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<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 114731" data-attributes="member: 138"><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Arshi ji,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Guru Fateh. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A very good synopsis on one's life as an individual and the ill traits we carry which can become the beasts of burden if not tackled with the help of SGGS, our ONLY GURU.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Before I begin to comment on this wonderful thought, I would like to make one thing very clear. There is no mal intention or any criticism intended nor is it directed towards any of your points. My thoughts are just my own personal observations which can also be contested by any of the fellow members including yourself. This is the only way, we, as Sikhs can learn by breeding open mindedness. As they say, “one can not embrace the world with one's arms crossed”. Sikhi teaches us to open our arms which in return help us come out of our own self created fetal positions no matter how much we have grown from the outside.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, I apologise in advance for any indiscretions that one may find in my comments because I am as fallible as others, if not more.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Title: <strong>VIRTUES AND <u>EVILS</u></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">For me, Evil is the word used and practiced in the dogmatic religions such as the Semitic ones and also in the Hinduism and in its mythology a lot. Allow me to give you a few examples:</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">From the OT which is part of the Scriptures for the Jews and the Christians.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will thrust you through, smash your children to pieces before your eyes, and rape your wife.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">God said to the others, Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children." (Ezekiel 9:5-6)</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">GOD created perfect EVIL (Ezekiel 28:15).</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There are many more examples in the Holy Bible like that.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now let’s check the way Evil in the Holy Quran</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">:</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In fact, the Quran says it is Satan who does:</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">O men, eat of what is in the earth lawful and good; and follow not the steps of Satan; he is a manifest foe to you. <em>He only commands you to evil and indecency</em>, and that you should speak against God such things as you know not. S. 2:168-169</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The Quran further says that Allah does not destroy any city unjustly:</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">That is because thy Lord would never destroy the cities unjustly, while their inhabitants were heedless. S. 6:131</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yet we are told elsewhere that Allah does indeed command wickedness and indecency:</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And when We desire to destroy a city, <em><u>WE COMMAND</u></em><u> its men who live at ease, <em>AND THEY COMMIT UNGODLINESS</em> therein</u>, then the Word is realized against it, and We destroy it utterly. S. 17:16</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In Hinduism we know the Evil ritual of Sati which Guru Nanak abolished. The story of Dropti shows the evil and we also know the story about Bhagat Prahlad in SGGS and many other stories and parables mentioned about evil in the SGGS, our ONLY GURU.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Evil was also committed on the Sikhs in 1947 and in 1984.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">But Sikhi does not believe, nor does it propagate Evil.To the contrary. It is all about Love which can only happen when we Love the Nirbhau and Nirvair- Ik Ong Kaar.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, I would rather use the phrase ill-traits for the five thieves than evil. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In fact you did mention them as negative traits- which is the same as ill traits, ( the five thieves) in your first 2 lines but again your changed them to <u><strong>five Evils</strong></u>.</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yes, I agree with you that these five thieves-ill traits are the roadblocks in our Gurmat lives but the good thing is that with the help SGGS as our tool box they can be converted into mere bumps on the road of our Gurmat Marg.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> In other words, one, with the help of SGGS can use these stumbling blocks and turn them into stepping stones by lassoing these five thieves and talking control of them. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There is an interesting program that you may have watched on the National Geography Channel called “The Dog Whisperer” in which the host Cesar Millan teaches both the dogs and their owners how to take control of the animals rather than the other way around. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So, these 5 thieves are like spoiled pets one can say and we should train ourselves with the help of SGGS how to get control of them and use them to our advantage. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In other words, we have to become the “Five thief whisperers” using SGGS as our only guide.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">One more thing I would like to clarify is that my questions are not directed to you in my post but I am thinking aloud to understand myself about this important subject.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">You write:</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">1. </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I would like to know how does a child become Manmukh? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">2. Do the parents play any role in him/her becoming so? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">3. If the parents realize that on time, is there a remedy where he/she can also become a seeker? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">4. How can we as parents reject someone who was in his/her mother’s womb for nine months and was breastfed the same way as the other one? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">5. Who are his real guides? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">We all know what happens to the Gurmukh but isn’t it our duty as parents and with the help of SGGS to turn all our kids into Gurmukhs? