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<blockquote data-quote="roopk" data-source="post: 55316" data-attributes="member: 4845"><p><a href="http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion.nsf/78f5a2ff8906d1788725657c00732d6c/b526f98553b0105b87256a0b007e75e2!OpenDocument" target="_blank">Understanding Guru Granth Sahib</a></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: blue">I have made an effort to place as much material related to Mol Mantra at one point for a reference work in future .If you have anything that youwould like to share you may as well post here.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">Sikhs: The State We Are In </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">One of the most compelling Preface I have ever read on Sikh articles was written by theLate Gurcharan Singh Khalsa Journalist In the Preview of the book Gurmat Vichar written by Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon In 1985 He wrote:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Todays reciting of GGS is like "Mantra" , everywhere in the world series of Akhand Path ,Sahej Path are going on ,targets are being set for numbers and ready made Paths are available at a price. Pathis. are doing Path for the sake of money and the person who is getting it done thinks that by spending money he is following his Dharma. No attempts is being made to Understand the teachings of GGS and have its message within our minds. The real tragedy is that they are completely ignorant about the whole thing .Ragis and Parcharkar are being paid for their performance. Its often seen then when we do MATHA TEK ,we not only place money infront of GGS but at the same time give money to Ragis as if this is the part of sikh customs. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Special fuctions are held on SANGRAD , as if we worship Suraj Devta.? </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Greatest A to Z of Spiritual work ever produced and we can only pay true respect by following its teachings and not by any rituals. In our daily life whenever we want to go from one place to another we plan a route and start our journey to reach our destination. By simply reciting the route and not following it we can never get to our destination. However no attempts are being made to map out our spiritual journey . The object of this article is to highlight the true meanings of some of the common words used in The Guru Granth Sahib to enable the reader to understand the message of God.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">AIMS AND OBJECTIVES : To be one with God</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Guru Nanak Ji tells us that water from any part of the world is mixable and when you mix water from different parts of the world you can?t distinguish which one came from where. If you try mixing water from different sources and then you are asked to separate these you can?t do that . Similarly we have to have same qualities as Waheguru so that our soul get immersed with Waheguru and then and only then we will be unseparable from God.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Nanak Leen Bhaiyo Gobind Main ,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jeyo Paani Sang Paani?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( To be one with God like water )</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Bohat Janam Bicherey Thea </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Madho Ehh Janam Tumarey Lekheay?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Oh my Lord for long my soul is separated from you, I wish to devote my entire life so that I can be one with you)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Gobind Milan Ke Eho Tere Barria?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Human life is the only time in which we can stop Ava Gavan , a cycle of birth and death. And be one with our Lord)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The above quotes from GGS defines the ultimate aim of a Sikh or any human being</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Har Jan Aissa Chaiyee </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jaisa Har He Hoi </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(We are instructed to acquire the qualities or the attributes of Waheguru )</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">This is the objective of all human being and sikhs in particular.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Having defined aims and objectives we need to look at GGS to see how we can achieve our goals.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Mode Of Operations : What do we need to do.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Naam Simran is the only way we can acquire some of the qualities of Guruji.Even GGS does not claim to know Him fully</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tumre Gat Mit Tum Hee Janee</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Nanak Das Sadda Kurbanee</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Each one of Waheguruji Name represents one of his qualities ,let?s choose one of HIS names and One of HIS Attributes and mediate. GGS uses over 730 different names such as Narain, Gobind, Madho, Thakur, Abnashi , Brahmgiani Saad,Sant etc.