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Why Is The Law Of Karma Rejected?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 180410" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p>Confused ji thanks for your posts. I have enjoyed these at times while I may not have agreed with everything. I totally agree that we are much a slave of conditioning through our past actions and that our responses are so conditioned and rise and fall instantaneously all the time. I more fundamentally believe that any such conditioning is not linear a one life to one life mapping that goes on or continues in a series of life forms or incarnations. Our conditioning is a confluence of too much biological and much other of all around from ages ago to the moments just past. </p><p></p><p>An example of my conditioning in part is related to Guru Nanak Dev ji, genes of my parents, innumerable other interactions in multiple instances all the way from you and many that I may not even recollect, and so on. This just is not Karma but simple parameters in which humans act or respond based on their capabilities and limitations as life form.</p><p></p><p>Whereas you may believe in defining Karma as you do but it is understood by almost the whole universe quite differently. These is a dis-connection with what you have posted and what the thread starter has almost implied as though there does exist so called "LAW" without even at the minimum level defining what such a law stands for. It is just a sexy phrase in so called "Law of Karma".</p><p></p><p>What I strongly disagree with is your statements about the truth only as per Buddha and nothing else. This I fundamentally disagree with as you are espousing blind faith and no questioning and state that there is no need to actually understand this. This is fundamentally opposite of Sikhism which continues to teach a need to understand and acquiring understanding forever. Sikhism does teach that there is no way to know all and does not to claim monopoly on such knowledge. Sikhism simply states such knowledge to be infinite while being specific and true. However if you project Buddhism and Buddha to have put it into a box, then fundamentally I just cannot accept that as I find this simply impossible.</p><p></p><p>You are a big man in mind and I respect your unique style of articulating specifically and writing with clarity. However, you have shown your failings here at spn as much as any one else here. In that sense you or others are not superior versus others but simply different.</p><p></p><p>I always wish you well whether those wishes you believe have a meaning or not. In my limited faculties that is all I can offer.</p><p></p><p>Regards and wishing you to interact as you choose, when and where and as often. <img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/munda_hug.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mundahug:" title="Munda Hug :mundahug:" data-shortname=":mundahug:" /></p><p></p><p><strong>PS: </strong>Confused ji I regret that I have not as actively responded to your posts. I find that the longer posts that have resulted from interactions in this thread to be too convoluted and me not having the energy to contribute to further escalation in the lengths of replies in such posts. For me genius is in brevity and any fool like me can make it much longer. At times I take note of this in my writing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 180410, member: 14194"] Confused ji thanks for your posts. I have enjoyed these at times while I may not have agreed with everything. I totally agree that we are much a slave of conditioning through our past actions and that our responses are so conditioned and rise and fall instantaneously all the time. I more fundamentally believe that any such conditioning is not linear a one life to one life mapping that goes on or continues in a series of life forms or incarnations. Our conditioning is a confluence of too much biological and much other of all around from ages ago to the moments just past. An example of my conditioning in part is related to Guru Nanak Dev ji, genes of my parents, innumerable other interactions in multiple instances all the way from you and many that I may not even recollect, and so on. This just is not Karma but simple parameters in which humans act or respond based on their capabilities and limitations as life form. Whereas you may believe in defining Karma as you do but it is understood by almost the whole universe quite differently. These is a dis-connection with what you have posted and what the thread starter has almost implied as though there does exist so called "LAW" without even at the minimum level defining what such a law stands for. It is just a sexy phrase in so called "Law of Karma". What I strongly disagree with is your statements about the truth only as per Buddha and nothing else. This I fundamentally disagree with as you are espousing blind faith and no questioning and state that there is no need to actually understand this. This is fundamentally opposite of Sikhism which continues to teach a need to understand and acquiring understanding forever. Sikhism does teach that there is no way to know all and does not to claim monopoly on such knowledge. Sikhism simply states such knowledge to be infinite while being specific and true. However if you project Buddhism and Buddha to have put it into a box, then fundamentally I just cannot accept that as I find this simply impossible. You are a big man in mind and I respect your unique style of articulating specifically and writing with clarity. However, you have shown your failings here at spn as much as any one else here. In that sense you or others are not superior versus others but simply different. I always wish you well whether those wishes you believe have a meaning or not. In my limited faculties that is all I can offer. Regards and wishing you to interact as you choose, when and where and as often. :mundahug: [B]PS: [/B]Confused ji I regret that I have not as actively responded to your posts. I find that the longer posts that have resulted from interactions in this thread to be too convoluted and me not having the energy to contribute to further escalation in the lengths of replies in such posts. For me genius is in brevity and any fool like me can make it much longer. At times I take note of this in my writing. [/QUOTE]
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