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If they do not turn to be like that, I think the fault lies in us as parents and our lack of parenting skills, not with our children whom we are quick to label as Manmukhs .</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A Sikh means a student, a learner, a seeker. So, I am a bit confused by your assertion above of someone being a non-Sikh, meaning not a learner. I am sure you do not mean that by calling other people whose Gurbani is in SGGS as non- Sikhs. All whose Gurbani is included in the SGGS were Sikhs because they love the only ONE SOURCE which is IK ONG KAAR</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">.</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>1. Kaam (lust).</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I agree with you on this that it should be only practiced between the married couples but not solely for procreation because humans are the only animals that do not have specific time of the year to mate. So, love making with the one that one loves can strengthen and solidify the relationship and companionship, especially when we grow old and the sexual lust dissipates, however the moments spent in the past cement the relationship in the later stage of the couple’s lives. </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">2. Krodh</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">: </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Krodh is actually anger that breeds disdain and hatred which is a very negative trait. Krodh makes us find faults in others in order to hide ours. It is a negative proactive approach which creates submission and repression. Krodh also breeds vengeance and leaves no room for forgiveness. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Little does the Krodhi know that Forgiveness <span style="color: black">exists only in the mind of the forgiver, and therefore requires no "acceptance".</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>3. Lobh (Greed</strong></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">)</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There is a very thin line between lobh (greed) and necessity. Abraham Maslow’s triangle of self actualization shows this quite well. And one tends to cross this like a rope skipper which happens quite often. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Is making money bad? The more money one makes as a business man for example, more employees one can hire and help others in this way. </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Is giving the best education to our kids bad? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Is working to the best of our abilities, provided one does not step on other people’s toes bad? </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">If all these good traits can bring wealth which can help others, then there is nothing wrong with that but it is all positive. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Only truthful living can teach us how not to cross the line but to widen it with the help of our tool box, SGGS.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">4. Moh.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I would call moh more than attachment. Allow me to coin a phrase for Moh- <strong>Salivating uncontrollable desire</strong>- <strong>a mental gluttony</strong>. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It can also be in a physical hunger when our eyes become bigger than our tummies and we stuff ourselves till we are ready to explode and then grab for antacid to soothe our discomfort driven by this physical moh which leads to obesity. I heard some of the obese pilgrims on their annual mechanical rituals to go to Hemkunt Sahib died of heart attacks because of too much moh wrapped around their guts.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Moh also gets intertwined with lobh where we start competing for a bigger house,better cars, bigger diamond studded Khandas around our necks and longer and bigger necklaces with better jewels than our friendly neighbours, <u><strong>the other </strong><strong>Singhs</strong></u>. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Yes, once it becomes a rat race, there is no way of turning back. We all look like obese people, both from the outside and the inside unable to walk towards the Gurmat path, neither physically nor mentally because we have buried ourselves with the gaudy heavy jewels and the lard, both accumulated with the help of moh and lobh.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In my opinion, the word detachment does not do any justice to the antidote of Moh laced with Lobh. Allow me to coin another phrase to express myself<u><strong>- disciplined empathy</strong></u>. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It is impossible to detach ourselves from these 5 thieves which are part and parcel of the human creation. They all dwell in us. We have to train ourselves with the help of SGGS to control them rather than being controlled by them. As mentioned earlier, we have to become the “ The five thief whisperers” 24-7 which does not require detachment but continuous handling of the 5 leashes.</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">5. Hunkaar or Houmai—Me-ism</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The intercourse among <span style="color: black">Kaam, Krodh, Lobh and Moh gives birth to Hunkaar-<u><strong>me-ism</strong></u> where<u><strong>- I, me-</strong></u> become not only the cornerstone of one’s life but they help one build a huge portal to welcome the like minded born out of the same gestation. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Self becomes the only thing that matters rather than <u><strong>“Tunhee, Tunhee”</strong></u>. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">We become infallible. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">We project ourselves like <u><strong>Cristo Redentor- the huge statue of Christ the Redeemer spreading his arms on top of the mountain in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. We become the true untouchables-“The real Brahmins”</strong>.</u></span></span> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Now the question arises, how can we become the “Five thief whisperers”?</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There is only one way to do that. That is we must use Gurbani as the catalyst to use our inner energy in a positive manner.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">With a lead pencil, one can draw like Sobha Singh or Leonardo da Vinci or one can kill a person. It is the same energy. So if we use SGGS,our only GURU as the catalyst then we can all become Sobha Singhs and Leonardos. Or even better, we can all become <u><strong>Nanaks</strong></u>.