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Sahib Merea Meharavan , Jee Sagal Ko Devey Daan </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tu Kahey Doley Parania Tujhe Rakhey Ga Sirjan Haar</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(My Lord is ever so Merciful ,He is the provider of everything, why do you worry Lord is there to do the best for you).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon chose "Waheguru Tu Meharvan Hain" as a line for his meditation., which I like very much because GGS says:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tere Gun Gava Te Bhujayee </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">This is the only way we can acquire the attributes of Lord and full fill the aim of our life.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">MUNN- and its definition</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Sikhism is a Universal Religion , the reason for this matter is that its teaching are applicable to the entire mankind. The teaching of GGS are for our MIND or in Punjabi its called ?Munn? (Do not confuse it with mood or heart). According to Mool Mantra, Waheguru is omnipresent , timeless , formless , it has no shape ,form and for that matter Feet ,Heart etc. God is Invisible and He resides in all of us To have a relationship with invisible Waheguru ji ,only an invisible thing in our body can have a relationship and that only invisible non pershible element is Munn- or collection of thought.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets see if this statement agrees with GGS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Hey Munn Merea Tu Sadda Ro Har Naley</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(we are being instructed to be mediate God ,all the times)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">MUNN too Jote Saroop Hain Apna Mool Pachan</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Munn Mere Gur Ke Bhanney Chall</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">This is a piece of advise to the mind to follow Gurujis instructions.The entire Guru Granth Sahib's instructions are for the Munn to follow as this is the only invisible thing which can have relationship with Guru Ji.(short form of The Guru Granth Sahib)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">WHO IS A SIKH </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong>A definition of a Sikh can be obtained from GGS </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAT GUR KA JO SIKH AKHAEY ,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BHALKEY UTH HAR NAM DEHAWAY.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Sikh is a person who mediates upon His name and one of His attributes all the times)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">So Sikh Sakha Bandap Hai Bhai </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jo Gur Ke Bhaney Vich Aveay (True sikh is a person who surrenders completely to the will of Lord)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">Amrit Vela</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">AMRIT VELA SUCH NOUN VADAYEE VICHAR</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong>(It simply means whenever you mediate His name its Amrit Vela .The line should be read in two parts the first is </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">What is Amrit Vela , and the answer is </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Such Noun Vadayee Vichar</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Which simply means wherever you think of that ?Sucha? Waheguru , it is Amrit Vela</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">AMRIT AND ITS MEANING </span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">According to Guru Granth Sahib the Amrit can be accessed by following the teachings inscribed in Guru Granth Sahib ji as demonstrated below:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Nanak Amrit Ek Hain </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Dooja Amrit Nahin? --- GGS-1238</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets look at what is this one and only one Amrit from different quotes from GGS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jhim Jhim V{censored}y Amrit Dhaara_ </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Munn Peevay Sunn Shabad Vichara? ---GGS 102</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Peevay Amrit Saada Raahey Har Rang,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Japeyo Sarang Paani---GGS 920</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Sarang Paani means one who is the provider of everything ie Waheguru)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Its clear from above quotes that the foremost important is that Amrit is to be derived by deliberations and mediating upon His name. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Ganga Jal Gobind Gur Naam </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Wahegurus name is the holy water ).