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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_member14" data-source="post: 133747" data-attributes="member: 586"><p>Jasdir ji,</p><p></p><p>Your last remark first:</p><p>“So,Confused Ji,</p><p>I hope u will be able to understand the point,</p><p>Always,Respect U,goodbye.”</p><p></p><p>C: No I don’t, but I am guessing a few things and here are my remarks in between your comments.</p><p>=========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>"Love",</p><p>The journey of "Soul" starts for "Love" and ends in "Love",</p><p></p><p>C: I wonder what you think if I said that, “the Path begins and ends with Wisdom”?</p><p>========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>So, everything which comes in between the journey,,,, is for "Love",</p><p>("har khat mera saien suni seaj na koi"-gurbani)</p><p>What is "Love"?</p><p>Everything is for "Love", or is in "Love",</p><p>There is no life without "Love",</p><p>No one can live without "Love",</p><p></p><p>C: Concepts such as ‘love’ which I’ve been using all my life unreflectingly or even those that have been carefully pondered over, I now see them as being in fact products of ignorance on my part. The reason being that I have never studied their nature directly. Let alone this, I’ve usually lumped many states together, and worse, such as in this case, taken attachment for being love. Indeed I continue to take what is unwholesome for being wholesome. Besides, I’ve also come to learn about something called “cheating states”, more or less as byproduct of a desire for results in the sphere of morality and knowledge. </p><p>And your above statement sounds rather abstract, and so I really do not know what you are trying to convey.</p><p>========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>The water "Love" to run towards sea through rivers etc.., then again steam, then clouds, then snow or rain, then again rivers, then again sea </p><p></p><p>The seed "Love" to grow into a tree, than fruits, than again seed, then again tree.</p><p></p><p>C: Of course ‘love’ is a state of mind, water and seed can’t have love. You are probably just making a simile, however it seems to be one which muddles the picture even more for me. :-/</p><p>========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>The rich man "Love" to collect money, more money, more money, more money.,,,,,,,because he is in "Love" with money.</p><p></p><p>The drunken person wants to drink more wine, more wine, more wine ,,,,,,,,because he is in "Love" with wine,</p><p></p><p>Somebody is in "Love" with opposite sex,</p><p></p><p>C: Now these all are quite familiar. They clearly point to ‘attachment’. I doubt this is what you are actually encouraging in another context, are you?</p><p>=========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>Or some peoples "Love" to talk in favour of their religion, or they "Love" to show the greatness of their religon, Or they "Love" to show their intelligence or knowledge regarding their religon, or they "Love" to proove how important their religon is,,,,,,Anyhow this is not their fault,,,,,, They are also in "Love" of their intelligence, greatness, importance, knowledge, or religon.</p><p></p><p>C: It sounds like you are telling me something here and I relate this to your comment that I quoted in the beginning of this message. Perhaps I’m being overly sensitive and I hope that I am mistaken. However I react not just to explain my position in case there are others here who have come to a similar conclusion, but also so that you will know of other possible motives for anyone posting here. But of course there is also the possibility of my being deluded about my own motivations, in which case, I thank you for trying to point out my faults.</p><p></p><p>I have absolutely no reason to talk in favour of the religion that I follow or show its greatness. There is no doubt that I strongly believe in it, however all I wish is to share the understandings that I’ve gained without any need even to direct anyone to some books, let alone promote the religion. It is me who anyone here will be talking to and so I do my best, to ask someone to study some texts would be an unnecessary diversion and could result in reliance on authority, which I do not wish to encourage. Likewise I must take responsibility for what I say and would not wish to hide behind any authority. </p><p></p><p>As to ‘intelligence’, I believe that many here are more intelligent than I am. Recently I did a test and discovered that I’m ADHD to a high level, so I really don’t have a high estimation of myself, especially these days. ;-) With regard to such things as morality as well, I sincerely believe that many people here are of better character than I am. </p><p></p><p>Yes, as I said, I strongly believe in what I understand, even though at the same time I know it to be at the kindergarten level only. And yes, even this much is enough to arouse so much confidence such that I am ready to face anyone at all, including the most intelligent people in the world in debate about what Truth is. The level of confidence and the way that I express myself is perhaps the reason behind the wrong impression....?