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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Ishna" data-source="post: 202679" data-attributes="member: 2709"><p>*HUGS Seeker2013*</p><p></p><p>My heart goes out to you, bhaji. Know that you are definitely not alone with your problem. There are plenty of other gay men and women in India facing the same problem and isolation, so try to take some comfort in knowing that you are part of a community, even though it is underground.</p><p></p><p>The main thing is to respect, love and value yourself for who you are. You are not being punished for 'past life sins' - being gay is not a punishment! By believing that it is, you are actually perpetuating the negative stance that your government and society has. You are yourself, and as long as you're not hurting people, you can accept yourself and indeed should take pride in being who you are. The fact that you know you're gay, talk about it openly here and acknowledge it in yourself is a huge positive to your character. A lesser man would have buried that part of himself and live his whole life trying to deny it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Social change is never easy, whether it is tackling discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexual orientation. The only way these matters get resolved, is by people taking a stand. I know this would be difficult in India where homosexuality is currently illegal, but there are groups mobilizing to tackle it.</p><p></p><p>Have you tried making quiet contact with any of the LBGTQ organisations in India?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.humsafar.org/" target="_blank">http://www.humsafar.org/</a> - Where your identity is a reason for pride, not a reason to hide</p><p><a href="https://go.allout.org/en/a/india/" target="_blank">https://go.allout.org/en/a/india/</a> - A petition against the governments decision to make it illegal to be gay. Have you signed it?</p><p><a href="http://indiandost.com/login.php" target="_blank">http://indiandost.com/login.php</a> - A contact group. Maybe you can make some friends who share your interests.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_India" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_India</a> - For some general knowledge.</p><p><a href="http://www.quora.com/Whats-it-like-to-be-gay-in-India" target="_blank">http://www.quora.com/Whats-it-like-to-be-gay-in-India</a> - You can read about some other people's experiences, this might help you get a sense of community.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps a little bit to soothe some of the isolation you're feeling, mate.</p><p></p><p>Although I don't recommend it, you could look into conversion (reparative) therapy <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy</a> , but it's hugely criticised, and is the lesser option, in my opinion. Better to be a Sikh about it and champion the rights of a community under tyranny, to help yourself and others (the therapy is only for yourself, and others in your situation will continue to suffer).</p><p></p><p>With regards to faith and god... well... Ik Onkar is the creator of mind-blowing diversity. Gurbani is silent on sexual orientation because it just isn't an issue. The main thing to be concerned about is your own connection to Naam, and the welfare of others, doing good deeds. Rather than conforming to societies negative attitude, it would be better to fight for the rights of a persecuted minority, improving life for everyone, including yourself.</p><p></p><p>In that struggle, faith is about developing strength within you. Akaal Purakh is the ocean of peace, is shelter, is sublime reality. You can find relief and strength by connecting with that. Gurbani encourages us to pray for Naam, not for any other changes in our world. For that, our actions are the prayer, and the outcomes are the answers to our prayer.</p><p></p><p>*HUGS again*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishna, post: 202679, member: 2709"] *HUGS Seeker2013* My heart goes out to you, bhaji. Know that you are definitely not alone with your problem. There are plenty of other gay men and women in India facing the same problem and isolation, so try to take some comfort in knowing that you are part of a community, even though it is underground. The main thing is to respect, love and value yourself for who you are. You are not being punished for 'past life sins' - being gay is not a punishment! By believing that it is, you are actually perpetuating the negative stance that your government and society has. You are yourself, and as long as you're not hurting people, you can accept yourself and indeed should take pride in being who you are. The fact that you know you're gay, talk about it openly here and acknowledge it in yourself is a huge positive to your character. A lesser man would have buried that part of himself and live his whole life trying to deny it. :( Social change is never easy, whether it is tackling discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexual orientation. The only way these matters get resolved, is by people taking a stand. I know this would be difficult in India where homosexuality is currently illegal, but there are groups mobilizing to tackle it. Have you tried making quiet contact with any of the LBGTQ organisations in India? [URL]http://www.humsafar.org/[/URL] - Where your identity is a reason for pride, not a reason to hide [URL]https://go.allout.org/en/a/india/[/URL] - A petition against the governments decision to make it illegal to be gay. Have you signed it? [URL]http://indiandost.com/login.php[/URL] - A contact group. Maybe you can make some friends who share your interests. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_India[/URL] - For some general knowledge. [URL]http://www.quora.com/Whats-it-like-to-be-gay-in-India[/URL] - You can read about some other people's experiences, this might help you get a sense of community. I hope this helps a little bit to soothe some of the isolation you're feeling, mate. Although I don't recommend it, you could look into conversion (reparative) therapy [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy[/URL] , but it's hugely criticised, and is the lesser option, in my opinion. Better to be a Sikh about it and champion the rights of a community under tyranny, to help yourself and others (the therapy is only for yourself, and others in your situation will continue to suffer). With regards to faith and god... well... Ik Onkar is the creator of mind-blowing diversity. Gurbani is silent on sexual orientation because it just isn't an issue. The main thing to be concerned about is your own connection to Naam, and the welfare of others, doing good deeds. Rather than conforming to societies negative attitude, it would be better to fight for the rights of a persecuted minority, improving life for everyone, including yourself. In that struggle, faith is about developing strength within you. Akaal Purakh is the ocean of peace, is shelter, is sublime reality. You can find relief and strength by connecting with that. Gurbani encourages us to pray for Naam, not for any other changes in our world. For that, our actions are the prayer, and the outcomes are the answers to our prayer. *HUGS again* [/QUOTE]
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