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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 163617" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p>Harry ji</p><p>Reading the above post, I can see too many points that in turn I can stress and argue with in another post. You will do the same and so on..... There are far too many posts that argue in this manner. I'm not here to participate in this style of dialogue, I have no reason to. The forum is abouth sikhism, and we debate and learn from each other in this manner. By arguing every sentence quoted no one ends up learning, it becomes a battle of egos.- I'm right and you are wrong,...blah ...blah... This progress from debating to arguing is not my method of conversing. I dont' have the time or need for this activity and don't wish to put ego at play- battling it, is hard enough.</p><p> </p><p>When I participate in any post, I talk on a universal level and not just about me,me,me.</p><p>I don't say this is me, this is what I do, so accept it. I try to talk from a general and majority, to make it easier for others reading this to understand, especially the young youth.</p><p> </p><p>If you have not gained any ounce of spirituality from prayer, then that is personal to your very life so far-. It is not something you should use to encourage others.</p><p>There are many people who are only closer to God or have a strong belief in faith thanks to prayer. I don't think there are as many who have drifted away from the lord because of prayer.</p><p>When one is in times of distress, when no answers seem clear, when desperation is high, they mostly turn to prayer. Even someone who has no or little faith eventually turns to prayer in these moments of need. </p><p>I have come across many people whohave a strong hold on sikhism and belief in God because it somehow started with prayer.</p><p> </p><p>I have seen young women that are critically ill on their deathbeds with only a 30% chance of survival, The medical team doing the best they can, the family relying on them and wanting to be able to do something if they can. When they ask, how can they help. What does everyone say?-Pray- Is what they are told by the majority, just pray.</p><p>What can you say to her 5 yr old kid, how can you possibly explain what 30% odds mean?? Even the 5yr old, will undertstand what you mean when you say 'pray' to God.</p><p>The kid will think if I pray, someone in more control may even listen and make my mummy well.!!!!</p><p>What is wrong with this ?? Am I going to tell this little kid there is no point praying if he asks me ??</p><p> </p><p>As I stated above, I am also aware of many people who have in turn, turned to God and religion after their experiences with prayer. Many who once didn't believe in a God or religion.</p><p>These beings have faced some difficult encounters where the only thing left for them to do was 'pray'.-After praying, if their lives turned around for the better and this praying convinced them of a Lord, then who am I to deny the power of prayer. Why should we suggest that it is a waste of time????</p><p> </p><p>Wether I pray or not does not matter, to me just asking for forgiveness is enough. Since we all repeatedly sin all the time , be it directly or indirectly. When I say sin, it means anything from negative thoughts or actions, saying something unintentionally that offends someone, ego, greed, infact all the five vices, I consider as sin.</p><p> </p><p>Praying for forgiveness is somethiing every one of us can do. Will it help ?</p><p>We can't answer that, but there is no harm in trying.</p><p> </p><p>I hope you understand what I'm saying, that we shouldn't discourage anyone from praying.</p><p>Praying has bought many closer to god, no doubt.</p><p>To the little 5yr old kid if his mother gets better, his prayer is going to seem like a magic formula- nothing wrong with that, Atleast the kid will realise that their must be a God.</p><p> </p><p>So, Harryji after reading your comments about prayer, I do not at all feel that I should discourage anyone from praying. It's just not the sort of thing I would do, when I know of many as described above that have gained benefit in some regard.</p><p> </p><p>Bhul Chuk marf</p><p>Forgive if I have offended although I will pray for forgiveness.</p><p> </p><p>Lucky Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 163617, member: 16886"] Harry ji Reading the above post, I can see too many points that in turn I can stress and argue with in another post. You will do the same and so on..... There are far too many posts that argue in this manner. I'm not here to participate in this style of dialogue, I have no reason to. The forum is abouth sikhism, and we debate and learn from each other in this manner. By arguing every sentence quoted no one ends up learning, it becomes a battle of egos.- I'm right and you are wrong,...blah ...blah... This progress from debating to arguing is not my method of conversing. I dont' have the time or need for this activity and don't wish to put ego at play- battling it, is hard enough. When I participate in any post, I talk on a universal level and not just about me,me,me. I don't say this is me, this is what I do, so accept it. I try to talk from a general and majority, to make it easier for others reading this to understand, especially the young youth. If you have not gained any ounce of spirituality from prayer, then that is personal to your very life so far-. It is not something you should use to encourage others. There are many people who are only closer to God or have a strong belief in faith thanks to prayer. I don't think there are as many who have drifted away from the lord because of prayer. When one is in times of distress, when no answers seem clear, when desperation is high, they mostly turn to prayer. Even someone who has no or little faith eventually turns to prayer in these moments of need. I have come across many people whohave a strong hold on sikhism and belief in God because it somehow started with prayer. I have seen young women that are critically ill on their deathbeds with only a 30% chance of survival, The medical team doing the best they can, the family relying on them and wanting to be able to do something if they can. When they ask, how can they help. What does everyone say?-Pray- Is what they are told by the majority, just pray. What can you say to her 5 yr old kid, how can you possibly explain what 30% odds mean?? Even the 5yr old, will undertstand what you mean when you say 'pray' to God. The kid will think if I pray, someone in more control may even listen and make my mummy well.!!!! What is wrong with this ?? Am I going to tell this little kid there is no point praying if he asks me ?? As I stated above, I am also aware of many people who have in turn, turned to God and religion after their experiences with prayer. Many who once didn't believe in a God or religion. These beings have faced some difficult encounters where the only thing left for them to do was 'pray'.-After praying, if their lives turned around for the better and this praying convinced them of a Lord, then who am I to deny the power of prayer. Why should we suggest that it is a waste of time???? Wether I pray or not does not matter, to me just asking for forgiveness is enough. Since we all repeatedly sin all the time , be it directly or indirectly. When I say sin, it means anything from negative thoughts or actions, saying something unintentionally that offends someone, ego, greed, infact all the five vices, I consider as sin. Praying for forgiveness is somethiing every one of us can do. Will it help ? We can't answer that, but there is no harm in trying. I hope you understand what I'm saying, that we shouldn't discourage anyone from praying. Praying has bought many closer to god, no doubt. To the little 5yr old kid if his mother gets better, his prayer is going to seem like a magic formula- nothing wrong with that, Atleast the kid will realise that their must be a God. So, Harryji after reading your comments about prayer, I do not at all feel that I should discourage anyone from praying. It's just not the sort of thing I would do, when I know of many as described above that have gained benefit in some regard. Bhul Chuk marf Forgive if I have offended although I will pray for forgiveness. Lucky Singh [/QUOTE]
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