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>GURU, SADD, SANT , SATGURU, BRAHMGIANI, ARE THE DIFFERENT NAMES OF WAHEGURU</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong></strong></span>Quite often these names are used for people whereas careful study of GGS will reveal that these are different names of God and there is no person to whom any of these titles can be bestowed.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">GURU</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The word ?GURU ?used in Guru Granth Sahib refers to WAHEGURU ..</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">According to Guru Granth Sahib , ?GURU ?is defined as</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Bani Guru ,Guru Hai Bani ,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Vich Bani Amrit Sarey</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">SAAD AND SANT</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong>( commonly and incorrectly used for saint/ holy man in sikh teaching)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets look at quotes from Sukhmani </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD KE SOBHA KA NAHEE ANNT?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(nobody can gauge the Saad)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD KE MEHMA BEAD NA JANNEAY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(No Holy book can explain all the attributes of God and even GGS accepts its inability to do so)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD KE SOBHA OOCH TE OOCHEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( SAAD is higher than highest you can think of)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD KE SANG SAAB HOTE NABERA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( In the company of God , I gain my ultimate aim of life ie become one with God)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD SANG EHH HOMMEY CHOOREEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">AND CHAR PADARATH JAY KO MAANGEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAAD JANNA KE SEWA LAAGEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SANT KE SEWA , NAAM DEHAAYEA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(The Sewa of God is mediation)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SANT PRATAP DURMAT SABB NASSEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Only with blessings of Sant , I follow godly path ,which is opposite of Durmat) </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">SATGURU</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Satguru Mera Sadda Sadda</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Na Awvey na Jaye</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Oh Abnasi Purakh Hain </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Sab Mai Rahia Samay</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Satguru is for ever ,He never takes birth and He is immortal)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Can any living human claim to have such properties ,I for one don't think so .</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">From above it can be concluded that Word Saad , Sant , Satguru, etc are different names used for Waheguru ,and in this agrees, with quotes from Sukmani</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">NANAK , SAAD KE SOBHA </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">PRABH MAAH SAAMNEE </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Waheguru is Saad Himself ) </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">APPEAY JANNEAY SAAD VADYEE</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">NANAK SAAD PRABHU BUNN AAYEE</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI :</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Here again I submit the various quotes from Sukmani in support of my understanding that word Brahmgiani is also another name for God.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI OOCH TE OOCHA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Brahmgiani is higher than highest)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">See the similarity of this quote with ?Saad Ke Sobha Ooch Te Oochi?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI KA NAHI BINAS </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Brahmgiani is indestructible or not effected by time )</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI TE KUCH BURRA NA HOOVEY</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Brahmgiani whatever does for us is good for us)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Compare this quote from GGS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">JO TUDD BHAVEY NANKA </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAYEE BHALLIKAR</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Says Nanak Oh Lord whatever you do for us is the best)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">APP NIRANKAR </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Brahmgiani is God Himself)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">NANAK , BRAHMGIANI </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">JAAPEY SAGAL