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Arshi ji, Thank you very much for allowing me to think aloud with the help of your great essay.</span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Tejwant Singh</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Cristo Redentor- Christ The redeemer. Rio de Janeiro- Brasil.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 114731, member: 138"] [FONT=Verdana]Arshi ji, Guru Fateh. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]A very good synopsis on one's life as an individual and the ill traits we carry which can become the beasts of burden if not tackled with the help of SGGS, our ONLY GURU. Before I begin to comment on this wonderful thought, I would like to make one thing very clear. There is no mal intention or any criticism intended nor is it directed towards any of your points. My thoughts are just my own personal observations which can also be contested by any of the fellow members including yourself. This is the only way, we, as Sikhs can learn by breeding open mindedness. As they say, “one can not embrace the world with one's arms crossed”. Sikhi teaches us to open our arms which in return help us come out of our own self created fetal positions no matter how much we have grown from the outside. So, I apologise in advance for any indiscretions that one may find in my comments because I am as fallible as others, if not more. The Title: [B]VIRTUES AND [U]EVILS[/U][/B] For me, Evil is the word used and practiced in the dogmatic religions such as the Semitic ones and also in the Hinduism and in its mythology a lot. Allow me to give you a few examples:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]From the OT which is part of the Scriptures for the Jews and the Christians.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will thrust you through, smash your children to pieces before your eyes, and rape your wife. Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]God said to the others, Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children." (Ezekiel 9:5-6)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]GOD created perfect EVIL (Ezekiel 28:15).[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]There are many more examples in the Holy Bible like that.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Now let’s check the way Evil in the Holy Quran[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] In fact, the Quran says it is Satan who does:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] O men, eat of what is in the earth lawful and good; and follow not the steps of Satan; he is a manifest foe to you. [I]He only commands you to evil and indecency[/I], and that you should speak against God such things as you know not. S. 2:168-169[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] The Quran further says that Allah does not destroy any city unjustly:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] That is because thy Lord would never destroy the cities unjustly, while their inhabitants were heedless. S. 6:131[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] Yet we are told elsewhere that Allah does indeed command wickedness and indecency:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] And when We desire to destroy a city, [I][U]WE COMMAND[/U][/I][U] its men who live at ease, [I]AND THEY COMMIT UNGODLINESS[/I] therein[/U], then the Word is realized against it, and We destroy it utterly. S. 17:16[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] In Hinduism we know the Evil ritual of Sati which Guru Nanak abolished. The story of Dropti shows the evil and we also know the story about Bhagat Prahlad in SGGS and many other stories and parables mentioned about evil in the SGGS, our ONLY GURU.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Evil was also committed on the Sikhs in 1947 and in 1984.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]But Sikhi does not believe, nor does it propagate Evil.To the contrary. It is all about Love which can only happen when we Love the Nirbhau and Nirvair- Ik Ong Kaar.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]So, I would rather use the phrase ill-traits for the five thieves than evil. In fact you did mention them as negative traits- which is the same as ill traits, ( the five thieves) in your first 2 lines but again your changed them to [U][B]five Evils[/B][/U]. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Yes, I agree with you that these five thieves-ill traits are the roadblocks in our Gurmat lives but the good thing is that with the help SGGS as our tool box they can be converted into mere bumps on the road of our Gurmat Marg.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] In other words, one, with the help of SGGS can use these stumbling blocks and turn them into stepping stones by lassoing these five thieves and talking control of them. There is an interesting program that you may have watched on the National Geography Channel called “The Dog Whisperer” in which the host Cesar Millan teaches both the dogs and their owners how to take control of the animals rather than the other way around. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]So, these 5 thieves are like spoiled pets one can say and we should train ourselves with the help of SGGS how to get control of them and use them to our advantage. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]In other words, we have to become the “Five thief whisperers” using SGGS as our only guide.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]One more thing I would like to clarify is that my questions are not directed to you in my post but I am thinking aloud to understand myself about this important subject.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]You write:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]1. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]I would like to know how does a child become Manmukh? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]2. Do the parents play any role in him/her becoming so? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]3. If the parents realize that on time, is there a remedy where he/she can also become a seeker? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]4. How can we as parents reject someone who was in his/her mother’s womb for nine months and was breastfed the same way as the other one? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]5. Who are his real guides? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]We all know what happens to the Gurmukh but isn’t it our duty as parents and with the help of SGGS to turn all our kids into Gurmukhs? