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Translation By Swarn Singh Bains
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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 166889" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p>Ishna ji, a very intersting little discovery here!!!</p><p></p><p>It's nice to see a slightly different worded version.</p><p>I think this author has done very well and has given a simplified translation with more of an essence to it.</p><p>It is NOT more closer in terms of word for word as you ask, but from what I have read so far, it does seem of high value.</p><p></p><p>The problem that you can get with word for word is that it can move away from it's true intended meaning, especially with the many metaphors used.</p><p></p><p>You may not quite get what I mean, let me explain-</p><p></p><p>I understand it much better and realise how one can mislead because I've tried and still do attempt translating by myself. You may have seen a few of my attempts at the sukhmani sahib after Ambarsariaji's conclusions and in some other places.</p><p>Here, I did as close as a word for word that I possibly could by breaking down sentences to single words. However, the results can end up off track if you are not careful or you don't catch the true meaning or essence early enough. It also took me a long time, for an ashtpadi of 8 lines it could take a few hours very easily. BUT, I must applaud Ambarsaria ji for his very thorough method and careful approach. His results have been outstanding and difficult to fault, in fact, marvelous at times.-</p><p></p><p>I am not 1st language punjabi, so my vocab and reading skills are very limited and slow- just reading punjabi has been self taught, much after I was 25 years old!!! -so you can imagine!! After having attempts at doing word for word without reference to any teeka, I have learnt and realised just how easy it is to make a shabad apply in the incorrect manner, infact it makes sense to question 'is this what the guru's words meant ?' everytime that one actually proceeds with this task.</p><p></p><p>With the above mentioned, from what I have read so far, I find it very good to read along with any existing translations on srigranth.org .</p><p></p><p>FOR EXAMPLE in early japji where mention of the word of guru and some describing is given and mention of mythological figures like shiva, brahma, parvati, vishnu...etc..is 1stly touched upon and mentioned numerous times again throughout but with different contexts.....--Having a look, we can see-----</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗਾਵੀਐ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗਾਵੀਐ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੁਣੀਐ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਸੁਣੀਐ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮਨਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਮਨਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਰਖੀਐ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਰਖੀਐ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਉ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਭਾਉ </span></a>॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Gāvī▫ai suṇī▫ai man rakẖī▫ai bẖā▫o.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">Sing, and listen, and let your mind be filled with love.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦੁਖੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਦੁਖੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਰਹਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਪਰਹਰਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੁਖੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਸੁਖੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਘਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਘਰਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਲੈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਲੈ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਇ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜਾਇ </span></a>॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Ḏukẖ parhar sukẖ gẖar lai jā▫e.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">Your pain shall be sent far away, and peace shall come to your home.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਦੰ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਨਾਦੰ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵੇਦੰ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਵੇਦੰ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਰਹਿਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਰਹਿਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸਮਾਈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਸਮਾਈ </span></a>॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Gurmukẖ nāḏaʼn gurmukẖ veḏaʼn gurmukẖ rahi▫ā samā▫ī.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">The Guru's Word is the Sound-current of the Naad; the Guru's Word is the Wisdom of the Vedas; the Guru's Word is all-pervading.</span></span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਈਸਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਈਸਰੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੋਰਖੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੋਰਖੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬਰਮਾ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਬਰਮਾ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਰਬਤੀ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਪਾਰਬਤੀ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮਾਈ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਮਾਈ </span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0)">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: #000080">The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.</span></span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜੇ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜੇ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਉ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਹਉ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਣਾ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜਾਣਾ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਆਖਾ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਆਖਾ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਹੀ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਨਾਹੀ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਹਣਾ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਕਹਣਾ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਥਨੁ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਕਥਨੁ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਨ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਈ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜਾਈ </span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0)">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Je ha▫o jāṇā ākẖā nāhī kahṇā kathan na jā▫ī.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.</span></span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਾ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਗੁਰਾ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਇਕ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਇਕ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦੇਹਿ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਦੇਹਿ </span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬੁਝਾਈ" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਬੁਝਾਈ </span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0)">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Gurā ik ḏehi bujẖā▫ī.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">The Guru has given me this one understanding:</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸਭਨਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਸਭਨਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜੀਆ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜੀਆ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਕਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਇਕੁ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਇਕੁ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦਾਤਾ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਦਾਤਾ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੋ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਸੋ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮੈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਮੈ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਸਰਿ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਵਿਸਰਿ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਨ </span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਈ" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਜਾਈ </span></a>॥੫॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'">Sabẖnā jī▫ā kā ik ḏāṯā so mai visar na jā▫ī. ||5||</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128)">there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! ||5||</span></span></p><p></p><p>Now, S.S.Bains sums up the above as-</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>Miss and listen His name with intent.</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>It will fill you with joy by eliminating sorrows. You can become divine</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>by listening, praying by missing. God is in you. Divinity is achieved by</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>the grace of a guru. People have achieved it. Such as Shiva, Brahma,</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>Parvati etc. Even if I know about God, still I cannot explain, because</em></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>God is beyond comprehension. Guru has explained one thing clearly.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'CaslonBookBE-Regular'"><em>There is only one who gives to everyone. I do not forget Him.</em></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you can see how looking at both makes the picture a lot more clearer and how easy it is to go off track if we just concentrate on one.