SANSAR</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(The entire world worships Him)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">NANAK ,BRAHMGIANI APP PARMESAR</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI SARAB KA THAKKAR</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Brahmgiani is God of this Universe)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Perhaps the most powerful and beyond any doubt is the quote which proves that Brahmgiani is another name of Waheguru Ji</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">BRAHMGIANI SAADA JEEVEY NAHI MARTA</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Brahmgiani is immortal )</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">In my mind such properties can only be attributed to Waheguru as no living person can possess such high qualities</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SOORA , WHO QUALIFIES TO BE ONE</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jako Har Rang Laaga Iss Jugg Main</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">So Kaheitey Hai Soora</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">This is translated as ,In this spiritual world a? Soora? is a person who is absorbed and immersed in thoughts and the attributes of Waheguru ji.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">With this definition of Soora, lets look at Kabir Jis Quote from GGS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Soora So Pahchaney Jo Larrey Deen Key Hait</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Purja Purja Kut Murrey Kabhey, Kubhu Na Charrae Khet</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">I translate second line first which means</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Purja Purja it spiritual sense it means to have control over Five Thieves within our selves ie Kam,Karod,Lobe,Mohe and Hankara</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">( Iss Dahey Main Panch Chore Basat Hai-----GGS)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">and first line </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">This means one who surrenders completely to Waheguru Jis will and lead the life as per Guru Ji instructions.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Looking at these two quotes I can deduce that ?Soora? is a person who is a Gursikh and abide by the doctrines of Sikhisms</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange">SIMRAN and why should we meditate</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange"></span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">If you want daily Amrit ,then Simran is exactly you have to do.By this GGS does not mean that start reciting,singing or reading these lines but like all instructions we read and start practicing.You can?t learn swimming by reading it, you have to get down in the pool and practice what you have read in the manual.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">REGEIME AND POLITICS</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Our 5th Guru ,Gobind Singh ji wrote</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Raj Na Chahoo Mukat Na Chahoo</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(I neither want kingdom nor I want Mukti ,my only desire is to follow my Wahegurus instructions)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Our 10th Guru fought for the human rights but never retained an inch of land or establish himself as King.There are lessons for the entire mankind to learn frrom him.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets look at another quote </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Raj , Binna Dharam Na Challey Hai</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(No regieme can be perfect unless it is run on Wahegurus instruction ,equality and justice for all.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">SANGAT</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Sangat Aisi Janeeyo Jitho Eko Naam </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Sagat is where only Waheguru Thought in your mind,now where that can be ofcourse in company of Waheguru Ji</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Prabh Simran Me App Nirankara</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">and </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Vich Sangat Prabh Vassey</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">In the company of Waheguru ,He himself is present</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">and Bani Guru ,Guru Hai Bani</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">We know the meaning of Saad and Sangat ,combining the two together becomes Saad Sangat or the company of God.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange">WAHEGURUS FEET, CHARAN ,PALLA,CHARAN DHOOR</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="color: darkorange"></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">From Mool Mantra we know God does not have form,He is Timeless then, in spiritual sense can only mean that Gods message is for forever and time cant bring any change.