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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="ExploringSikhi" data-source="post: 193087" data-attributes="member: 19734"><p>This is false, and is a position rejected by every Muslim I have ever interacted with, doesn't matter which sect they were from. You are the only person I know to have ever held this belief. This is rejected by 99%+ of Muslims in the world.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The Qur'an says that anyone who obeys Allah and His messenger is going to go to heaven. The Qur'an says that anyone who has heard the message of Islam, and rejected it after hearing it, will go to hell.</p><p> </p><p>All unbelievers are going straight to hell. Amongst the Muslims, some will go to heaven, some will go to hell, depending on how practicing they were.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Then I am afraid that you are following the wrong religion. Islam disagrees with you.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>According to Islam, the greatest evil is to reject Allah and His messenger, you could perform every good deed in the book, but if you die a non-Muslim, the evil of your disbelief supercedes all the good that you have done. Again, I have no idea where you are getting your information from/</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I am well aware of Christian doctrine, I am from a Christian background, I was not raised to be practicing but I have knowledge of Christian philosophy. I am not mixing up the two, they both say the same thing. Christianity says if you reject Jesus as the son of God, you go to hell. Islam says if you reject Allah and His messenger, after hearing the message of Islam, you will go to hell. It is as simple as that, you are performing mental gymnastics in an attempt to make Islam compatible with your own personal beliefs, you are twisting Islamic philosophy into something you find comfortable, something you can live with, the only problem is that it no longer remains Islamic philosophy.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Not all Muslims go straight to heaven, but practicing Muslims who sincerely followed Allah and His messenger do, according to Islam. Again, show me where in the Qur'an it says otherwise. Muslims certainly do have special privilege over unbelievers.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Lol this is just icing on the cake. You are a Qur'anist, which makes you a ***** in the eyes of most Muslims around the world. To reject the Sunnah of God's final prophet, and still call yourself a Muslim, would even get you killed in certain Islamic countries.</p><p> </p><p>I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but what you are practicing is an extremely watered-down version of Islam, although even that might be a bit of an understatement. You seem to have a very contorted view of Islamic doctrines, to the point where I could make a strong argument that you are no longer within the folds of Islam.</p><p> </p><p>As a result, and I say this from a neutral position, I highly doubt that you had much knowledge on Sikhism before you decided to leave it. And if you feel that you did, it was most likely false knowledge from a questionable source, just like your knowledge of Islam seems to be limited at best. You were most likely never a Sikh to begin with, just a typical girl born into a Punjabi family.</p><p> </p><p>Again, I implore you to reevaluate your beliefs, because one does not become a Muslim simply by taking on the label.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExploringSikhi, post: 193087, member: 19734"] This is false, and is a position rejected by every Muslim I have ever interacted with, doesn't matter which sect they were from. You are the only person I know to have ever held this belief. This is rejected by 99%+ of Muslims in the world. The Qur'an says that anyone who obeys Allah and His messenger is going to go to heaven. The Qur'an says that anyone who has heard the message of Islam, and rejected it after hearing it, will go to hell. All unbelievers are going straight to hell. Amongst the Muslims, some will go to heaven, some will go to hell, depending on how practicing they were. Then I am afraid that you are following the wrong religion. Islam disagrees with you. According to Islam, the greatest evil is to reject Allah and His messenger, you could perform every good deed in the book, but if you die a non-Muslim, the evil of your disbelief supercedes all the good that you have done. Again, I have no idea where you are getting your information from/ I am well aware of Christian doctrine, I am from a Christian background, I was not raised to be practicing but I have knowledge of Christian philosophy. I am not mixing up the two, they both say the same thing. Christianity says if you reject Jesus as the son of God, you go to hell. Islam says if you reject Allah and His messenger, after hearing the message of Islam, you will go to hell. It is as simple as that, you are performing mental gymnastics in an attempt to make Islam compatible with your own personal beliefs, you are twisting Islamic philosophy into something you find comfortable, something you can live with, the only problem is that it no longer remains Islamic philosophy. Not all Muslims go straight to heaven, but practicing Muslims who sincerely followed Allah and His messenger do, according to Islam. Again, show me where in the Qur'an it says otherwise. Muslims certainly do have special privilege over unbelievers. Lol this is just icing on the cake. You are a Qur'anist, which makes you a ***** in the eyes of most Muslims around the world. To reject the Sunnah of God's final prophet, and still call yourself a Muslim, would even get you killed in certain Islamic countries. I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but what you are practicing is an extremely watered-down version of Islam, although even that might be a bit of an understatement. You seem to have a very contorted view of Islamic doctrines, to the point where I could make a strong argument that you are no longer within the folds of Islam. As a result, and I say this from a neutral position, I highly doubt that you had much knowledge on Sikhism before you decided to leave it. And if you feel that you did, it was most likely false knowledge from a questionable source, just like your knowledge of Islam seems to be limited at best. You were most likely never a Sikh to begin with, just a typical girl born into a Punjabi family. Again, I implore you to reevaluate your beliefs, because one does not become a Muslim simply by taking on the label. [/QUOTE]
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