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What Is Difference Between Guru And Parmeshwar As Per Gurbani
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<blockquote data-quote="CaramelChocolate" data-source="post: 9255" data-attributes="member: 228"><p style="text-align: left">I would like to start of this response with a beautiful quote.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">joqI hU pRBu jwpdw ibnu sqgur bUJ n pwie ]</p><p>j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>th<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>oo</strong></span> prabh j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>padh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>n sathag<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>r b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>oo</strong></span>jh n p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e ||</p><p><strong>Through His Light, God is revealed. Without the True Guru, understanding is not obtained.</strong> [35]</p><p> </p><p>Yes I know Sikhism says God can be reached by many ways, but what annoys me is the Hindus who say Guru Nanak is God purely because he was composed of these three things: Indian, Infuential spiritual leader, Born into Hinduism.</p><p> </p><p>I guess this attitude could be regarded as racist.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>kImiq pwie n kihAw jwie ]</p><p>k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>math p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e n keh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e ||</p><p><em>His Value cannot be estimated; <strong><u>He cannot be described</u></strong>. [9]</em></p><p> </p><p>sqguru syiv gux inDwnu pwieAw iqs dI kIm n pweI ]</p><p>sathag<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>r s<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>v g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>n n<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>dhh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>n p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> th<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>s dh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>m n p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> ||</p><p><em><u><strong>Serving</strong></u> the True <strong><u>Guru</u></strong>, one <u><strong>finds</strong></u> the <strong><u>Lord</u></strong>, the Treasure of Excellence. His Value <strong><u>cannot be estimated</u></strong>. [32]</em></p><p> </p><p>kImiq khxu n jweIAY swgru guxI AQwhu ]</p><p>k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>math kehan n j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> s<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>gar g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>n<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> athh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span> ||</p><p><em><strong><u>His Value cannot be estimated</u></strong>; He is the Vast Ocean of Excellence. [46]</em></p><p> </p><p>qw kI kImiq nw pvY jy locY sBu koie ]</p><p>th<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>math n<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> pav<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> j<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span> l<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>ch<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> sabh k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>e ||</p><p><em>His Value <strong><u>cannot be estimated</u></strong>, even though <strong><u>everyone may wish to do so</u></strong>.[60]</em></p><p> </p><p>siqguru syiv gux inDwnu pwieAw iqs kI kIm n pweI ]</p><p>sath<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>r s<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ae</strong></span>v g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>n n<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>dhh<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>n p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>e<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span> th<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>s k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span>m n p<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span> ||</p><p><em>Serving the True Guru, I have found the Treasure of Excellence. <strong><u>Its value cannot be estimated</u></strong>. [65]</em></p><p> </p><p>There we see solid proof that Shri Guru Granth Sahib is NOT God. I can not only estimate it's value but I can tell it's value how many pages it has [limbs if personification is your thing], how many words it has, the basic knowledge it has.</p><p> </p><p>ibnu gur mYlu n auqrY ibnu hir ikau Gr vwsu ]</p><p>b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>n g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>r m<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span>l n o<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>thar<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>n har k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>o ghar v<span style="color: #080088"><strong>aa</strong></span>s ||</p><p><em>Without the Guru, this pollution is not removed. Without the Lord, how can there be any homecoming? [18]</em></p><p> </p><p>gur ibnu ikau qrIAY suKu hoie ]</p><p>g<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>r b<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>n k<span style="color: #080088"><strong>i</strong></span>o thar<span style="color: #080088"><strong>ee</strong></span><span style="color: #080088"><strong>ai</strong></span> s<span style="color: #080088"><strong>u</strong></span>kh h<span style="color: #080088"><strong>o</strong></span>e ||</p><p><em>Without the Guru, how can anyone swim across to find peace? [20]</em></p><p> </p><p>Shri Guru Granth Sahib cannot be God as it says you need a Guruji to direct you to God and also says God is in comprehensible, therefore, <strong>if Guruji is God</strong> then Guruji cannot be comprehended so no-one can gain ANY knowledge from it making Sikhism a totally pointless religion!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CaramelChocolate, post: 9255, member: 228"] [left]I would like to start of this response with a beautiful quote.[/left] [center]joqI hU pRBu jwpdw ibnu sqgur bUJ n pwie ][/center] j[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color]th[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] h[color=#080088][b]oo[/b][/color] prabh j[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]padh[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] b[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]n sathag[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]r b[color=#080088][b]oo[/b][/color]jh n p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]e || [b]Through His Light, God is revealed. Without the True Guru, understanding is not obtained.[/b] [35] Yes I know Sikhism says God can be reached by many ways, but what annoys me is the Hindus who say Guru Nanak is God purely because he was composed of these three things: Indian, Infuential spiritual leader, Born into Hinduism. I guess this attitude could be regarded as racist. kImiq pwie n kihAw jwie ] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]math p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]e n keh[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] j[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]e || [i]His Value cannot be estimated; [b][u]He cannot be described[/u][/b]. [9][/i] sqguru syiv gux inDwnu pwieAw iqs dI kIm n pweI ] sathag[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]r s[color=#080088][b]ae[/b][/color]v g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]n n[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]dhh[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]n p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]e[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] th[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]s dh[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]m n p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] || [i][u][b]Serving[/b][/u] the True [b][u]Guru[/u][/b], one [u][b]finds[/b][/u] the [b][u]Lord[/u][/b], the Treasure of Excellence. His Value [b][u]cannot be estimated[/u][/b]. [32][/i] kImiq khxu n jweIAY swgru guxI AQwhu ] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]math kehan n j[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color] s[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]gar g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]n[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] athh[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]h[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color] || [i][b][u]His Value cannot be estimated[/u][/b]; He is the Vast Ocean of Excellence. [46][/i] qw kI kImiq nw pvY jy locY sBu koie ] th[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]math n[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] pav[color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color] j[color=#080088][b]ae[/b][/color] l[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color]ch[color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color] sabh k[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color]e || [i]His Value [b][u]cannot be estimated[/u][/b], even though [b][u]everyone may wish to do so[/u][/b].[60][/i] siqguru syiv gux inDwnu pwieAw iqs kI kIm n pweI ] sath[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]r s[color=#080088][b]ae[/b][/color]v g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]n n[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]dhh[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]n p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]e[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color] th[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]s k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]m n p[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color] || [i]Serving the True Guru, I have found the Treasure of Excellence. [b][u]Its value cannot be estimated[/u][/b]. [65][/i] There we see solid proof that Shri Guru Granth Sahib is NOT God. I can not only estimate it's value but I can tell it's value how many pages it has [limbs if personification is your thing], how many words it has, the basic knowledge it has. ibnu gur mYlu n auqrY ibnu hir ikau Gr vwsu ] b[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]n g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]r m[color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color]l n o[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]thar[color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color] b[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]n har k[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]o ghar v[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]s || [i]Without the Guru, this pollution is not removed. Without the Lord, how can there be any homecoming? [18][/i] gur ibnu ikau qrIAY suKu hoie ] g[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]r b[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]n k[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]o thar[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color][color=#080088][b]ai[/b][/color] s[color=#080088][b]u[/b][/color]kh h[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color]e || [i]Without the Guru, how can anyone swim across to find peace? [20][/i] Shri Guru Granth Sahib cannot be God as it says you need a Guruji to direct you to God and also says God is in comprehensible, therefore, [b]if Guruji is God[/b] then Guruji cannot be comprehended so no-one can gain ANY knowledge from it making Sikhism a totally pointless religion! [/QUOTE]
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