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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="thecoopes" data-source="post: 5328" data-attributes="member: 844"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear friends wasn’t it Marx that said religion is the opium of the people. If you want to control large numbers of people then you need a powerful mind control tool, freedom to think and reason is surrendered to others usually a higher echelon like political leaders in the case of communism or to priests or imams in the case of religious control. The need to make a decision based on a moral dilemma is decided upon by these whom we allow to set our values and interpret what God wants us to do. Therefore any act of repugnant barbarism can be carried out in the name of our religious belief because we don’t have to think as we have handed our minds over to another. Ergo I can kill you because my religion views you as an infidel.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So discussion boards like this are the enemies of mind control and allow us to question the logic of our beliefs on a broad plane.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I would say to our Muslim friend that first we are all humans and for any religious group to claim that God is their personal possession and that their religious leaders are the sole custodians of Gods truths is laughable. (We are insignificant little nothings in a vast universe <span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Our Milky Way galaxy of stars is so huge that even at the speed of light it would take 100,000 years to travel across it!) </span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">More blood has been shed throughout the centuries over narrow minded elitism in religious beliefs than in any other single cause.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So any group that makes this claim is deluding themselves as this religious indoctrination is common to the main religions of the world, so just shouting the loudest that yours is the truth means diddle squat.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">If it is possible for man to have a relationship with his creator then it must be on a personal level with each one being responsible before God for his actions. I firmly believe that each of us will be judged by what we did in respect to all our fellow man and simply saying to this creator that I did what my priest or Imam told me was right will be no defence. No more than the Nazi’s at Nuremburg were let off because they said they were only following orders! </span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">So think for yourself discuss with others and be prepared to hear things we may not like but our hearts know has the ring of truth. </span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">A nice thought from Islam Salaamulaikum, for this to be wished upon our fellow humans means we need to be carriers of peace.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">John C</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thecoopes, post: 5328, member: 844"] [font=Arial][size=3]Dear friends wasn’t it Marx that said religion is the opium of the people. If you want to control large numbers of people then you need a powerful mind control tool, freedom to think and reason is surrendered to others usually a higher echelon like political leaders in the case of communism or to priests or imams in the case of religious control. The need to make a decision based on a moral dilemma is decided upon by these whom we allow to set our values and interpret what God wants us to do. Therefore any act of repugnant barbarism can be carried out in the name of our religious belief because we don’t have to think as we have handed our minds over to another. Ergo I can kill you because my religion views you as an infidel.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [font=Arial][size=3]So discussion boards like this are the enemies of mind control and allow us to question the logic of our beliefs on a broad plane.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]I would say to our Muslim friend that first we are all humans and for any religious group to claim that God is their personal possession and that their religious leaders are the sole custodians of Gods truths is laughable. (We are insignificant little nothings in a vast universe [font=Arial]Our Milky Way galaxy of stars is so huge that even at the speed of light it would take 100,000 years to travel across it!) [/font][/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [font=Arial][size=3]More blood has been shed throughout the centuries over narrow minded elitism in religious beliefs than in any other single cause.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [font=Arial][size=3]So any group that makes this claim is deluding themselves as this religious indoctrination is common to the main religions of the world, so just shouting the loudest that yours is the truth means diddle squat.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]If it is possible for man to have a relationship with his creator then it must be on a personal level with each one being responsible before God for his actions. I firmly believe that each of us will be judged by what we did in respect to all our fellow man and simply saying to this creator that I did what my priest or Imam told me was right will be no defence. No more than the Nazi’s at Nuremburg were let off because they said they were only following orders! [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial]So think for yourself discuss with others and be prepared to hear things we may not like but our hearts know has the ring of truth. [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [font=Arial][size=3]A nice thought from Islam Salaamulaikum, for this to be wished upon our fellow humans means we need to be carriers of peace.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [font=Arial]John C[/font] [/QUOTE]
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