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The questions comes to the mind then what is meant by SAAD Ke Charan ,Charan Dhoor ,Tere Charan Vich, etc in GGS.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">SAJAN TERE CHARAN KE </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">HOEAY RAHHA SADD DHOOR</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The word Sajan here refers to Waheguru and not to any friend.If Waheguru has no feet then you cant be under His feet or be part of that dust. In spiritual sense I translate this line</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Waheguru I would always like to be immersed with your Shabad ie in your thought (Thy Name and one of Your Attributes) </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets look at another quote</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Gur Ke Charan Dhooey Dhooey Peeva</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(I meditate upon His shabad)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">My conclusion is words such as SAAD KE BACCHAN, SAAD DA PALLA ,SAAD KE </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">CHARAN ,SADHU KE DHOOR ,mean Shabad and nothing else.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Late Sant Sujan Singh described Sant Ka Palla as shabad </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">When Bhai Ji in Gurudawara says " Sat Guru De Charna Da Dhian Dhar Ke Boley Ji? suerely he is refering to Shabad and nothing else.If you Immerse yourself completely in Wahegurus Shabad ,it would make better sense.Otherwise people like me will always be looking for Feet and Dust and surely Guru Ji never wanted us to do this.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">TIRATH YATRA or PILGRIMAGE </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Lets look at the following lines from GGS and then ask ourselves that in view of such clear and power conclusions ,would any of our 10 gurus have created such pilgrimages . A religion which beleives there is only one God and also says "Na Humm Hindu Na Musalaman" and in todays extension Jews,Christian etc. can create no such thing.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Ghar Main Saab Kuch Bahar Nahin</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Everything is within yourbody ,oh my mind do not wander off to far places in search of Him)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tirath Barat Aur Dan Kar , Munn Mein Karrey Guman</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(no ritual is of any use if you have not purified your munn or collection of thoughts which comes only from mediating on Thy Name and Attributes as explained below again a line from GGS)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tirath Navan Jawoo</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tirath Naam Hain</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Here a question is being asked , go for pilgrimage and then answer is in next line Tirath is mediation Upon His name/Attributes.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Atth Satth Tirath Jaey Naavey </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Uttrey Nahin Maael</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(Even if you go to sixty eight holy places for holy bath ,by simply going there ,you can not get rid off of your five evils)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Anik Tirath Jey Jatan Kare</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Ta Anter Ke Homey Na Jayee </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jaeon Antar Mailaa Havo</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Tirath Bhave Disantar Loye</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Nank Milley Satguru Sang </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">(If you do not keep the company of God ie Naam Simran ,you can never be one with God ,even if you go on pilgrigame to many countries.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">In no uncertain terms Guruji forbids us going to Titarths.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange">Acknowledgements :</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong><span style="color: darkorange"></span></strong>Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon ?Gurmat Vichar? plus various articles written by him.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Prof.Harminder Singh ; Misinterpretations in Sikhism?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Late Prof.Sahib Singh ,Translation of GGS in Punjabi</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Late Raghbir Singh Bir Bandagi Naama </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="roopk, post: 55316, member: 4845"] [url=http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion.nsf/78f5a2ff8906d1788725657c00732d6c/b526f98553b0105b87256a0b007e75e2!OpenDocument]Understanding Guru Granth Sahib[/url] [FONT=Georgia][COLOR=blue]I have made an effort to place as much material related to Mol Mantra at one point for a reference work in future .If you have anything that youwould like to share you may as well post here.