</p><p>Then after the task of translating, concluding and gaining the essence is done, comes the REAL MAGIC of APPLYING this very Gurmatt personally to Oneself!!!!</p><p>This is what makes the Guru Granth Sahib Ji exactly what it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Waheguru</p><p>Lucky Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 166889, member: 16886"] Ishna ji, a very intersting little discovery here!!! It's nice to see a slightly different worded version. I think this author has done very well and has given a simplified translation with more of an essence to it. It is NOT more closer in terms of word for word as you ask, but from what I have read so far, it does seem of high value. The problem that you can get with word for word is that it can move away from it's true intended meaning, especially with the many metaphors used. You may not quite get what I mean, let me explain- I understand it much better and realise how one can mislead because I've tried and still do attempt translating by myself. You may have seen a few of my attempts at the sukhmani sahib after Ambarsariaji's conclusions and in some other places. Here, I did as close as a word for word that I possibly could by breaking down sentences to single words. However, the results can end up off track if you are not careful or you don't catch the true meaning or essence early enough. It also took me a long time, for an ashtpadi of 8 lines it could take a few hours very easily. BUT, I must applaud Ambarsaria ji for his very thorough method and careful approach. His results have been outstanding and difficult to fault, in fact, marvelous at times.- I am not 1st language punjabi, so my vocab and reading skills are very limited and slow- just reading punjabi has been self taught, much after I was 25 years old!!! -so you can imagine!! After having attempts at doing word for word without reference to any teeka, I have learnt and realised just how easy it is to make a shabad apply in the incorrect manner, infact it makes sense to question 'is this what the guru's words meant ?' everytime that one actually proceeds with this task. With the above mentioned, from what I have read so far, I find it very good to read along with any existing translations on srigranth.org . FOR EXAMPLE in early japji where mention of the word of guru and some describing is given and mention of mythological figures like shiva, brahma, parvati, vishnu...etc..is 1stly touched upon and mentioned numerous times again throughout but with different contexts.....--Having a look, we can see----- [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗਾਵੀਐ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗਾਵੀਐ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੁਣੀਐ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਸੁਣੀਐ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮਨਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਮਨਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਰਖੀਐ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਰਖੀਐ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਭਾਉ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਭਾਉ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Gāvī▫ai suṇī▫ai man rakẖī▫ai bẖā▫o. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]Sing, and listen, and let your mind be filled with love.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦੁਖੁ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਦੁਖੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਰਹਰਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਪਰਹਰਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੁਖੁ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਸੁਖੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਘਰਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਘਰਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਲੈ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਲੈ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਇ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜਾਇ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Ḏukẖ parhar sukẖ gẖar lai jā▫e. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]Your pain shall be sent far away, and peace shall come to your home. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਦੰ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਨਾਦੰ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵੇਦੰ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਵੇਦੰ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਰਹਿਆ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਰਹਿਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸਮਾਈ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਸਮਾਈ [/COLOR][/URL]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Gurmukẖ nāḏaʼn gurmukẖ veḏaʼn gurmukẖ rahi▫ā samā▫ī. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]The Guru's Word is the Sound-current of the Naad; the Guru's Word is the Wisdom of the Vedas; the Guru's Word is all-pervading.[/COLOR][/FONT] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਈਸਰੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਈਸਰੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੋਰਖੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੋਰਖੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬਰਮਾ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਬਰਮਾ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਪਾਰਬਤੀ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਪਾਰਬਤੀ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮਾਈ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਮਾਈ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=rgb(128, 0, 0)]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī. [COLOR=#000080]The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.[/COLOR][/FONT] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜੇ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜੇ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਹਉ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਹਉ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਣਾ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜਾਣਾ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਆਖਾ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਆਖਾ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨਾਹੀ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਨਾਹੀ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਹਣਾ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਕਹਣਾ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਥਨੁ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਕਥਨੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਨ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਈ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜਾਈ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=rgb(128, 0, 0)]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Je ha▫o jāṇā ākẖā nāhī kahṇā kathan na jā▫ī. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.[/COLOR][/FONT] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਗੁਰਾ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਗੁਰਾ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਇਕ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਇਕ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦੇਹਿ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਦੇਹਿ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਬੁਝਾਈ'][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#0000ff]ਬੁਝਾਈ [/COLOR][/FONT][/URL][FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=rgb(128, 0, 0)]॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Gurā ik ḏehi bujẖā▫ī. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]The Guru has given me this one understanding:[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=#800000][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸਭਨਾ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਸਭਨਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜੀਆ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜੀਆ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਕਾ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਕਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਇਕੁ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਇਕੁ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਦਾਤਾ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਦਾਤਾ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਸੋ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਸੋ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਮੈ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਮੈ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਵਿਸਰਿ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਵਿਸਰਿ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਨ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਨ [/COLOR][/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=ਜਾਈ'][COLOR=#0000ff]ਜਾਈ [/COLOR][/URL]॥੫॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=TAHOMA]Sabẖnā jī▫ā kā ik ḏāṯā so mai visar na jā▫ī. ||5|| [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 128)]there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! ||5||[/COLOR][/FONT] Now, S.S.Bains sums up the above as- [LEFT][FONT=CaslonBookBE-Regular][I]Miss and listen His name with intent.[/I] [I]It will fill you with joy by eliminating sorrows. You can become divine[/I] [I]by listening, praying by missing. God is in you. Divinity is achieved by[/I] [I]the grace of a guru. People have achieved it. Such as Shiva, Brahma,[/I] [I]Parvati etc. Even if I know about God, still I cannot explain, because[/I] [I]God is beyond comprehension. Guru has explained one thing clearly.[/I][/FONT][/LEFT] [FONT=CaslonBookBE-Regular][I]There is only one who gives to everyone. I do not forget Him.[/I][/FONT] So, you can see how looking at both makes the picture a lot more clearer and how easy it is to go off track if we just concentrate on one. Then after the task of translating, concluding and gaining the essence is done, comes the REAL MAGIC of APPLYING this very Gurmatt personally to Oneself!!!! This is what makes the Guru Granth Sahib Ji exactly what it is. Waheguru Lucky Singh [/QUOTE]
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