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Gurbani (14-53)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
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Ashtpadi (129-130)
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Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
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Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
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Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
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Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
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Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
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Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
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<blockquote data-quote="thecoopes" data-source="post: 10014" data-attributes="member: 844"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">Why are we here? A question as old as written history every generation appears to have asked the same question. Great philosophers have pondered it but still we ask it!</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">Does that not show us that the answers we are getting back either don’t ring true or lack substance and appear a bit flaky?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">What do we actually know? Well assuming that this physical substance around us we call creation is actually a reality and not some sophisticated God generated CGI, O dear we start with an assumption but lets press on.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">1.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">A material universe of proportions that we cannot even come to grasp. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">No one knows if the universe is infinitely large, or even if ours is the only universe there is.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Although our view of the universe is limited, our imaginations are not. Astronomers have indirect evidence that the universe of galaxies extends far beyond the region we can see. But no one knows if the whole universe is infinitely large - large beyond limit. Light detected from the furthest reaches of space is believed to have been travelling for 14 Billion years!!!!!!!</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">2.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Our earth upon which we live is said to be 4,5 billion years old.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">3.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Life starting upon it is believed to be 3,5 billion years ago.(Microbes etc)</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">4.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Man is a new comer just 6,5 million years with actual tangible historical evidence that of buildings etc being only a few thousand years old.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">5.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So what’s the big deal with, “why are we here?” The universe has got on just fine without us, if the entire solar system were to burn out right now then hardly a ripple would radiate across the timeless reaches of space!</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">6.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why is such a disproportionately large universe been in existence for such a length of time without man?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">7.</span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I leave this for you to think about! </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000000">Time and space are meaningless are we actually here?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">8.</span></span> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Given that the past no longer exists and the future does not exist, but only the present exists then what is this present and how big is it?</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">For an example when we see a second hand moving around the face of a clock we would say everything behind the hand is the past and has ceased to exist while everything in front of the hand is the future and therefore has not come into existence.</span></span></span></span><span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">So is the present one-second? No it can’t be because we can divide time into smaller sections so that if time were measured in nanoseconds (</span></span><span style="color: #003399">0.000 000 001 seconds) </span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">the principle would still be the same, everything behind is the past while everything in front is the future, so the actual piece that is the present is finite or as near to nothing as is possible so then do we really exist?</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Bets wishes </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">John</span></span></span><span style="color: black"></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecoopes, post: 10014, member: 844"] [font=Arial][size=3][color=#000000]Why are we here? A question as old as written history every generation appears to have asked the same question. Great philosophers have pondered it but still we ask it![/color][/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3][color=#000000]Does that not show us that the answers we are getting back either don’t ring true or lack substance and appear a bit flaky?[/color][/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3][color=#000000]What do we actually know? Well assuming that this physical substance around us we call creation is actually a reality and not some sophisticated God generated CGI, O dear we start with an assumption but lets press on.[/color][/size][/font] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]1.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]A material universe of proportions that we cannot even come to grasp. [/size][/font][/color] [size=3][color=#000000][font=Arial]No one knows if the universe is infinitely large, or even if ours is the only universe there is.[/font][/color][/size] [size=3][color=#000000][font=Arial]Although our view of the universe is limited, our imaginations are not. Astronomers have indirect evidence that the universe of galaxies extends far beyond the region we can see. But no one knows if the whole universe is infinitely large - large beyond limit. Light detected from the furthest reaches of space is believed to have been travelling for 14 Billion years!!!!!!![/font][/color][/size] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]2.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]Our earth upon which we live is said to be 4,5 billion years old.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]3.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]Life starting upon it is believed to be 3,5 billion years ago.(Microbes etc)[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]4.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]Man is a new comer just 6,5 million years with actual tangible historical evidence that of buildings etc being only a few thousand years old.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]5.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]So what’s the big deal with, “why are we here?” The universe has got on just fine without us, if the entire solar system were to burn out right now then hardly a ripple would radiate across the timeless reaches of space![/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]6.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]Why is such a disproportionately large universe been in existence for such a length of time without man?[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]7.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=3]I leave this for you to think about! [/size][/font][/color] [font=Arial][size=3][color=#000000]Time and space are meaningless are we actually here?[/color][/size][/font] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=3]8.[/size][/font] [color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial][size=3]Given that the past no longer exists and the future does not exist, but only the present exists then what is this present and how big is it?[/size][/font][/font][/color][/color] [color=black] [/color][color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial][size=3]For an example when we see a second hand moving around the face of a clock we would say everything behind the hand is the past and has ceased to exist while everything in front of the hand is the future and therefore has not come into existence.[/size][/font][/font][/color][color=black] [/color][font=Arial][size=3][color=black][font=Arial]So is the present one-second? No it can’t be because we can divide time into smaller sections so that if time were measured in nanoseconds ([/font][/color][color=#003399]0.000 000 001 seconds) [/color][color=black][font=Arial]the principle would still be the same, everything behind is the past while everything in front is the future, so the actual piece that is the present is finite or as near to nothing as is possible so then do we really exist?[/font][/color][/size][/font] [color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial][/font][/font][/color] [color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial]Bets wishes [/font][/font][/color] [color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial][/font][/font][/color] [color=black][font=Arial][font=Arial]John[/font][/font][/color][color=black] [/color] [/QUOTE]
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