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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
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Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
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Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
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Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
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<blockquote data-quote="findingmyway" data-source="post: 142078" data-attributes="member: 12855"><p>I see a lot has happened in this thread! This time my reply comes from a pre-typed document which was my usual course of action until recently!!</p><p></p><p>Confused ji,</p><p>This is going to be a very long reply too (though possibly not as long as the one I wrote earlier). Your posts have confused me no end as I really don't fully understand where you are coming from or the concepts you are proposing. I see lots of mixing up between the mind and the real world in a way that doesn't make sense to me. I'll try and tackle various points you have mentioned so bear with me. Before I do that though I would just like to mention that we all feel we are on the right path. Listening to other points of view is great until they are put across as I am right and you are wrong and it cannot possibly be any other way. When things are discussed without this bias and talking down to people then it is a positive learning experience by allowing us all to amend our understanding. This is why I like to hear other points of view. Yours provide much thought as they come from a different perspective.</p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> I am not really clear on what you consider to be result or cause. You refer to such concepts a lot so it may help for you to clarify. I ask not to be contrary but to understand more. With reference to karma, what do you see as causes and results? How are you relating pain to karma? Pain is pain-it still hurts. That is due to the firing of pain neurons which are there to make us sit up and take note. We cannot change that. I would say it is the ability to deal with pain rather than the pain itself which is related to karma. Our current lifetime is going to have a huge impact on that. Good karma results in ultimate peace rather than worldly praise, status, pleasure etc that you allude so several times in your posts. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> Please also clarify what difference you see between rebirth and reincarnation and how this affects your understanding? My understanding is that rebirth refers to the spiritual soul during this lifetime and is determined by our actions and thoughts. Reincarnation is the rebirth of soul into a new body, new life and is not a central belief in Sikhi.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> Going back to the beginning, you define karma as intention and volition. There is a huge difference in the 2. Intentions are not enough, actions are essential for good karma. There is a Christian saying, “The road to the devil is paved with food intentions.” If we follow our will it can take us in the wrong direction. Gurbani teaches us to control our will and bend it to look beyond ourselves. That is how to earn good karma which will help us to lead a happy and spiritual life. Merely knowing our own mind is not enough as per my understanding, we need to then learn to control our senses and hence become better people. Knowledge is power but only if we choose to use it rather than sit on it saying this is the way it is!</p><p> </p><p></p><p> You mention memory. Memory is a very powerful teaching tool. Paying a good deed back is not necessary, it can also be paid forward. Paying forward is actually more beneficial. Your concept of karma requires an even more elusive concept of memory-that of the memory of previous lives encased in a soul. Memory during the lifetime seems more credible. Gurbani is all about thinking about our actions so they are not controlled by lust, anger, attachment, greed and ego. Memory can help with this.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> I find some difficulty in understanding your concept of attachment and how you judge people. On one hand you agree that a persons intentions cannot be known but then you also seem to use your perception of those actions for understanding karma. Attachment cannot be eliminated completely but needs to be used constructively. You are attached to your notion of karma and other Buddhist concepts and I am attached to the SGGS. I would not necessarily call these negative attachments if they sustain and inspire us. You also talk about pleasure. I see this as a worldly attachment along with many other sensations. It is spiritual peace I aim for to try and detach myself from worldly pleasure and pain. (Not close to achieving this yet though!) Forgive me if I have misunderstood you.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> You talk about misunderstanding being dangerous. To whom and how? 100% understanding on every topic by all people is not possible. That is also God's will! Karma is such a topic where I don't think it is possible for any of us to know with complete surety what is right. I am a scientist and like to have evidence. I see the evidence of Waheguru's existence all around me in the real world. I see the effects of karma within a lifetime but I do not see the effects of past lives. This does not mean it is not possible but until I see evidence then I will not believe. If I did it would become blind faith and this is not encouraged by Gurbani. Until there is evidence, nothing is a proven fact.