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]If they do not turn to be like that, I think the fault lies in us as parents and our lack of parenting skills, not with our children whom we are quick to label as Manmukhs .[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]A Sikh means a student, a learner, a seeker. So, I am a bit confused by your assertion above of someone being a non-Sikh, meaning not a learner. I am sure you do not mean that by calling other people whose Gurbani is in SGGS as non- Sikhs. All whose Gurbani is included in the SGGS were Sikhs because they love the only ONE SOURCE which is IK ONG KAAR[/FONT][FONT=Verdana].[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [B]1. Kaam (lust).[/B][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I agree with you on this that it should be only practiced between the married couples but not solely for procreation because humans are the only animals that do not have specific time of the year to mate. So, love making with the one that one loves can strengthen and solidify the relationship and companionship, especially when we grow old and the sexual lust dissipates, however the moments spent in the past cement the relationship in the later stage of the couple’s lives. [/FONT] [B][FONT=Verdana]2. Krodh[/FONT][/B][FONT=Verdana]: [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Krodh is actually anger that breeds disdain and hatred which is a very negative trait. Krodh makes us find faults in others in order to hide ours. It is a negative proactive approach which creates submission and repression. Krodh also breeds vengeance and leaves no room for forgiveness. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Little does the Krodhi know that Forgiveness [COLOR=black]exists only in the mind of the forgiver, and therefore requires no "acceptance".[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [B]3. Lobh (Greed[/B][/FONT][B][FONT=Verdana])[/FONT][/B][FONT=Verdana].[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]There is a very thin line between lobh (greed) and necessity. Abraham Maslow’s triangle of self actualization shows this quite well. And one tends to cross this like a rope skipper which happens quite often. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Is making money bad? The more money one makes as a business man for example, more employees one can hire and help others in this way. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Is giving the best education to our kids bad? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Is working to the best of our abilities, provided one does not step on other people’s toes bad? [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]If all these good traits can bring wealth which can help others, then there is nothing wrong with that but it is all positive. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Only truthful living can teach us how not to cross the line but to widen it with the help of our tool box, SGGS.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Verdana]4. Moh.[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Verdana]I would call moh more than attachment. Allow me to coin a phrase for Moh- [B]Salivating uncontrollable desire[/B]- [B]a mental gluttony[/B]. It can also be in a physical hunger when our eyes become bigger than our tummies and we stuff ourselves till we are ready to explode and then grab for antacid to soothe our discomfort driven by this physical moh which leads to obesity. I heard some of the obese pilgrims on their annual mechanical rituals to go to Hemkunt Sahib died of heart attacks because of too much moh wrapped around their guts.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Moh also gets intertwined with lobh where we start competing for a bigger house,better cars, bigger diamond studded Khandas around our necks and longer and bigger necklaces with better jewels than our friendly neighbours, [U][B]the other [/B][B]Singhs[/B][/U]. Yes, once it becomes a rat race, there is no way of turning back. We all look like obese people, both from the outside and the inside unable to walk towards the Gurmat path, neither physically nor mentally because we have buried ourselves with the gaudy heavy jewels and the lard, both accumulated with the help of moh and lobh.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] In my opinion, the word detachment does not do any justice to the antidote of Moh laced with Lobh. Allow me to coin another phrase to express myself[U][B]- disciplined empathy[/B][/U]. It is impossible to detach ourselves from these 5 thieves which are part and parcel of the human creation. They all dwell in us. We have to train ourselves with the help of SGGS to control them rather than being controlled by them. As mentioned earlier, we have to become the “ The five thief whisperers” 24-7 which does not require detachment but continuous handling of the 5 leashes.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Verdana]5. Hunkaar or Houmai—Me-ism[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Verdana]The intercourse among [COLOR=black]Kaam, Krodh, Lobh and Moh gives birth to Hunkaar-[U][B]me-ism[/B][/U] where[U][B]- I, me-[/B][/U] become not only the cornerstone of one’s life but they help one build a huge portal to welcome the like minded born out of the same gestation. [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Self becomes the only thing that matters rather than [U][B]“Tunhee, Tunhee”[/B][/U]. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]We become infallible. We project ourselves like [U][B]Cristo Redentor- the huge statue of Christ the Redeemer spreading his arms on top of the mountain in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. We become the true untouchables-“The real Brahmins”[/B].[/U][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Verdana] Now the question arises, how can we become the “Five thief whisperers”?[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]There is only one way to do that. That is we must use Gurbani as the catalyst to use our inner energy in a positive manner.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]With a lead pencil, one can draw like Sobha Singh or Leonardo da Vinci or one can kill a person. It is the same energy. So if we use SGGS,our only GURU as the catalyst then we can all become Sobha Singhs and Leonardos. Or even better, we can all become [U][B]Nanaks[/B][/U].[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Arshi ji, Thank you very much for allowing me to think aloud with the help of your great essay.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Tejwant Singh[/FONT] [B][FONT=Verdana]Cristo Redentor- Christ The redeemer. Rio de Janeiro- Brasil.[/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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