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True Honour (BoSKD 5)
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<blockquote data-quote="BhagatSingh" data-source="post: 174255" data-attributes="member: 2610"><p><u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Bani of Sant Kabir Das</span></u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">, Shabad #5, starts at the beginning of page 324.</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Introduction: Sant Kabir was often insulted by some ignoramuses as Saints often are. To them Kabir replies.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">Raag Gaurhi Kabir ji.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਬ ਹਮ ਏਕੋ ਏਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">When I understand the all-pervading Oneness</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਬ ਲੋਗਹ ਕਾਹੇ ਦੁਖੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">then why do people get upset? 1. </span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਮ ਅਪਤਹ ਅਪੁਨੀ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">I am dishonoured, I have lost all dignity.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਮਰੈ ਖੋਜਿ ਪਰਹੁ ਮਤਿ ਕੋਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">No one should go after what I have found. 1. Think about this.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਮ ਮੰਦੇ ਮੰਦੇ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I am bad and only bad in my mind.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਝ ਪਾਤਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਸਿਉ ਨਾਹੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I do not associate with anyone else.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਤਿ ਅਪਤਿ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਨਹੀ ਲਾਜ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I do not care about honour or dishonour.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਬ ਜਾਨਹੁਗੇ ਜਬ ਉਘਰੈਗੋ ਪਾਜ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">You will know when your own false display is exposed.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਪਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Kabir says, that honour, which Hari has approved, is true honour.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਰਬ ਤਿਆਗਿ ਭਜੁ ਕੇਵਲ ਰਾਮੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Give up everything, the search for honour and meditate only on Ram.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <u><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Summary</span></u></p><p> <span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Kabir says he derives his honour from Ram/Hari alone. He does not care about worldly honour as that is false. One may have it today and it maybe gone tomorrow. There is immense suffering created when one focuses too much on worldly honour, when one's sense of identity is derived from the material things, because these things do not last very long, and when they are gone, one cries out in pain. "When this happens to you then you will come to search for what I have found", says Kabir "Do not base your honour on worldly things, base it on Ram instead. It is much more stable."</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: DarkRed"><u><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Questions</span></u></span></p><p> <span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">1. In what ways do we let our sense of identity shift from God to the outside world?</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">2. What happens when that sense of identity is attacked?</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39271-thirst-for-god-boskd-4-a.html" target="_blank">Thirst for God (BoSKD 4)</a></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39175-god-the-water-boskd-3-a.html" target="_blank">God the Water (BoSKD 3)</a></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39141-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-2-a.html" target="_blank">Bani of Sant Kabir Das 2</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39118-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-1-a.html" target="_blank">Bani of Sant Kabir Das 1</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BhagatSingh, post: 174255, member: 2610"] [U][FONT=Verdana]Bani of Sant Kabir Das[/FONT][/U][FONT=Verdana], Shabad #5, starts at the beginning of page 324.[/FONT] [COLOR=DarkGreen][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen][FONT=Verdana]Introduction: Sant Kabir was often insulted by some ignoramuses as Saints often are. To them Kabir replies.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Mangal]Raag Gaurhi Kabir ji.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਜਬ ਹਮ ਏਕੋ ਏਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Mangal]When I understand the all-pervading Oneness[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਤਬ ਲੋਗਹ ਕਾਹੇ ਦੁਖੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Mangal]then why do people get upset? 1. [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਹਮ ਅਪਤਹ ਅਪੁਨੀ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Mangal]I am dishonoured, I have lost all dignity.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਹਮਰੈ ਖੋਜਿ ਪਰਹੁ ਮਤਿ ਕੋਈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]No one should go after what I have found. 1. Think about this.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਹਮ ਮੰਦੇ ਮੰਦੇ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]I am bad and only bad in my mind.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਝ ਪਾਤਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਸਿਉ ਨਾਹੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]I do not associate with anyone else.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਪਤਿ ਅਪਤਿ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਨਹੀ ਲਾਜ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]I do not care about honour or dishonour.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਤਬ ਜਾਨਹੁਗੇ ਜਬ ਉਘਰੈਗੋ ਪਾਜ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Mangal]You will know when your own false display is exposed.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਪਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]Kabir says, that honour, which Hari has approved, is true honour.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi]ਸਰਬ ਤਿਆਗਿ ਭਜੁ ਕੇਵਲ ਰਾਮੁ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal][/FONT] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Arial]Give up everything, the search for honour and meditate only on Ram.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [U][FONT=Arial]Summary[/FONT][/U] [COLOR=DarkGreen][FONT=Arial]Kabir says he derives his honour from Ram/Hari alone. He does not care about worldly honour as that is false. One may have it today and it maybe gone tomorrow. There is immense suffering created when one focuses too much on worldly honour, when one's sense of identity is derived from the material things, because these things do not last very long, and when they are gone, one cries out in pain. "When this happens to you then you will come to search for what I have found", says Kabir "Do not base your honour on worldly things, base it on Ram instead. It is much more stable."[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [COLOR=DarkRed][U][FONT=Arial]Questions[/FONT][/U][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial]1. In what ways do we let our sense of identity shift from God to the outside world?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial]2. What happens when that sense of identity is attacked?[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39271-thirst-for-god-boskd-4-a.html"]Thirst for God (BoSKD 4)[/URL] [FONT=Arial][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39175-god-the-water-boskd-3-a.html"]God the Water (BoSKD 3)[/URL] [/FONT][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39141-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-2-a.html"]Bani of Sant Kabir Das 2[/URL] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39118-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-1-a.html"]Bani of Sant Kabir Das 1[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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