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Gurmat Vichaar
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Translation: "Servant Nanak Has Realized God; He Sings The Lord's Praises Through The Actions He Doe
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<blockquote data-quote="Ishna" data-source="post: 176921" data-attributes="member: 2709"><p>Gurfateh</p><p></p><p>This shabad is at the very beginning of <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&fb=0&Param=82" target="_blank">ang 82</a>. This is Dr Sant Singh Khalsa's translation:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੰਤ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਸੰਤ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਨਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਜਨਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਣੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਵਿਣੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਈਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਭਾਈਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਹਰਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਿਨੈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਿਨੈ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਨ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਇਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪਾਇਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਨਾਉ </span></a>॥</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sanṯ janā viṇ bẖā▫ī▫ā har kinai na pā▫i▫ā nā▫o.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"><span style="font-size: 12px">Without the humble Saints, O Siblings of Destiny, no one has obtained the Lord's Name.</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਚਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਵਿਚਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਉਮੈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਹਉਮੈ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰਮ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਰਮ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਮਾਵਦੇ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਮਾਵਦੇ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਿਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਜਿਉ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵੇਸੁਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਵੇਸੁਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪੁਤੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪੁਤੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਿਨਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਨਿਨਾਉ </span></a>॥</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 12px">vicẖ ha▫umai karam kamāvḏe ji▫o vesu▫ā puṯ ninā▫o.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"><span style="font-size: 12px">Those who do their deeds in ego are like the prostitute's son, who has no name.</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਿਤਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪਿਤਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਤਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਜਾਤਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਤਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਤਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹੋਈਐ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਹੋਈਐ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਗੁਰੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਤੁਠਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਤੁਠਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰੇ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਰੇ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਸਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪਸਾਉ </span></a>॥</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Piṯā jāṯ ṯā ho▫ī▫ai gur ṯuṯẖā kare pasā▫o.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"><span style="font-size: 12px">The father's status is obtained only if the Guru is pleased and bestows His Favor.</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਡਭਾਗੀ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਵਡਭਾਗੀ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਗੁਰੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਇਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪਾਇਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਹਰਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਲਗਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਲਗਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਭਾਉ </span></a>॥</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 12px">vadbẖāgī gur pā▫i▫ā har ahinis lagā bẖā▫o.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"><span style="font-size: 12px">By great good fortune, the Guru is found; embrace love for the Lord, day and night.</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਨ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਜਨ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਨਕਿ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਨਾਨਕਿ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਛਾਣਿਆ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਪਛਾਣਿਆ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਹਰਿ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕੀਰਤਿ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕੀਰਤਿ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰਮ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਰਮ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਮਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0066cc">ਕਮਾਉ </span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0)">॥੨॥</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Jan Nānak barahm pacẖẖāṇi▫ā har kīraṯ karam kamā▫o. ||2||</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"><span style="font-size: 12px">Servant Nanak has realized God; he sings the Lord's Praises through the actions he does. ||2||</span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>The last tuk "Servant Nanak has realized God; he sings the Lord's Praises through the actions he does. ||2||" is translated by Bhai Manmohan Singh as:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #000080">Slave Nanak has realised the pervading Lord and he does the deed of singing God's praises.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>Members may be able to assist, please:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Which words in the original convey 'singing'?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Which translation do you feel is closer to the real meaning of the tuk: Dr ji's or Bhai ji's?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">How would you translate the tuk?</li> </ol><p>Many thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishna, post: 176921, member: 2709"] Gurfateh This shabad is at the very beginning of [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&fb=0&Param=82']ang 82[/URL]. This is Dr Sant Singh Khalsa's translation: [INDENT][SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੰਤ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਸੰਤ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਨਾ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਜਨਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਣੁ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਵਿਣੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਈਆ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਭਾਈਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਹਰਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਿਨੈ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਿਨੈ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਨ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਇਆ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪਾਇਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਉ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਨਾਉ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=3]Sanṯ janā viṇ bẖā▫ī▫ā har kinai na pā▫i▫ā nā▫o.[/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)][SIZE=3]Without the humble Saints, O Siblings of Destiny, no one has obtained the Lord's Name.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਚਿ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਵਿਚਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਉਮੈ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਹਉਮੈ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰਮ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਰਮ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਮਾਵਦੇ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਮਾਵਦੇ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਿਉ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਜਿਉ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵੇਸੁਆ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਵੇਸੁਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪੁਤੁ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪੁਤੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਿਨਾਉ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਨਿਨਾਉ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=3]vicẖ ha▫umai karam kamāvḏe ji▫o vesu▫ā puṯ ninā▫o.[/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)][SIZE=3]Those who do their deeds in ego are like the prostitute's son, who has no name.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਿਤਾ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪਿਤਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਤਿ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਜਾਤਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਤਾ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਤਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹੋਈਐ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਹੋਈਐ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਤੁਠਾ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਤੁਠਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰੇ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਰੇ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਸਾਉ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪਸਾਉ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=3]Piṯā jāṯ ṯā ho▫ī▫ai gur ṯuṯẖā kare pasā▫o.[/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)][SIZE=3]The father's status is obtained only if the Guru is pleased and bestows His Favor.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਡਭਾਗੀ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਵਡਭਾਗੀ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਇਆ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪਾਇਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਹਰਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਲਗਾ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਲਗਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਉ'][COLOR=#0066cc]ਭਾਉ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=3]vadbẖāgī gur pā▫i▫ā har ahinis lagā bẖā▫o.[/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)][SIZE=3]By great good fortune, the Guru is found; embrace love for the Lord, day and night.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [SIZE=3] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਨ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਜਨ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਨਕਿ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਨਾਨਕਿ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਛਾਣਿਆ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਪਛਾਣਿਆ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਰਿ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਹਰਿ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕੀਰਤਿ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕੀਰਤਿ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਰਮ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਰਮ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਮਾਉ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0066cc]ਕਮਾਉ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=rgb(128, 0, 0)]॥੨॥[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=3]Jan Nānak barahm pacẖẖāṇi▫ā har kīraṯ karam kamā▫o. ||2||[/SIZE] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)][SIZE=3]Servant Nanak has realized God; he sings the Lord's Praises through the actions he does. ||2||[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [/INDENT] The last tuk "Servant Nanak has realized God; he sings the Lord's Praises through the actions he does. ||2||" is translated by Bhai Manmohan Singh as: [INDENT][COLOR=#000080]Slave Nanak has realised the pervading Lord and he does the deed of singing God's praises.[/COLOR] [/INDENT] Members may be able to assist, please: [LIST=1] [*]Which words in the original convey 'singing'? [*]Which translation do you feel is closer to the real meaning of the tuk: Dr ji's or Bhai ji's? [*]How would you translate the tuk? [/LIST] Many thanks. [/QUOTE]
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Translation: "Servant Nanak Has Realized God; He Sings The Lord's Praises Through The Actions He Doe
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