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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
After Realization No Personal Identity Left Anymore
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<blockquote data-quote="Pyramid" data-source="post: 73602" data-attributes="member: 5728"><p>Before Realization of the TRUTH all say: 'THIS IS BUT A BODY AFTERALL'. Doesn't matter what one reads, what one writes, what one thinks- sense of 'I am body' stays, untill actual realization happens. So they think of others the same as well, without knowing their state of mind. They cant know the state of a Saintly Soul.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>After Realization of the Truth, no duality is left of any sense. Gurbani clearly states this truth over and over again. After knowing(experiencibg) the Truth, I dies completely. </p><p> </p><p>Today I am remembering words of Sant Singh Ji Maskeen: "If a person says 'he is a Sikh' and he also says that 'Guru is NOT God', take my word for it: he is not a Sikh, he is faking. Any body who bows his head infront of Guru Granth Sahib ji has to believe every word of Guru Ji, not just what suits his self-developed concepts."</p><p> </p><p><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/wah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wah:" title="Wah :wah:" data-shortname=":wah:" /></p><p> </p><p>ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ </p><p>ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||</p><p>One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:</p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਜਬ ਹਮ ਹੋਤੇ ਤਬ ਤੂ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਬ ਤੂਹੀ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ </p><p>jab ham hothae thab thoo naahee ab thoohee mai naahee ||</p><p>When I am in my ego, then You are not with me. Now that You are with me, there is no egotism within me.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਅਨਲ ਅਗਮ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਹਰਿ ਮਇ ਓਦਧਿ ਜਲ ਕੇਵਲ ਜਲ ਮਾਂਹੀ ॥੧॥ </p><p>anal agam jaisae lehar mae oudhadhh jal kaeval jal maanhee ||1||</p><p>The wind may raise up huge waves in the vast ocean, but they are just water in water. ||1||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਮਾਧਵੇ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਭ੍ਰਮੁ ਐਸਾ ॥ </p><p>maadhhavae kiaa keheeai bhram aisaa ||</p><p>O Lord, what can I say about such an illusion?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਜੈਸਾ ਮਾਨੀਐ ਹੋਇ ਨ ਤੈਸਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </p><p>jaisaa maaneeai hoe n thaisaa ||1|| rehaao ||</p><p>Things are not as they seem. ||1||Pause||</p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਨਰਪਤਿ ਏਕੁ ਸਿੰਘਾਸਨਿ ਸੋਇਆ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਭਇਆ ਭਿਖਾਰੀ ॥ </p><p>narapath eaek singhaasan soeiaa supanae bhaeiaa bhikhaaree ||</p><p>It is like the king, who falls asleep upon his throne, and dreams that he is a beggar.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਅਛਤ ਰਾਜ ਬਿਛੁਰਤ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੋ ਗਤਿ ਭਈ ਹਮਾਰੀ ॥੨॥ </p><p>ashhath raaj bishhurath dhukh paaeiaa so gath bhee hamaaree ||2||</p><p>His kingdom is intact, but separated from it, he suffers in sorrow. Such is my own condition. ||2||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਰਾਜ ਭੁਇਅੰਗ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਗ ਜੈਸੇ ਹਹਿ ਅਬ ਕਛੁ ਮਰਮੁ ਜਨਾਇਆ ॥ </p><p>raaj bhueiang prasang jaisae hehi ab kashh maram janaaeiaa ||</p><p>Like the story of the rope mistaken for a snake, the mystery has now been explained to me.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਅਨਿਕ ਕਟਕ ਜੈਸੇ ਭੂਲਿ ਪਰੇ ਅਬ ਕਹਤੇ ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਆਇਆ ॥੩॥ </p><p>anik kattak jaisae bhool parae ab kehathae kehan n aaeiaa ||3||</p><p>Like the many bracelets, which I mistakenly thought were gold; now, I do not say what I said then. ||3||</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ਸਰਬੇ ਏਕੁ ਅਨੇਕੈ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਸਭ ਘਟ ਭ+ਗਵੈ ਸੋਈ ॥ </p><p>sarabae eaek anaekai suaamee sabh ghatt bhuogavai soee ||</p><p>The One Lord is pervading the many forms; He enjoys Himself in all hearts.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਕਹਿ ਰਵਿਦਾਸ ਹਾਥ ਪੈ ਨੇਰੈ ਸਹਜੇ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਹੋਈ ॥੪॥੧॥ </p><p>kehi ravidhaas haathh pai naerai sehajae hoe s hoee ||4||1||</p><p>Says Ravi Daas, the Lord is nearer than our own hands and feet. Whatever will be, will be. ||4||1||</p><p><img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/wah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wah:" title="Wah :wah:" data-shortname=":wah:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Tuhada Das</p><p>Yograj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pyramid, post: 73602, member: 5728"] Before Realization of the TRUTH all say: 'THIS IS BUT A BODY AFTERALL'. Doesn't matter what one reads, what one writes, what one thinks- sense of 'I am body' stays, untill actual realization happens. So they think of others the same as well, without knowing their state of mind. They cant know the state of a Saintly Soul. After Realization of the Truth, no duality is left of any sense. Gurbani clearly states this truth over and over again. After knowing(experiencibg) the Truth, I dies completely. Today I am remembering words of Sant Singh Ji Maskeen: "If a person says 'he is a Sikh' and he also says that 'Guru is NOT God', take my word for it: he is not a Sikh, he is faking. Any body who bows his head infront of Guru Granth Sahib ji has to believe every word of Guru Ji, not just what suits his self-developed concepts." :wah: ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਜਬ ਹਮ ਹੋਤੇ ਤਬ ਤੂ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਬ ਤੂਹੀ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ jab ham hothae thab thoo naahee ab thoohee mai naahee || When I am in my ego, then You are not with me. Now that You are with me, there is no egotism within me. ਅਨਲ ਅਗਮ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਹਰਿ ਮਇ ਓਦਧਿ ਜਲ ਕੇਵਲ ਜਲ ਮਾਂਹੀ ॥੧॥ anal agam jaisae lehar mae oudhadhh jal kaeval jal maanhee ||1|| The wind may raise up huge waves in the vast ocean, but they are just water in water. ||1|| ਮਾਧਵੇ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਭ੍ਰਮੁ ਐਸਾ ॥ maadhhavae kiaa keheeai bhram aisaa || O Lord, what can I say about such an illusion? ਜੈਸਾ ਮਾਨੀਐ ਹੋਇ ਨ ਤੈਸਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ jaisaa maaneeai hoe n thaisaa ||1|| rehaao || Things are not as they seem. ||1||Pause|| ਨਰਪਤਿ ਏਕੁ ਸਿੰਘਾਸਨਿ ਸੋਇਆ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਭਇਆ ਭਿਖਾਰੀ ॥ narapath eaek singhaasan soeiaa supanae bhaeiaa bhikhaaree || It is like the king, who falls asleep upon his throne, and dreams that he is a beggar. ਅਛਤ ਰਾਜ ਬਿਛੁਰਤ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੋ ਗਤਿ ਭਈ ਹਮਾਰੀ ॥੨॥ ashhath raaj bishhurath dhukh paaeiaa so gath bhee hamaaree ||2|| His kingdom is intact, but separated from it, he suffers in sorrow. Such is my own condition. ||2|| ਰਾਜ ਭੁਇਅੰਗ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਗ ਜੈਸੇ ਹਹਿ ਅਬ ਕਛੁ ਮਰਮੁ ਜਨਾਇਆ ॥ raaj bhueiang prasang jaisae hehi ab kashh maram janaaeiaa || Like the story of the rope mistaken for a snake, the mystery has now been explained to me. ਅਨਿਕ ਕਟਕ ਜੈਸੇ ਭੂਲਿ ਪਰੇ ਅਬ ਕਹਤੇ ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਆਇਆ ॥੩॥ anik kattak jaisae bhool parae ab kehathae kehan n aaeiaa ||3|| Like the many bracelets, which I mistakenly thought were gold; now, I do not say what I said then. ||3|| ਸਰਬੇ ਏਕੁ ਅਨੇਕੈ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਸਭ ਘਟ ਭ+ਗਵੈ ਸੋਈ ॥ sarabae eaek anaekai suaamee sabh ghatt bhuogavai soee || The One Lord is pervading the many forms; He enjoys Himself in all hearts. ਕਹਿ ਰਵਿਦਾਸ ਹਾਥ ਪੈ ਨੇਰੈ ਸਹਜੇ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਹੋਈ ॥੪॥੧॥ kehi ravidhaas haathh pai naerai sehajae hoe s hoee ||4||1|| Says Ravi Daas, the Lord is nearer than our own hands and feet. Whatever will be, will be. ||4||1|| :wah: Tuhada Das Yograj [/QUOTE]
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