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Gurbani (1294-96)
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<blockquote data-quote="Harry Haller" data-source="post: 163695" data-attributes="member: 14641"><p>Luckyji, </p><p></p><p>I have been giving this matter much thought, yesterday I walked the 3 miles to work, and thought of nothing else. It was at this point I realised something, I am always praying. It has never occurred to me to set a time out to pray, or to ready myself for prayer, or a request because I am having a constant conversation with the essence of Creator in my head. However the conversations do not take place as prayers would, they go more along the line of, 'I must do better at this, I must try harder at that', and how to achieve such in line with Bani and Hukam. I don't know if this is a universal thing but right and wrong are very clear in my head. As I walked, I know its wrong to stare at the lady at the bus stop in the mini skirt and the high heels, but as I avert my gaze, I also know its wrong to have an aversion to staring at the same lady, the key is indifference, its just a lady, a human being, old enough to be my sister, what she is wearing is irrelevant, wisdom comes in acknowledging her as a sister, and being neither attracted nor repulsed. All this is happening while I walk, I spot a brand new Range Rover, and a mixture of slight envy and apathy wash over me, I internally debate these feelings, and conclude that I am better off admiring it and being happy for the owner, this is the correct way to feel, and so forth, and my entire day is spent in this manner, feeling emotions, checking those emotions, debating what I feel, what I should feel, what Bani advises me to feel, what Hukam tells me to feel, which feeling is the one that is going to bring me closer to consonance, closer to Creation, which feeling is really me, am I the sex starved lunatic who envies others cars, or am I a brother to everyone, and gracious enough to be happy for others. As I get closer to my shop, I reflect on the dinner I cooked my wife yesterday, unfortunately she was too tired to be intimate when we went to bed, I had a slight feeling that my dinner should have been reciprocated, I also knew feeling like this was wrong, more debating, must try harder to give love unconditionally, not to get jealous of the attention to the 8 animals that live with us, to not act like a small boy not getting attention, I make a mental note to read some relevant bani on the subject, in order that I can gain understanding and follow hukam better,so tell me Luckyji, is this all praying?</p><p></p><p>My parents in their wisdom sent me to a convent school when I was young, so I understand. Sin by its very nature brings guilt, guilt is bad, I think that is why Sikhism does not recognise sin, sure, we are not all perfect, but better to try and be pure through wisdom and understanding, than beat yourself over the head with a big stick, which is what guilt is. </p><p></p><p>I look forward to your reply Veer Luckyji</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry Haller, post: 163695, member: 14641"] Luckyji, I have been giving this matter much thought, yesterday I walked the 3 miles to work, and thought of nothing else. It was at this point I realised something, I am always praying. It has never occurred to me to set a time out to pray, or to ready myself for prayer, or a request because I am having a constant conversation with the essence of Creator in my head. However the conversations do not take place as prayers would, they go more along the line of, 'I must do better at this, I must try harder at that', and how to achieve such in line with Bani and Hukam. I don't know if this is a universal thing but right and wrong are very clear in my head. As I walked, I know its wrong to stare at the lady at the bus stop in the mini skirt and the high heels, but as I avert my gaze, I also know its wrong to have an aversion to staring at the same lady, the key is indifference, its just a lady, a human being, old enough to be my sister, what she is wearing is irrelevant, wisdom comes in acknowledging her as a sister, and being neither attracted nor repulsed. All this is happening while I walk, I spot a brand new Range Rover, and a mixture of slight envy and apathy wash over me, I internally debate these feelings, and conclude that I am better off admiring it and being happy for the owner, this is the correct way to feel, and so forth, and my entire day is spent in this manner, feeling emotions, checking those emotions, debating what I feel, what I should feel, what Bani advises me to feel, what Hukam tells me to feel, which feeling is the one that is going to bring me closer to consonance, closer to Creation, which feeling is really me, am I the sex starved lunatic who envies others cars, or am I a brother to everyone, and gracious enough to be happy for others. As I get closer to my shop, I reflect on the dinner I cooked my wife yesterday, unfortunately she was too tired to be intimate when we went to bed, I had a slight feeling that my dinner should have been reciprocated, I also knew feeling like this was wrong, more debating, must try harder to give love unconditionally, not to get jealous of the attention to the 8 animals that live with us, to not act like a small boy not getting attention, I make a mental note to read some relevant bani on the subject, in order that I can gain understanding and follow hukam better,so tell me Luckyji, is this all praying? My parents in their wisdom sent me to a convent school when I was young, so I understand. Sin by its very nature brings guilt, guilt is bad, I think that is why Sikhism does not recognise sin, sure, we are not all perfect, but better to try and be pure through wisdom and understanding, than beat yourself over the head with a big stick, which is what guilt is. I look forward to your reply Veer Luckyji [/QUOTE]
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