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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="ExploringSikhi" data-source="post: 193161" data-attributes="member: 19734"><p>Are you sure you're reading the Qur'an? Doesn't sound like it :/</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://quran.com/search?q=Muslim" target="_blank">http://quran.com/search?q=Muslim</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Correctamundo! According to Islam, the people of the book ARE out of heaven.</p><p> </p><p>The Qur'an makes it very clear that the Jewish and Christian scriptures were, at one point, pure and true. However, they became adulterated over time and no longer remain the word of God. All Christians and Jews, up until the time of Muhammad, if they followed their religions properly, will be going to heaven. However, after Muhammad came and established his religion, those Christians and Jews who heard about the message of Islam and rejected it, will be going to heaven. No 72 virgins for the people of the book, I am afraid.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I couldn't care less what the Mullahs have proclaimed Islam to be. Although I do wonder, what makes you think you are a greater authority on Islam than those people who have spent their entire lives studying it in depth? What makes you think your idea of Islam is somehow superior to that of the scholars? </p><p> </p><p>In any case, you should spend some time reviewing Islamic history before making fallacious proclamations. Muhammad himself said that his Ummah would be split into 73 sects, and out of those 73, 72 will be going to hell and only one will be going to heaven. Someone asked, 'O Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him), who will they be?' He replied, 'The main body of the Muslims (al-Jama'ah).' </p><p> </p><p>In other words, those Muslims who follow the path of Muhammad's Sahaba. 'Sunni' is short for 'ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah', which means, the people of the Sunnah [way of the Prophet Muhamamd] and the majority of Scholars; this name is used to desigante correct belief, for when minorities started to break away from the main-body of Muslims in the early days of Islam and started to form their own sects</p><p> </p><p>You are not just disagreeing with me here, you are disagreeing with your own prophet.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I really can't figure you out, you call yourself a Muslim but seem to have very limited knowledge on all-things Islamic. People don't just accept hadiths that some guy pulled out of his ***, there is a scientific method applied to determine which hadiths are authentic and which are not. You can close your eyes and cover your ears all you wish, but you are only fooling yourself. If you wish, I can post a link which shows you how authentic hadiths are determined and separated from the false ones. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The Qur'an also says that whosoever disobeys Allah <strong><em><u>AND</u></em></strong> His messenger is a disbeliever, by rejecting the hadiths, the Sunnah, the life-and times of the prophet, you have effectively taken yourself out of the folds of Islam. You can't pick and choose which verses you like and which you want to ignore. Either accept everything the Qur'an says, or don't accept anything at all. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I stand by everything I have said earlier. You need to re-educate yourself on your own religion and re-evaluate your religious stance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExploringSikhi, post: 193161, member: 19734"] Are you sure you're reading the Qur'an? Doesn't sound like it :/ [URL]http://quran.com/search?q=Muslim[/URL] Correctamundo! According to Islam, the people of the book ARE out of heaven. The Qur'an makes it very clear that the Jewish and Christian scriptures were, at one point, pure and true. However, they became adulterated over time and no longer remain the word of God. All Christians and Jews, up until the time of Muhammad, if they followed their religions properly, will be going to heaven. However, after Muhammad came and established his religion, those Christians and Jews who heard about the message of Islam and rejected it, will be going to heaven. No 72 virgins for the people of the book, I am afraid. I couldn't care less what the Mullahs have proclaimed Islam to be. Although I do wonder, what makes you think you are a greater authority on Islam than those people who have spent their entire lives studying it in depth? What makes you think your idea of Islam is somehow superior to that of the scholars? In any case, you should spend some time reviewing Islamic history before making fallacious proclamations. Muhammad himself said that his Ummah would be split into 73 sects, and out of those 73, 72 will be going to hell and only one will be going to heaven. Someone asked, 'O Messenger of Allah (Peace be upon him), who will they be?' He replied, 'The main body of the Muslims (al-Jama'ah).' In other words, those Muslims who follow the path of Muhammad's Sahaba. 'Sunni' is short for 'ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah', which means, the people of the Sunnah [way of the Prophet Muhamamd] and the majority of Scholars; this name is used to desigante correct belief, for when minorities started to break away from the main-body of Muslims in the early days of Islam and started to form their own sects You are not just disagreeing with me here, you are disagreeing with your own prophet. I really can't figure you out, you call yourself a Muslim but seem to have very limited knowledge on all-things Islamic. People don't just accept hadiths that some guy pulled out of his ***, there is a scientific method applied to determine which hadiths are authentic and which are not. You can close your eyes and cover your ears all you wish, but you are only fooling yourself. If you wish, I can post a link which shows you how authentic hadiths are determined and separated from the false ones. The Qur'an also says that whosoever disobeys Allah [B][I][U]AND[/U][/I][/B] His messenger is a disbeliever, by rejecting the hadiths, the Sunnah, the life-and times of the prophet, you have effectively taken yourself out of the folds of Islam. You can't pick and choose which verses you like and which you want to ignore. Either accept everything the Qur'an says, or don't accept anything at all. I stand by everything I have said earlier. You need to re-educate yourself on your own religion and re-evaluate your religious stance. [/QUOTE]
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