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<blockquote data-quote="Mai Harinder Kaur" data-source="post: 138333" data-attributes="member: 3558"><p>First, this thread is mistitled. There is no such thing as un-natural growth of hair anywhere on the human body unless you're using Rogaine or some such. I doubt that many women rub or spray Rogaine on their faces.</p><p></p><p>Next. Love to all. kaurhug</p><p></p><p>What I say next is my personal opinion. Just my opinion. I speak for no one but myself. There are two sorts of Sikhs: </p><p></p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those who are Amritdhari or working toward accepting Amrit or long to receive Amrit but can't for one reason or another and those who aren't sure but feel they will have some interest in Amrit in the future.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those who have little or no interest in Amrit.</li> </ol><p>Those in the second group I have little to say to. I have never understood the point of being Sikh if there is no interest in Amrit.</p><p></p><p>The second group, I can talk to. Again, this is my opinion only. Every hair on the bottom is to be left as it is after Amrit. (There might be a medical exception for necessary hair removal for surgery.) I always suggest that anyone contemplating Amrit to live as a Khalsa for a few months first. It can do no harm and might do a world of good. The reaction might be anything from "Waheguru! I've been looking for this all my life!" to "Nope. This isn't for me yet."</p><p></p><p>I have a few stray hairs growing on my chin and a light dusting above my upper lip. I was mercilessly teased in high school about my hairy legs and underarm jungle. I understood even then that this thing of hair removal fetish is simply social vanity and a search for social acceptance. The Amritdhari Sikh - ideally - has no use for either of these. We ARE different and proud of the difference. Few of us, however, are ideal and remarks and looks can cut deep. Each of us needs to decide whether the privilege of being an Amritdhari Sikh is worth it or not. Standing against the social norms is a painful and strengthening experience. I am sure that Guru Gobind Singh understood this perfectly well when he mandated that Khalsa have unshorn hair.</p><p></p><p>You might notice that I refrain from using the word "Khalsa." We receive the title of Khalsa with the Amrit; the reality is that becoming Khalsa (pure) is a long drawnout process. I usually refer to myself as an aspiring Khalsa. I'm just not there yet.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I believe it was Yogi Bhajan Singh of the 3HOs that came up with the idea that facial hairs on women was a deformity and should be removed. IMO, that says more about the Yogi's taste in women than it does about kes in Sikhi.</p><p></p><p>Now to the topic of dogma. I would say, yes, there is a dogma, something one must believe to be a Sikh. That would be the Mool Mantra. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ</span> ॥</p><p></p><p>There are so many translations, none even slightly adequate! Here is the translation from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mul_Mantar" target="_blank">Wikipedia: </a> "one God, truth by name, the creator, without fear, without hatred, timeless in form, beyond birth, self existent, (known by) the grace of the Guru." It's as good as any. The paragraph on translation is really good, so I include it here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is my opinion. Take it or leave it. please leave me in peace. peacesignkaur</p><p></p><p>So much more to say, but that's enough for now, I think.gingerteakaur</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mai Harinder Kaur, post: 138333, member: 3558"] First, this thread is mistitled. There is no such thing as un-natural growth of hair anywhere on the human body unless you're using Rogaine or some such. I doubt that many women rub or spray Rogaine on their faces. Next. Love to all. kaurhug What I say next is my personal opinion. Just my opinion. I speak for no one but myself. There are two sorts of Sikhs: [LIST=1] [*]Those who are Amritdhari or working toward accepting Amrit or long to receive Amrit but can't for one reason or another and those who aren't sure but feel they will have some interest in Amrit in the future. [*]Those who have little or no interest in Amrit. [/LIST] Those in the second group I have little to say to. I have never understood the point of being Sikh if there is no interest in Amrit. The second group, I can talk to. Again, this is my opinion only. Every hair on the bottom is to be left as it is after Amrit. (There might be a medical exception for necessary hair removal for surgery.) I always suggest that anyone contemplating Amrit to live as a Khalsa for a few months first. It can do no harm and might do a world of good. The reaction might be anything from "Waheguru! I've been looking for this all my life!" to "Nope. This isn't for me yet." I have a few stray hairs growing on my chin and a light dusting above my upper lip. I was mercilessly teased in high school about my hairy legs and underarm jungle. I understood even then that this thing of hair removal fetish is simply social vanity and a search for social acceptance. The Amritdhari Sikh - ideally - has no use for either of these. We ARE different and proud of the difference. Few of us, however, are ideal and remarks and looks can cut deep. Each of us needs to decide whether the privilege of being an Amritdhari Sikh is worth it or not. Standing against the social norms is a painful and strengthening experience. I am sure that Guru Gobind Singh understood this perfectly well when he mandated that Khalsa have unshorn hair. You might notice that I refrain from using the word "Khalsa." We receive the title of Khalsa with the Amrit; the reality is that becoming Khalsa (pure) is a long drawnout process. I usually refer to myself as an aspiring Khalsa. I'm just not there yet. BTW, I believe it was Yogi Bhajan Singh of the 3HOs that came up with the idea that facial hairs on women was a deformity and should be removed. IMO, that says more about the Yogi's taste in women than it does about kes in Sikhi. Now to the topic of dogma. I would say, yes, there is a dogma, something one must believe to be a Sikh. That would be the Mool Mantra. [SIZE=3]ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ[/SIZE] ॥ There are so many translations, none even slightly adequate! Here is the translation from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mul_Mantar"]Wikipedia: [/url] "one God, truth by name, the creator, without fear, without hatred, timeless in form, beyond birth, self existent, (known by) the grace of the Guru." It's as good as any. The paragraph on translation is really good, so I include it here: Again, this is my opinion. Take it or leave it. please leave me in peace. peacesignkaur So much more to say, but that's enough for now, I think.gingerteakaur [/QUOTE]
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