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What Is The Role Of Sants In The Khalsa Panth?
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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 82092" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੂਖੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਇਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੋਗੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਇਆ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: teal"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">दूखु गइआ सभु रोगु गइआ ॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Pain is gone, and all illness is gone.</span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AD" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪ੍ਰਭ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਗਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਨੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%96" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਰਖ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਗੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਇਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">प्रभ की आगिआ मन महि मानी महा पुरख का संगु भइआ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I have accepted the Will of God in my mind, associating with the Great Person, the Guru. ||1||Pause||</span></span> </p><p></p><p></p><p>While doing some research on 'Saint' I have come across the above lines and shall be grateful if some light is thrown on the line that is colored in Blue. The literal translation or the literal meaning may not be acceptable as per <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Sikh</a> philosophy. I submit this for the kind guidance of the learned members.</p><p> ( Quote Sikh 80 ji)</p><p> <strong> Sikh 80 ji,</strong></p><p> <strong>Your comments” literal translation may not be acceptable as per Sikh Phylosophy” Why not? In Gurbani, there is a definition of Sant/ Sadh, why it should be unacceptable to Sikh philosophy?</strong></p><p> <strong>Above two Guru Vaakas, are together in conveying a meaning, pain and illness also needed to be explained. Pain we endure due to our actions ( current or past), illness is not only related with any physical disease, being inflicted with Maya is also illness, so When Great person, Guru is met, wall of falsehood loaded with illusions is shattered. What result it brings then? His Ordinance is understood ( Hukm Rajaaee chalna Nanak likhya naal), this very Ordinance becomes sweet and obeying it generates happiness; pain, sorrow and all Maya disease are gone because conflicts are gone, Duality ceases to exist. Take another example, He is pious Water, our souls are filthy water, when filth is cleaned, soul water mixed with pious Water. </strong></p><p> <strong>NOW LOOK AT GURBANI DEFINITION OF SANT/SADH</strong></p><p> <strong>[/FONT]</strong> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਲੋਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਃ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਸਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਿਰਾਸਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਸਰੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮਾਂ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਤੁ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੇਈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੂਰਨੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਤੁ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> (GGS 319)</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Slok 5th Guru.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Who with every breath and morsel of theirs, forget not God's Name and within whose mind is this spell,</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">they alone are the blessed and they alone are the perfect saints, O Nanak.</span></span> (Tr by Manmohan singh) </p><p> </p><p> <strong><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">Sant</span></span></u></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">= <u> Because of being imbued always with Lord’s love as interpreted by Guru ji,so he/she conquers vices, stays above depravity, iniquity, wickedness and corruption, revenge, jealousy, beguiling habits, quagmire of ego- iceberg etc and always remain only imbued with love of Parbrahm.( Bhai Veer Singh “SGGSKP-95)</u></span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Here is Sadh described by well known and virtuous Bhai Veer Singh and Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha</strong></p><p> <strong>Sadh</strong>= <strong>Lover of Akaalpurakh (Bhia Veer Singh Sri Guru Granth Sahib Kosh )</strong></p><p> <strong>Sadh= Virtuous, devoted to well being for others, Holy man, pious,( Bhai Kahan Singh –Mahan Kosh p-101</strong></p><p> <strong><u><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨੁ ਅ</span></span><span style="color: #AB5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਧੁ</span></span> </u></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><strong><u>ਸਾਧੈ ਜਨੁ ਕੋਇ</u></strong> </span></span><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">The mind is uncontrollable; rare are those who subdue it, keep in control.</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> (GGS 159) So Sadh is him/her who has kept mind in control literally from all kind of vices and negative primal forces.</span></span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਛਾਇਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੂਪੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਧੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਜਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਾਦੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਬਾਦੁ</span> </a> </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">(1376)( Kabir Ji)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black">There can be no more better explanation than the definition of Sant/Sadh given in Gurbani, problem rises when context of Sadh or Sant is not understood in different contexts, </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: black"></span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">or sticking with one meaning in all different contexts. Just understanding vast application is necessary to get out of confusion about a single word. Guru ji also states the ones who realize HIM becomes like HIM. Again Guru ji states” one in million” koee Virla” will do that; so clearly as per definitions given in Gurbani, Sadh or Sant are very rare, these words were also used for Guru ji. So I do not see any definition given by any one is better than the one given in Gurbani itself. By the way, these are not my views, I just tried say how these words are used in different contexts in Gurbani. If some one comes with different meaning other than what Gurbani says, It will be difficult for me to accept that. Thyanks for sharing your views and questions though.