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<blockquote data-quote="S|kH" data-source="post: 7810" data-attributes="member: 217"><p><strong>Re: The Texas State Capitol's Ten Commandments at the Supreme Court</strong></p><p></p><p>The Founding Father debate...</p><p></p><p>I've went through this debate so many times, but if it's all about picking quotes, than no one wins. Most of the Founding Fathers whether they be famous or not, were Christians, some were deists. All of the one Fathers you listed, also have quotes which would resemble that of staunch Christians. The reason America is not a Theocracy is because they were also students of the Elightenment Era, but were also traditional and conservative at the same time. They were not students as some of their peers were in other nations, where people had started to speak and attack religion directly. </p><p></p><p>NOTE - I do not necessarily agree with some of the quotes I am about to post, but that does not change the words said from the Fathers.</p><p></p><p>PATRICK HENRY- "Let us never make the mistake that this nation was formed</p><p>for mere religious freedom. No! it was founded upon Christian principles for Christian freedom." </p><p></p><p>John Jay -"This nation was founded upon Christian principles, and can only</p><p>be best served when Christians hold office." </p><p>The following quotes reflect the Fathers and the Bible :</p><p></p><p>GEORGE WASHINGTON- "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without</p><p>the Bible." </p><p></p><p>Declaration of Independence - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by <strong>their Creator</strong> with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--" SIGNED BY MOSTLY ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU LISTED.</p><p></p><p>James Madison - "We have staked the whole future of American Civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, </p><p>according to the Ten Commandments of God"</p><p></p><p>All of the signers of the DoI, the constitution / bill of rights, and federalists papers were Christians, all but 2 were regular attendees of a local church. 25% of them were ministers of The Lord Jesus Christ's Gospel. </p><p></p><p>Thomas Jefferson - "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our creator."</p><p></p><p>Although I would probably agree with you Jefferson became or was a diest at one point in his life. </p><p></p><p>John Quincy Adams - "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: "It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."</p><p></p><p>Benjamin Franklin, June 28, 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - </p><p>“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for divine protection. Our prayers, sir, were heard; and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending Providence in our favor. To that kind of Providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten our that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance?</p><p>I have lived, sir, a long time; and the longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth---that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing government by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war, or conquest.</p><p>I therefore, beg leave to move:</p><p>That hereafter prayers, imploring the assistance of Heaven and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service."</p><p></p><p>and the list goes on, if you really wish to read all the quotes, I can show you them. I have researched this before and went through this argument in great detail. </p><p></p><p>Now, many people will rebuttle saying, "If they were Christians, why didn't they make America a theocracy"....and I say, I am a Sikh, but I would never make a country run solely by Sikhism, due to human nature, I know that it could never become perfect. Many religions have tried it before, and all have failed, democracy is the way to go. Also, some quotes from the Founders state something along the lines that "if this world had no religion in it, it would be excellent" etc... Does everyone not feel this at one point in time when they see "religious wars" around them? Many people expressed this view after 9/11 and the Christian vs. Muslim sentiments, they thought if there was no religion, than the world would be ok. It's usually just a swing, everyone goes through it, and says it at one point in time. </p><p></p><p>Now, for the big Constitution quote :</p><p>First Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof</p><p></p><p>"respecting an establishment of religion"...therefore Congress can not say they belong to "The Unitarian Church of Christ" and only donate money to that Church. Historically, and it still happens today, the government allocates EQUAL amounts of money to ALL religious temples and organizations. They do not respect JUST ONE establishment, or any for that matter, they treat them the SAME. And also, they can not prohibt the free exercise of religion. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, this is getting a bit off-topic, but if you want more quotes from the Fathers, just ask...</p><p></p><p>And here are my views as far as the Fathers go :</p><p>Many of the founders obviously were Christian, and obviously some were Deists. BUT, they both knew that a government forcing any one religion on the people would inevitably lead to corruption of both the State and the religion. So they set forth measure to prevent that from happening! Yet, you could still maintain your own religion, regardless of the fact if you were a member of the government or not! And, the government could not favor one Church over the other, all had to be treated equally as far as financial distribution was concerned. Basically, the Churches had to be treated as business organizations, as Congress could not claim only ONE Church was the truth and others were Satanists. </p><p></p><p>So, Christian Nation? No. </p><p>Founded on Christian/Masonic Principles? Yes.