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]Sikhs: The State We Are In [/COLOR][/B] One of the most compelling Preface I have ever read on Sikh articles was written by theLate Gurcharan Singh Khalsa Journalist In the Preview of the book Gurmat Vichar written by Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon In 1985 He wrote: Todays reciting of GGS is like "Mantra" , everywhere in the world series of Akhand Path ,Sahej Path are going on ,targets are being set for numbers and ready made Paths are available at a price. Pathis. are doing Path for the sake of money and the person who is getting it done thinks that by spending money he is following his Dharma. No attempts is being made to Understand the teachings of GGS and have its message within our minds. The real tragedy is that they are completely ignorant about the whole thing .Ragis and Parcharkar are being paid for their performance. Its often seen then when we do MATHA TEK ,we not only place money infront of GGS but at the same time give money to Ragis as if this is the part of sikh customs. Special fuctions are held on SANGRAD , as if we worship Suraj Devta.? The Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Greatest A to Z of Spiritual work ever produced and we can only pay true respect by following its teachings and not by any rituals. In our daily life whenever we want to go from one place to another we plan a route and start our journey to reach our destination. By simply reciting the route and not following it we can never get to our destination. However no attempts are being made to map out our spiritual journey . The object of this article is to highlight the true meanings of some of the common words used in The Guru Granth Sahib to enable the reader to understand the message of God. [B][COLOR=darkorange]AIMS AND OBJECTIVES : To be one with God[/COLOR][/B] Guru Nanak Ji tells us that water from any part of the world is mixable and when you mix water from different parts of the world you can?t distinguish which one came from where. If you try mixing water from different sources and then you are asked to separate these you can?t do that . Similarly we have to have same qualities as Waheguru so that our soul get immersed with Waheguru and then and only then we will be unseparable from God. Nanak Leen Bhaiyo Gobind Main , Jeyo Paani Sang Paani? ( To be one with God like water ) Bohat Janam Bicherey Thea Madho Ehh Janam Tumarey Lekheay? (Oh my Lord for long my soul is separated from you, I wish to devote my entire life so that I can be one with you) Gobind Milan Ke Eho Tere Barria? (Human life is the only time in which we can stop Ava Gavan , a cycle of birth and death. And be one with our Lord) The above quotes from GGS defines the ultimate aim of a Sikh or any human being Har Jan Aissa Chaiyee Jaisa Har He Hoi (We are instructed to acquire the qualities or the attributes of Waheguru ) This is the objective of all human being and sikhs in particular. Having defined aims and objectives we need to look at GGS to see how we can achieve our goals. Mode Of Operations : What do we need to do. Naam Simran is the only way we can acquire some of the qualities of Guruji.Even GGS does not claim to know Him fully Tumre Gat Mit Tum Hee Janee Nanak Das Sadda Kurbanee Each one of Waheguruji Name represents one of his qualities ,let?s choose one of HIS names and One of HIS Attributes and mediate. GGS uses over 730 different names such as Narain, Gobind, Madho, Thakur, Abnashi , Brahmgiani Saad,Sant etc. Sahib Merea Meharavan , Jee Sagal Ko Devey Daan Tu Kahey Doley Parania Tujhe Rakhey Ga Sirjan Haar (My Lord is ever so Merciful ,He is the provider of everything, why do you worry Lord is there to do the best for you). Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon chose "Waheguru Tu Meharvan Hain" as a line for his meditation., which I like very much because GGS says: : Tere Gun Gava Te Bhujayee This is the only way we can acquire the attributes of Lord and full fill the aim of our life. [/FONT][B][FONT=Georgia]MUNN- and its definition [/FONT] [/B][FONT=Georgia]Sikhism is a Universal Religion , the reason for this matter is that its teaching are applicable to the entire mankind. The teaching of GGS are for our MIND or in Punjabi its called ?Munn? (Do not confuse it with mood or heart). According to Mool Mantra, Waheguru is omnipresent , timeless , formless , it has no shape ,form and for that matter Feet ,Heart etc. God is Invisible and He resides in all of us To have a relationship with invisible Waheguru ji ,only an invisible thing in our body can have a relationship and that only invisible non pershible element is Munn- or collection of thought. Lets see if this statement agrees with GGS Hey Munn Merea Tu Sadda Ro Har Naley (we are being instructed to be mediate God ,all the times) MUNN too Jote Saroop Hain Apna Mool Pachan Munn Mere Gur Ke Bhanney Chall This is a piece of advise to the mind to follow Gurujis instructions.The entire Guru Granth Sahib's instructions are for the Munn to follow as this is the only invisible thing which can have relationship with Guru Ji.