:your whole post stank of the filthy self-righteous pride you seem to depise so strongly
This is absolutely unacceptable Mr. Dillon. Have some honour. It seems to me that a reply like that is not of a man who has Faith in God, you're too proud. It sounds to me you're a romantic nationalist and a hypocrite of your Faith, for if Sikhism truly preaches equality and fairness then this reply is not a good example of this.
God does not wrong people in any way; rather it is people who wrong themselves. Quran 10:44
no you are looking to guide the sikh community
not just the Sikh community but the whole of mankind, invitation to the Truth is the duty of every Muslm.
[36:5] This revelation is from the Almighty, Most Merciful.
[36:6] To warn people whose parents were never warned, and therefore, they are unaware.
[36:7] It has been predetermined that most of them do not believe.
[36:8] For we place around their necks shackles, up to their chins. Consequently, they become locked in their disbelief.
[36:9] And we place a barrier in front of them, and a barrier behind them, and thus, we veil them; they cannot see.
[36:10] It is the same whether you warn them or not, they cannot believe.
i guarantee you will learn nothing from us because you have to want to initially, what facts are you looking for address those facts and we will be pleased to answer,
You didn't answer ONE of my questions in my last post so how can i learn if you dont teach?
Do you agree with:
The Sikh religion is regarded by many scholars as a syncretic religious system which borrows heavily from Hinduism and Sufi mysticism. Other scholars treat it as a branch of Hinduism's bhakti mystical devotion, as an attempt to reform Hinduism or as an attempt to harmonize Hinduism and Islam which ended up becoming its own religious tradition. http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/sikh/blfaq_sikh_beliefs.htm
You stated that the sggs tells Muslims how they strayed from the straight path and how they should be Muslims, can you back this claim up?
What is the definition of truth in
Sikhism? What happens after death? Why are we here?
what is the concept of God in Sikhism?
try using your rhetoric
What do you mean by rhetoric?All my posts are in PLAIN ENGLISH. If you're moved by the words of the Quran then take it as a sign.
and you will be revoked harshly zero tolerance. you are no position to lay down ground rules.
You're not the type of person who should be representing Sikhism on this site, is this how the Guru would reply? i don't think so.
this is the same between all religions islam is no different
Islam is different because, Muahmmad (p.b.u.h) was the Final Messenger of God sent as a warner to mankind and the Quran was and is the final revelation from God. God Himself will protect the content of the Quran (which is ARABIC - any other language is not the Quran but a translation or interpretation.) The Quran has remained unchanged for over fourteen centuries, surely this is a sign of its authenticity for those of understanding.
Verily, We Ourselves have sent down this Exhortation, and most surely We will be its Guardian, (Al-Hijr, 15:10)
we love the oneness of god in islam and verily reject the rest.
what do you reject exactly?
does Sikhism believe all religions are true?
sikhism also appeared
How did Sikhism “appear”? Were there revelations from The Almighty guiding mankind to live as Sikhs? The same God that sent revelations to mankind before Sikhism?
i have this almighty discussion already read all of it then advise i know the ending though ego because i not only answered all the questions put forward they then banned me and continued to hold on to their denial and asked the exact same questions its very cheap to ask us sikhs to not be blinded by pride. Have a read then get back to me.
I read your statements and once again they lack any real evidence, you hardly ever back up your statements with religous sources. Why dont you bring those questions one by one to me? It's a shame to see so much pride on both sides, but i ask you to overlook the actions of people and stop associating them to the purity of Islam. I know that your pride and aggressive comments are yours alone and don't reflect the teachings of Sikhism, so i ask you to do the same for Islam and any other religion to have a clearer vision. I'm speaking to you as a human being, no colour, race or nationality, no pride in myself or my religion.
as for the rest someone else can respond.
why? My first post wasn't intended for you but you felt the necessity to answer for someone else. What are you protecting if you yourself dont know the answers? Faith shouldn't be blind.
The Quran has remained unchanged for over fourteen centuries, surely this is a sign of its authenticity for those of understanding.
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