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> This may be a case of “agreeing to disagree” over whether past lives are central to karma or not. If you feel I am a lost soul that is ok as I am used to it. One of my Christian friends no longer talks to me as I refused to be saved by Jesus! Apologies for the length, jumping nature and generality of this post. I hope it is still coherent. It has been an exhausting week!</p><p> Gurfateh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="findingmyway, post: 142078, member: 12855"] I see a lot has happened in this thread! This time my reply comes from a pre-typed document which was my usual course of action until recently!! Confused ji, This is going to be a very long reply too (though possibly not as long as the one I wrote earlier). Your posts have confused me no end as I really don't fully understand where you are coming from or the concepts you are proposing. I see lots of mixing up between the mind and the real world in a way that doesn't make sense to me. I'll try and tackle various points you have mentioned so bear with me. Before I do that though I would just like to mention that we all feel we are on the right path. Listening to other points of view is great until they are put across as I am right and you are wrong and it cannot possibly be any other way. When things are discussed without this bias and talking down to people then it is a positive learning experience by allowing us all to amend our understanding. This is why I like to hear other points of view. Yours provide much thought as they come from a different perspective. I am not really clear on what you consider to be result or cause. You refer to such concepts a lot so it may help for you to clarify. I ask not to be contrary but to understand more. With reference to karma, what do you see as causes and results? How are you relating pain to karma? Pain is pain-it still hurts. That is due to the firing of pain neurons which are there to make us sit up and take note. We cannot change that. I would say it is the ability to deal with pain rather than the pain itself which is related to karma. Our current lifetime is going to have a huge impact on that. Good karma results in ultimate peace rather than worldly praise, status, pleasure etc that you allude so several times in your posts. Please also clarify what difference you see between rebirth and reincarnation and how this affects your understanding? My understanding is that rebirth refers to the spiritual soul during this lifetime and is determined by our actions and thoughts. Reincarnation is the rebirth of soul into a new body, new life and is not a central belief in Sikhi. Going back to the beginning, you define karma as intention and volition. There is a huge difference in the 2. Intentions are not enough, actions are essential for good karma. There is a Christian saying, “The road to the devil is paved with food intentions.” If we follow our will it can take us in the wrong direction. Gurbani teaches us to control our will and bend it to look beyond ourselves. That is how to earn good karma which will help us to lead a happy and spiritual life. Merely knowing our own mind is not enough as per my understanding, we need to then learn to control our senses and hence become better people. Knowledge is power but only if we choose to use it rather than sit on it saying this is the way it is! You mention memory. Memory is a very powerful teaching tool. Paying a good deed back is not necessary, it can also be paid forward. Paying forward is actually more beneficial. Your concept of karma requires an even more elusive concept of memory-that of the memory of previous lives encased in a soul. Memory during the lifetime seems more credible. Gurbani is all about thinking about our actions so they are not controlled by lust, anger, attachment, greed and ego. Memory can help with this. I find some difficulty in understanding your concept of attachment and how you judge people. On one hand you agree that a persons intentions cannot be known but then you also seem to use your perception of those actions for understanding karma. Attachment cannot be eliminated completely but needs to be used constructively. You are attached to your notion of karma and other Buddhist concepts and I am attached to the SGGS. I would not necessarily call these negative attachments if they sustain and inspire us. You also talk about pleasure. I see this as a worldly attachment along with many other sensations. It is spiritual peace I aim for to try and detach myself from worldly pleasure and pain. (Not close to achieving this yet though!) Forgive me if I have misunderstood you. You talk about misunderstanding being dangerous. To whom and how? 100% understanding on every topic by all people is not possible. That is also God's will! Karma is such a topic where I don't think it is possible for any of us to know with complete surety what is right. I am a scientist and like to have evidence. I see the evidence of Waheguru's existence all around me in the real world. I see the effects of karma within a lifetime but I do not see the effects of past lives. This does not mean it is not possible but until I see evidence then I will not believe. If I did it would become blind faith and this is not encouraged by Gurbani. Until there is evidence, nothing is a proven fact. This may be a case of “agreeing to disagree” over whether past lives are central to karma or not. If you feel I am a lost soul that is ok as I am used to it. One of my Christian friends no longer talks to me as I refused to be saved by Jesus! Apologies for the length, jumping nature and generality of this post. I hope it is still coherent. It has been an exhausting week! Gurfateh. [/QUOTE]
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