(short form of The Guru Granth Sahib) [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]WHO IS A SIKH [/COLOR][/B]A definition of a Sikh can be obtained from GGS SAT GUR KA JO SIKH AKHAEY , BHALKEY UTH HAR NAM DEHAWAY. (Sikh is a person who mediates upon His name and one of His attributes all the times) So Sikh Sakha Bandap Hai Bhai Jo Gur Ke Bhaney Vich Aveay (True sikh is a person who surrenders completely to the will of Lord) [B][COLOR=darkorange]Amrit Vela[/COLOR][/B] [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]AMRIT VELA SUCH NOUN VADAYEE VICHAR [/COLOR][/B](It simply means whenever you mediate His name its Amrit Vela .The line should be read in two parts the first is What is Amrit Vela , and the answer is Such Noun Vadayee Vichar Which simply means wherever you think of that ?Sucha? Waheguru , it is Amrit Vela [B][COLOR=darkorange]AMRIT AND ITS MEANING [/COLOR][/B] According to Guru Granth Sahib the Amrit can be accessed by following the teachings inscribed in Guru Granth Sahib ji as demonstrated below: Nanak Amrit Ek Hain Dooja Amrit Nahin? --- GGS-1238 Lets look at what is this one and only one Amrit from different quotes from GGS Jhim Jhim V{censored}y Amrit Dhaara_ Munn Peevay Sunn Shabad Vichara? ---GGS 102 Peevay Amrit Saada Raahey Har Rang, Japeyo Sarang Paani---GGS 920 (Sarang Paani means one who is the provider of everything ie Waheguru) Its clear from above quotes that the foremost important is that Amrit is to be derived by deliberations and mediating upon His name. Ganga Jal Gobind Gur Naam (Wahegurus name is the holy water ). [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=darkorange][B]GURU, SADD, SANT , SATGURU, BRAHMGIANI, ARE THE DIFFERENT NAMES OF WAHEGURU [/B][/COLOR]Quite often these names are used for people whereas careful study of GGS will reveal that these are different names of God and there is no person to whom any of these titles can be bestowed. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]GURU [/COLOR][/B] The word ?GURU ?used in Guru Granth Sahib refers to WAHEGURU .. According to Guru Granth Sahib , ?GURU ?is defined as Bani Guru ,Guru Hai Bani , Vich Bani Amrit Sarey [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]SAAD AND SANT [/COLOR][/B]( commonly and incorrectly used for saint/ holy man in sikh teaching) Lets look at quotes from Sukhmani SAAD KE SOBHA KA NAHEE ANNT? (nobody can gauge the Saad) SAAD KE MEHMA BEAD NA JANNEAY (No Holy book can explain all the attributes of God and even GGS accepts its inability to do so) SAAD KE SOBHA OOCH TE OOCHEY ( SAAD is higher than highest you can think of) SAAD KE SANG SAAB HOTE NABERA ( In the company of God , I gain my ultimate aim of life ie become one with God) SAAD SANG EHH HOMMEY CHOOREEY AND CHAR PADARATH JAY KO MAANGEY SAAD JANNA KE SEWA LAAGEY SANT KE SEWA , NAAM DEHAAYEA (The Sewa of God is mediation) SANT PRATAP DURMAT SABB NASSEY ( Only with blessings of Sant , I follow godly path ,which is opposite of Durmat) [B][COLOR=darkorange]SATGURU[/COLOR][/B] Satguru Mera Sadda Sadda Na Awvey na Jaye Oh Abnasi Purakh Hain Sab Mai Rahia Samay (Satguru is for ever ,He never takes birth and He is immortal) Can any living human claim to have such properties ,I for one don't think so . From above it can be concluded that Word Saad , Sant , Satguru, etc are different names used for Waheguru ,and in this agrees, with quotes from Sukmani NANAK , SAAD KE SOBHA PRABH MAAH SAAMNEE (Waheguru is Saad Himself ) APPEAY JANNEAY SAAD VADYEE NANAK SAAD PRABHU BUNN AAYEE BRAHMGIANI : Here again I submit the various quotes from Sukmani in support of my understanding that word Brahmgiani is also another name for God. BRAHMGIANI OOCH TE OOCHA (Brahmgiani is higher than highest) See the similarity of this quote with ?Saad Ke Sobha Ooch Te Oochi? BRAHMGIANI KA NAHI BINAS ( Brahmgiani is indestructible or not effected by time ) BRAHMGIANI TE KUCH BURRA NA HOOVEY (Brahmgiani whatever does for us is good for us) Compare this quote from GGS JO TUDD BHAVEY NANKA SAYEE BHALLIKAR ( Says Nanak Oh Lord whatever you do for us is the best) BRAHMGIANI APP NIRANKAR (Brahmgiani is God Himself) NANAK , BRAHMGIANI JAAPEY SAGAL SANSAR (The entire world worships Him) NANAK ,BRAHMGIANI APP PARMESAR BRAHMGIANI SARAB KA THAKKAR ( Brahmgiani is God of this Universe) Perhaps the most powerful and beyond any doubt is the quote which proves that Brahmgiani is another name of Waheguru Ji BRAHMGIANI SAADA JEEVEY NAHI MARTA ( Brahmgiani is immortal ) In my mind such properties can only be attributed to Waheguru as no living person can possess such high qualities SOORA , WHO QUALIFIES TO BE ONE Jako Har Rang Laaga Iss Jugg Main So Kaheitey Hai Soora This is translated as ,In this spiritual world a? Soora? is a person who is absorbed and immersed in thoughts and the attributes of Waheguru ji. With this definition of Soora, lets look at Kabir Jis Quote from GGS Soora So Pahchaney Jo Larrey Deen Key Hait Purja Purja Kut Murrey Kabhey, Kubhu Na Charrae Khet I translate second line first which means [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Purja Purja it spiritual sense it means to have control over Five Thieves within our selves ie Kam,Karod,Lobe,Mohe and Hankara ( Iss Dahey Main Panch Chore Basat Hai-----GGS) and first line This means one who surrenders completely to Waheguru Jis will and lead the life