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The World Of Words By I J Singh
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<blockquote data-quote="mandemeet" data-source="post: 164928" data-attributes="member: 17682"><p><span style="color: #0060BF"><strong>Respected Parkash Singh jio</strong></span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #0060BF">Why only I am required? Isn’t it you who have brought this? Bringing in this new approach and running away is not right. Kindly do not run away from your responsibility</span><u>; you say what you say is out of Gurbani;</u><span style="color: #0060BF"> kindly define it as per Gurbani. I have searched and haven’t found these words to define what you are talking about. If I am ignorant, you must help me.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0060BF">I never said opposite to this statement of yours on this site in any way r</span><span style="color: #0060BF">ather I stressed on this.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0060BF"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0060BF"></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>That is what I have been saying; it is you who are giving different names of Prabh’s waves and create duality. </strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>I am glad you have agreed, but you were saying,” how many times “Akalpurakh” is used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib” and I questioned the validity of your question. You should have realized that but you haven’t.</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Sir, how can I do that when you respond to my posts in your own statements lacking any proof from Gurbani? Your purpose of bringing this new approach is to share with others and define what others miss. You are not doing that. Instead, you tell,” It is not Ikk, it is Iku” and never take a responsibility to define the difference of Iku and Ikk as per Gurbani. Look at your response below:</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0060BF"><strong>I have looked at it and I asked you to define the separate meaning of Iku, Ik, because I don’t find it and you are not giving it, why not? <u>What you are saying if that affects the meaning, you should do that </u>as you have explained in your post earlier that in the use of “Har Har Har” through one Har, the Guru means “ the name of Har is “Har Har”. I agreed. I have noticed that you question Gurbani interpreters for their negligence in recognizing Grammar while interpreting Gurbani; unfortunately, you do not bring up your interpretation that can be compared with their negligence. If I just say, “ it is there, you find it, it is there, you find it” will you call it a good interaction”?</strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0060BF"><strong>I commented on your post first time by noticing that while explaining something you pull back; while interacting with me, you are doing the same thing. Look at my posts and see how I bring some points to your attention with Gurbani quotes and then look at your reactions; they are “simple your own statements lacking support from Gurbani or there is questioning about not much used word “Akalpurakh” or “it is Iku not Ikk Let me do one more effort how Iku (as you like to write) conveys the meaning of one</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>On 437</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਆਦਿ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਪੁਰਖਿ<strong>ਇਕ</strong></span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ੁ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਚਲਤੁ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਦਿਖਾਇਆ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਜਹ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਦੇਖਾ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਤਹ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਸੋਈ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">॥</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Āḏ purakẖ ik cẖalaṯ ḏikẖā▫i▫ā jah ḏekẖā ṯah so▫ī.</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਆਦਿ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਪੁਰਖਿ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> Akalpurakh NE, let me use the word you like to use Prabh Ne</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>ਇਕ</strong></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ੁ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> = one, why it means one, the next word will prove it</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਚਲਤੁ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> = play (singular as t has ounkud at the end)</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਦਿਖਾਇਆ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> = is shown (verb for singular subject; if it were for many, it would have been “dikhaye” </span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਜਹ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਦੇਖਾ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਤਹ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> = where I see</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਤਹ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue">ਸੋਈ</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> He (who? Aad Purakh)</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>ਇਕ</strong></span> <span style="color: RoyalBlue">ੁ</span><span style="color: black"><span style="color: RoyalBlue"> Iku has conveyed meaning of one</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D">We talk about Ekkankar </span></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D">I look at Har (you write Hari), as Ekankaar; first of all, you kindly answer the questions. Ounkud makes the word singular but sometimes, its use appears to be exception. Without Ounkud, the word is plural; again there is exception </span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D"></span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D"></span></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D">As I see them in context of the entire shabda, they are no different entities; kindly prove it by interpreting the verses</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong></strong></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D">Kindly read carefully; I explained it already; that verse is said in context of fourth and fifth Guru (human Guru not in the way you express Gurjyoti</span></span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #1F497D">Here it is</span></span></strong></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="color: black">ਰਾਮਦਾਸਿ</span><span style="color: black">ਗੁਰੂ</span><span style="color: black">ਜਗ</span><span style="color: black">ਤਾਰਨ</span><span style="color: black">ਕਉ</span></strong><strong><span style="color: #AB5555">ਗੁਰ</span></strong><strong><span style="color: #AB5555">ਜੋਤ</span><span style="color: black">ਿ</span><span style="color: black">ਅਰਜੁਨ</span><span style="color: black">ਮਾਹਿ</span><span style="color: black">ਧਰੀ</span><span style="color: black">॥</span><span style="color: black">੪</span><span style="color: black">॥</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="color: black">Rāmḏās gurū jag ṯāran ka▫o gur joṯ arjun māhi ḏẖarī. ||4||</span></strong></span> </p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">What your specific useful observation I see in Gurbani, I applaud that, but other things you are saying are hard to find in Gurbani as I have tried and you are not helping either this ignorant person</span>.