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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Parma" data-source="post: 162890" data-attributes="member: 4724"><p>As you go through life you come across many people, some have strong opinions, some have no opinions, just like on this forum in fact!</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">A point to you. If they have no opinions on this forum by your understanding? Why are you posting a question on here?</span></p><p></p><p>Is it right to have no opinion? Is it right to believe in everything, to accept everything as a possibility? In my view those that commit to nothing, that always have an open mind, that embrace every possibility are in fact, nothing..</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">I have read somewhere before the catholic faiths concept of god is it views god as a nothingness, that exsits everywhere, is that not a faith, a view, a religion? Many other faiths do as well, so are you rubbishing many faiths? Bringing your self down to the point of nothing is in fact one humble approach, but then it is to become one with that nothing that becomes apart of everything where the true enlightenment takes place. They are contradictions I know but the truth is the whole human life is a condradiction. You are born to live, yet you die.</span><span style="color: red"> Only when the condradictions make sense do you realise without god it is all non-sense, it is a point of sanity a point of sobriety, were the mind elevates from the condradictions to the truth. Nothing is everything! You are a point of life, and life is the pendulum, the rights and wrongs you either swing this way or that way the point is to stay centred. In becoming that centred individual you are learning of who you are. Very psychological but very practical as well. The greatest discovery any man can make in their whole life. When that is found and you realise you are a concept no greater or lesser than anything else then hopefully you find happiness. The point that I hope every life will strive for constant peace </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Who are they? What do they stand for? what do they believe in? the answer is of course, everything, and nothing. </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">Who are you? What do you stand for? You are not a perfect person if I were to say you stand for the truth, the truth is you will lie so their in all is another condradiction. Once you overcome the contradictions then you can establish yourself which is a human. Just the same as every other human in the world what makes you better or the person to sit on the seat of judgment. Same applies to religion as that is based on humanity, so it can only be based on human thinking</span></p><p></p><p>I have given much thought to those of multi faith, those that believe in all gods, in all paths, and I have come to the conclusion that although they may believe in everything, what in fact they believe in, is nothing. </p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">Good they are on the approach to enlightenment. God exsists in everything.</span></p><p></p><p>Ask such a person any question, and you will get both sides of the argument, although this is helpful in accepting anothers point of view, it also means there is no conviction, no commitment,</p><p><span style="color: red">Commitment does not come from conviction. It comes from an understanding expand your thoughts and there you will find your commitment</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>We all have to believe in something, We all have to get off the fence and stand up and say, this is what defines me, this is who I am, sure it may change in time, sure we may even be wrong, but the journey to the truth, in my view, is not accepting everything in the hope that somewhere in there is the truth, but isolating and marking out the truth, and then embracing that, and that alone. Yes, it is a lot harder than a blanket acceptance, but I would rather be something than nothing, even if that something was wrong.<!-- google_ad_section_end --> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Certain things will effect all individaully this point is too in-depth as you are trying to define a person. Ask most people and I think alot of people at the age of 80 yrs are still searching for that centre self yet. It is like me saying your a bad man then you go and do a good deed, so define yourself their and then are you good or are you bad? A lot of people go through life without feeling complete psychologically or physically its just a process of life as we are sikh learning until you find that centre and become khalsa, pure can not be defined but a peaceful individual in all situations of life.</span><span style="color: #ff0000"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 12px">Even when defending one’s self with the kirpan, you should be still at peace not fighting for hate, anger lust, and greed but for definite peace. </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 12px">Like Bruce Lee said e</span><span style="font-size: 12px">ven in the midst of</span><span style="font-size: 12px"> a fight I do not think about the winning or losing I let nature take its course, think of the moment in hand that centre that peace.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Parma, post: 162890, member: 4724"] As you go through life you come across many people, some have strong opinions, some have no opinions, just like on this forum in fact! [COLOR=red]A point to you. If they have no opinions on this forum by your understanding? Why are you posting a question on here?[/COLOR] Is it right to have no opinion? Is it right to believe in everything, to accept everything as a possibility? In my view those that commit to nothing, that always have an open mind, that embrace every possibility are in fact, nothing.. [COLOR=red]I have read somewhere before the catholic faiths concept of god is it views god as a nothingness, that exsits everywhere, is that not a faith, a view, a religion? Many other faiths do as well, so are you rubbishing many faiths? Bringing your self down to the point of nothing is in fact one humble approach, but then it is to become one with that nothing that becomes apart of everything where the true enlightenment takes place. They are contradictions I know but the truth is the whole human life is a condradiction. You are born to live, yet you die.[/COLOR][COLOR=red] Only when the condradictions make sense do you realise without god it is all non-sense, it is a point of sanity a point of sobriety, were the mind elevates from the condradictions to the truth. Nothing is everything! You are a point of life, and life is the pendulum, the rights and wrongs you either swing this way or that way the point is to stay centred. In becoming that centred individual you are learning of who you are. Very psychological but very practical as well. The greatest discovery any man can make in their whole life. When that is found and you realise you are a concept no greater or lesser than anything else then hopefully you find happiness. The point that I hope every life will strive for constant peace [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] Who are they? What do they stand for? what do they believe in? the answer is of course, everything, and nothing. [COLOR=red]Who are you? What do you stand for? You are not a perfect person if I were to say you stand for the truth, the truth is you will lie so their in all is another condradiction. Once you overcome the contradictions then you can establish yourself which is a human. Just the same as every other human in the world what makes you better or the person to sit on the seat of judgment. Same applies to religion as that is based on humanity, so it can only be based on human thinking[/COLOR] I have given much thought to those of multi faith, those that believe in all gods, in all paths, and I have come to the conclusion that although they may believe in everything, what in fact they believe in, is nothing. [COLOR=red]Good they are on the approach to enlightenment. God exsists in everything.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] Ask such a person any question, and you will get both sides of the argument, although this is helpful in accepting anothers point of view, it also means there is no conviction, no commitment, [COLOR=red]Commitment does not come from conviction. It comes from an understanding expand your thoughts and there you will find your commitment[/COLOR] [COLOR=red][/COLOR] We all have to believe in something, We all have to get off the fence and stand up and say, this is what defines me, this is who I am, sure it may change in time, sure we may even be wrong, but the journey to the truth, in my view, is not accepting everything in the hope that somewhere in there is the truth, but isolating and marking out the truth, and then embracing that, and that alone. Yes, it is a lot harder than a blanket acceptance, but I would rather be something than nothing, even if that something was wrong.<!-- google_ad_section_end --> [COLOR=#ff0000]Certain things will effect all individaully this point is too in-depth as you are trying to define a person. Ask most people and I think alot of people at the age of 80 yrs are still searching for that centre self yet. It is like me saying your a bad man then you go and do a good deed, so define yourself their and then are you good or are you bad? A lot of people go through life without feeling complete psychologically or physically its just a process of life as we are sikh learning until you find that centre and become khalsa, pure can not be defined but a peaceful individual in all situations of life.[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000] [FONT=Calibri][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]Even when defending one’s self with the kirpan, you should be still at peace not fighting for hate, anger lust, and greed but for definite peace. [/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Like Bruce Lee said e[/SIZE][SIZE=3]ven in the midst of[/SIZE][SIZE=3] a fight I do not think about the winning or losing I let nature take its course, think of the moment in hand that centre that peace.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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