as per Guru Ji instructions. [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Looking at these two quotes I can deduce that ?Soora? is a person who is a Gursikh and abide by the doctrines of Sikhisms [/FONT] [B][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=darkorange]SIMRAN and why should we meditate [/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Georgia]If you want daily Amrit ,then Simran is exactly you have to do.By this GGS does not mean that start reciting,singing or reading these lines but like all instructions we read and start practicing.You can?t learn swimming by reading it, you have to get down in the pool and practice what you have read in the manual. [B][COLOR=darkorange]REGEIME AND POLITICS[/COLOR][/B] [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Our 5th Guru ,Gobind Singh ji wrote [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Raj Na Chahoo Mukat Na Chahoo (I neither want kingdom nor I want Mukti ,my only desire is to follow my Wahegurus instructions) [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Our 10th Guru fought for the human rights but never retained an inch of land or establish himself as King.There are lessons for the entire mankind to learn frrom him. Lets look at another quote Raj , Binna Dharam Na Challey Hai (No regieme can be perfect unless it is run on Wahegurus instruction ,equality and justice for all.) [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]SANGAT [/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Sangat Aisi Janeeyo Jitho Eko Naam Sagat is where only Waheguru Thought in your mind,now where that can be ofcourse in company of Waheguru Ji Prabh Simran Me App Nirankara and Vich Sangat Prabh Vassey In the company of Waheguru ,He himself is present and Bani Guru ,Guru Hai Bani We know the meaning of Saad and Sangat ,combining the two together becomes Saad Sangat or the company of God. [/FONT][B][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=darkorange]WAHEGURUS FEET, CHARAN ,PALLA,CHARAN DHOOR [/COLOR][/FONT][/B][FONT=Georgia]From Mool Mantra we know God does not have form,He is Timeless then, in spiritual sense can only mean that Gods message is for forever and time cant bring any change. The questions comes to the mind then what is meant by SAAD Ke Charan ,Charan Dhoor ,Tere Charan Vich, etc in GGS. SAJAN TERE CHARAN KE HOEAY RAHHA SADD DHOOR The word Sajan here refers to Waheguru and not to any friend.If Waheguru has no feet then you cant be under His feet or be part of that dust. In spiritual sense I translate this line Waheguru I would always like to be immersed with your Shabad ie in your thought (Thy Name and one of Your Attributes) Lets look at another quote Gur Ke Charan Dhooey Dhooey Peeva (I meditate upon His shabad) [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]My conclusion is words such as SAAD KE BACCHAN, SAAD DA PALLA ,SAAD KE [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]CHARAN ,SADHU KE DHOOR ,mean Shabad and nothing else. Late Sant Sujan Singh described Sant Ka Palla as shabad When Bhai Ji in Gurudawara says " Sat Guru De Charna Da Dhian Dhar Ke Boley Ji? suerely he is refering to Shabad and nothing else.If you Immerse yourself completely in Wahegurus Shabad ,it would make better sense.Otherwise people like me will always be looking for Feet and Dust and surely Guru Ji never wanted us to do this. TIRATH YATRA or PILGRIMAGE [/FONT][FONT=Georgia]Lets look at the following lines from GGS and then ask ourselves that in view of such clear and power conclusions ,would any of our 10 gurus have created such pilgrimages . A religion which beleives there is only one God and also says "Na Humm Hindu Na Musalaman" and in todays extension Jews,Christian etc. can create no such thing. Ghar Main Saab Kuch Bahar Nahin (Everything is within yourbody ,oh my mind do not wander off to far places in search of Him) Tirath Barat Aur Dan Kar , Munn Mein Karrey Guman (no ritual is of any use if you have not purified your munn or collection of thoughts which comes only from mediating on Thy Name and Attributes as explained below again a line from GGS) Tirath Navan Jawoo Tirath Naam Hain Here a question is being asked , go for pilgrimage and then answer is in next line Tirath is mediation Upon His name/Attributes. Atth Satth Tirath Jaey Naavey Uttrey Nahin Maael (Even if you go to sixty eight holy places for holy bath ,by simply going there ,you can not get rid off of your five evils) Anik Tirath Jey Jatan Kare Ta Anter Ke Homey Na Jayee Jaeon Antar Mailaa Havo Tirath Bhave Disantar Loye Nank Milley Satguru Sang (If you do not keep the company of God ie Naam Simran ,you can never be one with God ,even if you go on pilgrigame to many countries.) In no uncertain terms Guruji forbids us going to Titarths. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=darkorange]Acknowledgements : [/COLOR][/B]Giani Nasib Singh Dhillon ?Gurmat Vichar? plus various articles written by him. Prof.Harminder Singh ; Misinterpretations in Sikhism? Late Prof.Sahib Singh ,Translation of GGS in Punjabi Late Raghbir Singh Bir Bandagi Naama [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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