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 82092, member: 5889"] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੂਖੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਰੋਗੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=teal][FONT=Mangal]दूखु गइआ सभु रोगु गइआ ॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Pain is gone, and all illness is gone.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AD"][FONT=Raavi]ਪ੍ਰਭ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਗਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਨੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%96"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਰਖ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਗੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5%E0%A9%A7%E0%A5%A5"][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]प्रभ की आगिआ मन महि मानी महा पुरख का संगु भइआ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Tahoma]I have accepted the Will of God in my mind, associating with the Great Person, the Guru. ||1||Pause||[/FONT][/COLOR] While doing some research on 'Saint' I have come across the above lines and shall be grateful if some light is thrown on the line that is colored in Blue. The literal translation or the literal meaning may not be acceptable as per [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Sikh[/URL] philosophy. I submit this for the kind guidance of the learned members. ( Quote Sikh 80 ji) [B] Sikh 80 ji,[/B] [B]Your comments” literal translation may not be acceptable as per Sikh Phylosophy” Why not? In Gurbani, there is a definition of Sant/ Sadh, why it should be unacceptable to Sikh philosophy?[/B] [B]Above two Guru Vaakas, are together in conveying a meaning, pain and illness also needed to be explained. Pain we endure due to our actions ( current or past), illness is not only related with any physical disease, being inflicted with Maya is also illness, so When Great person, Guru is met, wall of falsehood loaded with illusions is shattered. What result it brings then? His Ordinance is understood ( Hukm Rajaaee chalna Nanak likhya naal), this very Ordinance becomes sweet and obeying it generates happiness; pain, sorrow and all Maya disease are gone because conflicts are gone, Duality ceases to exist. Take another example, He is pious Water, our souls are filthy water, when filth is cleaned, soul water mixed with pious Water. NOW LOOK AT GURBANI DEFINITION OF SANT/SADH [/FONT][/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਲੋਕ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਃ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%AB"][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਿਰਾਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਸਰੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮਾਂ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੰਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਧੰਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੇਈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੂਰਨੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr] (GGS 319)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Slok 5th Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Who with every breath and morsel of theirs, forget not God's Name and within whose mind is this spell,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]they alone are the blessed and they alone are the perfect saints, O Nanak.[/FONT][/COLOR] (Tr by Manmohan singh) [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]Sant[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr]= [U] Because of being imbued always with Lord’s love as interpreted by Guru ji,so he/she conquers vices, stays above depravity, iniquity, wickedness and corruption, revenge, jealousy, beguiling habits, quagmire of ego- iceberg etc and always remain only imbued with love of Parbrahm.( Bhai Veer Singh “SGGSKP-95)[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [B]Here is Sadh described by well known and virtuous Bhai Veer Singh and Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha[/B] [B]Sadh[/B]= [B]Lover of Akaalpurakh (Bhia Veer Singh Sri Guru Granth Sahib Kosh )[/B] [B]Sadh= Virtuous, devoted to well being for others, Holy man, pious,( Bhai Kahan Singh –Mahan Kosh p-101[/B] [B][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨੁ ਅ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#AB5555][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਧੁ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi][B][U]ਸਾਧੈ ਜਨੁ ਕੋਇ[/U][/B] [/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black]The mind is uncontrollable; rare are those who subdue it, keep in control.[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr] (GGS 159) So Sadh is him/her who has kept mind in control literally from all kind of vices and negative primal forces.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਛਾਇਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਰੂਪੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਧੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਜਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਾਦੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਬਾਦੁ[/FONT] [/URL] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=AnmolUniPr](1376)( Kabir Ji)[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]There can be no more better explanation than the definition of Sant/Sadh given in Gurbani, problem rises when context of Sadh or Sant is not understood in different contexts, [/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black]or sticking with one meaning in all different contexts. Just understanding vast application is necessary to get out of confusion about a single word. Guru ji also states the ones who realize HIM becomes like HIM. Again Guru ji states” one in million” koee Virla” will do that; so clearly as per definitions given in Gurbani, Sadh or Sant are very rare, these words were also used for Guru ji. So I do not see any definition given by any one is better than the one given in Gurbani itself. By the way, these are not my views, I just tried say how these words are used in different contexts in Gurbani. If some one comes with different meaning other than what Gurbani says, It will be difficult for me to accept that. Thyanks for sharing your views and questions though.[/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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