</p><p></p><p>More so to say that the rights were founded on Judeo-Christian or Masonic, if you believe so, principles, but are secured by a secular government.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S|kH, post: 7810, member: 217"] [b]Re: The Texas State Capitol's Ten Commandments at the Supreme Court[/b] The Founding Father debate... I've went through this debate so many times, but if it's all about picking quotes, than no one wins. Most of the Founding Fathers whether they be famous or not, were Christians, some were deists. All of the one Fathers you listed, also have quotes which would resemble that of staunch Christians. The reason America is not a Theocracy is because they were also students of the Elightenment Era, but were also traditional and conservative at the same time. They were not students as some of their peers were in other nations, where people had started to speak and attack religion directly. NOTE - I do not necessarily agree with some of the quotes I am about to post, but that does not change the words said from the Fathers. PATRICK HENRY- "Let us never make the mistake that this nation was formed for mere religious freedom. No! it was founded upon Christian principles for Christian freedom." John Jay -"This nation was founded upon Christian principles, and can only be best served when Christians hold office." The following quotes reflect the Fathers and the Bible : GEORGE WASHINGTON- "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without the Bible." Declaration of Independence - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by [B]their Creator[/B] with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--" SIGNED BY MOSTLY ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU LISTED. James Madison - "We have staked the whole future of American Civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God" All of the signers of the DoI, the constitution / bill of rights, and federalists papers were Christians, all but 2 were regular attendees of a local church. 25% of them were ministers of The Lord Jesus Christ's Gospel. Thomas Jefferson - "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our creator." Although I would probably agree with you Jefferson became or was a diest at one point in his life. John Quincy Adams - "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: "It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." Benjamin Franklin, June 28, 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - “In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for divine protection. Our prayers, sir, were heard; and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending Providence in our favor. To that kind of Providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten our that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance? I have lived, sir, a long time; and the longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth---that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword down to future ages. And, what is worse, mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing government by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war, or conquest. I therefore, beg leave to move: That hereafter prayers, imploring the assistance of Heaven and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service." and the list goes on, if you really wish to read all the quotes, I can show you them. I have researched this before and went through this argument in great detail. Now, many people will rebuttle saying, "If they were Christians, why didn't they make America a theocracy"....and I say, I am a Sikh, but I would never make a country run solely by Sikhism, due to human nature, I know that it could never become perfect. Many religions have tried it before, and all have failed, democracy is the way to go. Also, some quotes from the Founders state something along the lines that "if this world had no religion in it, it would be excellent" etc... Does everyone not feel this at one point in time when they see "religious wars" around them? Many people expressed this view after 9/11 and the Christian vs. Muslim sentiments, they thought if there was no religion, than the world would be ok. It's usually just a swing, everyone goes through it, and says it at one point in time. Now, for the big Constitution quote : First Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof "respecting an establishment of religion"...therefore Congress can not say they belong to "The Unitarian Church of Christ" and only donate money to that Church. Historically, and it still happens today, the government allocates EQUAL amounts of money to ALL religious temples and organizations. They do not respect JUST ONE establishment, or any for that matter, they treat them the SAME. And also, they can not prohibt the free exercise of religion. Anyways, this is getting a bit off-topic, but if you want more quotes from the Fathers, just ask... And here are my views as far as the Fathers go : Many of the founders obviously were Christian, and obviously some were Deists. BUT, they both knew that a government forcing any one religion on the people would inevitably lead to corruption of both the State and the religion. So they set forth measure to prevent that from happening! Yet, you could still maintain your own religion, regardless of the fact if you were a member of the government or not! And, the government could not favor one Church over the other, all had to be treated equally as far as financial distribution was concerned. Basically, the Churches had to be treated as business organizations, as Congress could not claim only ONE Church was the truth and others were Satanists. So, Christian Nation? No. Founded on Christian/Masonic Principles? Yes. More so to say that the rights were founded on Judeo-Christian or Masonic, if you believe so, principles, but are secured by a secular government. [/QUOTE]
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