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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
What Is Detachment? Is It Misunderstood?
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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 72197" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>jeetjohal ji,</p><p></p><p>Please forgive me if I did not answer your question earlier in the thread. Sometimes I get distracted. I started this thread because detachment is one issue where, at least in my opinion, there are not easy answers, no quick fixes. No silver bullet. Follow this sadhana and you will find detachment -- which is what we are told. </p><p></p><p>You quote, Hours of darkness when the mind barks like a dog and quote the verse that says, "I cannot meditate." When you repeat the metaphor, my mind barks like a dog, I know exactly what that is saying. That happens to me.</p><p></p><p>When NamJap says, <em>As long as the mind is in a state of perpetual flux and unrest, and is filled with thoughts of I-am-ness, Shabd fails to impart its sweet fragrance and Naam fails to inspire love and attraction. (Guru Ram Das) </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em>Yes, this is part of the problem. Here again is an insight into the mind that is snared by Maya. And we can see how this is not a pleasant thing. If there had never been our Gurus, even without this forum, even without all the study of religious scholars, we know that this is not good for us. And there are hosts of people for whom Maya, the web of illusion that snares us, is the only thing. So there is no use in discussing detachment in that corner. They believe that they have truth and reality all figured out. </p><p></p><p>Where does that leave us? We sift through the writings of people who have "wisdom" to share. We examine all of our high tides of relentless thought. We study all kinds of theories and approaches to spiritual practice. Much of it is so abstract that I don't know half the time what is being said in these articles. Some writing contradicts other writing. We observe some truly holy people who seem to have this inner calm. And we wonder, How to get from knowledge and theory to the actual, real experience of "detachment" ? Sikhism adds another challenge to this. Be a householder living in the world, having a full life -- and be detached. </p><p></p><p>What is my opinion? You said something that I suspect is on the right track, <em>Detachment is an impervious immunity of worldly matters and temptations that distract us from the path of self realisation and frredom from the bonds and shackles of existence, fear, ignorance and dependancy upon others and earthliness that do not avail us in times of distress or need.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em>Now please forgive me again when I say that I agree with you, and also that this is not the whole story. There has to be 'I-ness" to get through the day if you are a Sikh. If you are living in a cave, that is a different story. </p><p></p><p> I am going to respond in a simple-minded way, because I can't find the shabad I am looking for that expresses something very important. Detachment is "equipoise. " I trust Guruji. There is one who is truly detached, always. That is Akaal, Prabhu, Hari, Waheguru. Always in equipoise. He shows the way.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, this is a lame answer. But the discussion is open. We should say what is on our minds. When I find that shabad, I will post it. Meanwhile think of the Ch'uan master who when asked what is the Truth said nothing and instead picked up one red rose and stared at it for a long time in silence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 72197, member: 35"] jeetjohal ji, Please forgive me if I did not answer your question earlier in the thread. Sometimes I get distracted. I started this thread because detachment is one issue where, at least in my opinion, there are not easy answers, no quick fixes. No silver bullet. Follow this sadhana and you will find detachment -- which is what we are told. You quote, Hours of darkness when the mind barks like a dog and quote the verse that says, "I cannot meditate." When you repeat the metaphor, my mind barks like a dog, I know exactly what that is saying. That happens to me. When NamJap says, [I]As long as the mind is in a state of perpetual flux and unrest, and is filled with thoughts of I-am-ness, Shabd fails to impart its sweet fragrance and Naam fails to inspire love and attraction. (Guru Ram Das) [/I]Yes, this is part of the problem. Here again is an insight into the mind that is snared by Maya. And we can see how this is not a pleasant thing. If there had never been our Gurus, even without this forum, even without all the study of religious scholars, we know that this is not good for us. And there are hosts of people for whom Maya, the web of illusion that snares us, is the only thing. So there is no use in discussing detachment in that corner. They believe that they have truth and reality all figured out. Where does that leave us? We sift through the writings of people who have "wisdom" to share. We examine all of our high tides of relentless thought. We study all kinds of theories and approaches to spiritual practice. Much of it is so abstract that I don't know half the time what is being said in these articles. Some writing contradicts other writing. We observe some truly holy people who seem to have this inner calm. And we wonder, How to get from knowledge and theory to the actual, real experience of "detachment" ? Sikhism adds another challenge to this. Be a householder living in the world, having a full life -- and be detached. What is my opinion? You said something that I suspect is on the right track, [I]Detachment is an impervious immunity of worldly matters and temptations that distract us from the path of self realisation and frredom from the bonds and shackles of existence, fear, ignorance and dependancy upon others and earthliness that do not avail us in times of distress or need. [/I]Now please forgive me again when I say that I agree with you, and also that this is not the whole story. There has to be 'I-ness" to get through the day if you are a Sikh. If you are living in a cave, that is a different story. I am going to respond in a simple-minded way, because I can't find the shabad I am looking for that expresses something very important. Detachment is "equipoise. " I trust Guruji. There is one who is truly detached, always. That is Akaal, Prabhu, Hari, Waheguru. Always in equipoise. He shows the way. Sorry, this is a lame answer. But the discussion is open. We should say what is on our minds. When I find that shabad, I will post it. Meanwhile think of the Ch'uan master who when asked what is the Truth said nothing and instead picked up one red rose and stared at it for a long time in silence. [/QUOTE]
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