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>With warm regards</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong>mandemeet</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue"><strong></strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mandemeet, post: 164928, member: 17682"] [COLOR=#0060BF][B]Respected Parkash Singh jio[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#0060BF]Why only I am required? Isn’t it you who have brought this? Bringing in this new approach and running away is not right. Kindly do not run away from your responsibility[/COLOR][U]; you say what you say is out of Gurbani;[/U][COLOR=#0060BF] kindly define it as per Gurbani. I have searched and haven’t found these words to define what you are talking about. If I am ignorant, you must help me.[/COLOR] [/B] [B][COLOR=#0060BF]I never said opposite to this statement of yours on this site in any way r[/COLOR][COLOR=#0060BF]ather I stressed on this. [/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]That is what I have been saying; it is you who are giving different names of Prabh’s waves and create duality. [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]I am glad you have agreed, but you were saying,” how many times “Akalpurakh” is used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib” and I questioned the validity of your question. You should have realized that but you haven’t.[/B][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=RoyalBlue]Sir, how can I do that when you respond to my posts in your own statements lacking any proof from Gurbani? Your purpose of bringing this new approach is to share with others and define what others miss. You are not doing that. Instead, you tell,” It is not Ikk, it is Iku” and never take a responsibility to define the difference of Iku and Ikk as per Gurbani. Look at your response below:[/COLOR] [/B] [COLOR=#0060BF][B]I have looked at it and I asked you to define the separate meaning of Iku, Ik, because I don’t find it and you are not giving it, why not? [U]What you are saying if that affects the meaning, you should do that [/U]as you have explained in your post earlier that in the use of “Har Har Har” through one Har, the Guru means “ the name of Har is “Har Har”. I agreed. I have noticed that you question Gurbani interpreters for their negligence in recognizing Grammar while interpreting Gurbani; unfortunately, you do not bring up your interpretation that can be compared with their negligence. If I just say, “ it is there, you find it, it is there, you find it” will you call it a good interaction”?[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0060BF][B]I commented on your post first time by noticing that while explaining something you pull back; while interacting with me, you are doing the same thing. Look at my posts and see how I bring some points to your attention with Gurbani quotes and then look at your reactions; they are “simple your own statements lacking support from Gurbani or there is questioning about not much used word “Akalpurakh” or “it is Iku not Ikk Let me do one more effort how Iku (as you like to write) conveys the meaning of one[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]On 437[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਆਦਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਪੁਰਖਿ[B]ਇਕ[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ੁ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਚਲਤੁ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਦਿਖਾਇਆ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਜਹ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਦੇਖਾ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਤਹ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਸੋਈ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Āḏ purakẖ ik cẖalaṯ ḏikẖā▫i▫ā jah ḏekẖā ṯah so▫ī. [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਆਦਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਪੁਰਖਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] Akalpurakh NE, let me use the word you like to use Prabh Ne [B]ਇਕ[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ੁ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] = one, why it means one, the next word will prove it [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਚਲਤੁ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] = play (singular as t has ounkud at the end) [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਦਿਖਾਇਆ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] = is shown (verb for singular subject; if it were for many, it would have been “dikhaye” [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਜਹ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਦੇਖਾ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਤਹ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] = where I see [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਤਹ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]ਸੋਈ[/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue] He (who? Aad Purakh) [B]ਇਕ[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue]ੁ[/COLOR][COLOR=black][COLOR=RoyalBlue] Iku has conveyed meaning of one[/COLOR] [/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#1F497D]We talk about Ekkankar [/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#1F497D]I look at Har (you write Hari), as Ekankaar; first of all, you kindly answer the questions. Ounkud makes the word singular but sometimes, its use appears to be exception. Without Ounkud, the word is plural; again there is exception [/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#1F497D]As I see them in context of the entire shabda, they are no different entities; kindly prove it by interpreting the verses[/COLOR][/SIZE] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#1F497D]Kindly read carefully; I explained it already; that verse is said in context of fourth and fifth Guru (human Guru not in the way you express Gurjyoti[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#1F497D]Here it is[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][COLOR=black]ਰਾਮਦਾਸਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਗੁਰੂ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਜਗ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਤਾਰਨ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਕਉ[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=#AB5555]ਗੁਰ[/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=#AB5555]ਜੋਤ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਅਰਜੁਨ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਮਾਹਿ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]ਧਰੀ[/COLOR][COLOR=black]॥[/COLOR][COLOR=black]੪[/COLOR][COLOR=black]॥[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Rāmḏās gurū jag ṯāran ka▫o gur joṯ arjun māhi ḏẖarī. ||4||[/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][SIZE=3]What your specific useful observation I see in Gurbani, I applaud that, but other things you are saying are hard to find in Gurbani as I have tried and you are not helping either this ignorant person[/SIZE].[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]With warm regards mandemeet [/B][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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