</p><p>==========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>Everything is in "Love" or affected by "Love"</p><p>Similarly, every action is in "Love", or for "Love" or unconditional "Love"</p><p>There is "Love" in every heart, </p><p>In fact "Soul" is the drop of "Love"</p><p></p><p>C: If you asked me, I’d say that “attachment” is the reason we keep being reborn and this is because even now it dominates our lives. As a friend often points out, attachment is both the teacher and the student. </p><p>==========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>But at the end the "Soul" thinks why to waste the time for dust or wordly pleasures,,,,,,,As they are not stable or for ever, </p><p></p><p>C: Nothing lasts even for an instant. And to tell you the truth, one reason that I joined this group was because of the perception of being ‘sansaari’. People’s fascination with worldly knowledge and understandings as got from science for example, really annoyed me. I tried to draw people’s attention to the reality of Karma which I know to also be taught in Sikhism. But it turns out that no one is interested enough in this..... :-/</p><p>=========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>So, where is my true "Love", </p><p>As a result the "Love" changes its mode,</p><p>The "Soul" gets fed up from all types of "Loves" or wordly pleasures,</p><p>The water or "Soul" starts thinking for final "Love" or sea or "God". </p><p></p><p>C: “Soul” is another abstraction that I do not believe in. And the cure for worldliness is in seeing through all that which makes up our lives as being fleeting and insubstantial. </p><p></p><p>So clearly our understanding is very different. But neither of us should mind this. ;-)</p><p>=========</p><p>Quote Jasdir:</p><p>So everything is based on "Time"</p><p>The "Time" comes when "Soul" gets fed up from all wordly Loves or Pleasures,</p><p></p><p>"God" is the subject,,,,,,, to "Love",,,,, The "Love"</p><p>"God" is the subject,,,,,,, to know The "Love"</p><p>That is why it is called "God" is "Love" "Love" is "God",</p><p>Tho every action is in "Love" so there is no place for "Time" in between,</p><p>So, "God" or "Love" is away from "Time",</p><p></p><p>C: Yes, time is an illusion and the sooner we realize this, the better.</p><p></p><p>Best wishes,</p><p>Sukinder</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_member14, post: 133747, member: 586"] Jasdir ji, Your last remark first: “So,Confused Ji, I hope u will be able to understand the point, Always,Respect U,goodbye.” C: No I don’t, but I am guessing a few things and here are my remarks in between your comments. ========= Quote Jasdir: "Love", The journey of "Soul" starts for "Love" and ends in "Love", C: I wonder what you think if I said that, “the Path begins and ends with Wisdom”? ======== Quote Jasdir: So, everything which comes in between the journey,,,, is for "Love", ("har khat mera saien suni seaj na koi"-gurbani) What is "Love"? Everything is for "Love", or is in "Love", There is no life without "Love", No one can live without "Love", C: Concepts such as ‘love’ which I’ve been using all my life unreflectingly or even those that have been carefully pondered over, I now see them as being in fact products of ignorance on my part. The reason being that I have never studied their nature directly. Let alone this, I’ve usually lumped many states together, and worse, such as in this case, taken attachment for being love. Indeed I continue to take what is unwholesome for being wholesome. Besides, I’ve also come to learn about something called “cheating states”, more or less as byproduct of a desire for results in the sphere of morality and knowledge. And your above statement sounds rather abstract, and so I really do not know what you are trying to convey. ======== Quote Jasdir: The water "Love" to run towards sea through rivers etc.., then again steam, then clouds, then snow or rain, then again rivers, then again sea The seed "Love" to grow into a tree, than fruits, than again seed, then again tree. C: Of course ‘love’ is a state of mind, water and seed can’t have love. You are probably just making a simile, however it seems to be one which muddles the picture even more for me. :-/ ======== Quote Jasdir: The rich man "Love" to collect money, more money, more money, more money.,,,,,,,because he is in "Love" with money. The drunken person wants to drink more wine, more wine, more wine ,,,,,,,,because he is in "Love" with wine, Somebody is in "Love" with opposite sex, C: Now these all are quite familiar. They clearly point to ‘attachment’. I doubt this is what you are actually encouraging in another context, are you? ========= Quote Jasdir: Or some peoples "Love" to talk in favour of their religion, or they "Love" to show the greatness of their religon, Or they "Love" to show their intelligence or knowledge regarding their religon, or they "Love" to proove how important their religon is,,,,,,Anyhow this is not their fault,,,,,, They are also in "Love" of their intelligence, greatness, importance, knowledge, or religon. C: It sounds like you are telling me something here and I relate this to your comment that I quoted in the beginning of this message. Perhaps I’m being overly sensitive and I hope that I am mistaken. However I react not just to explain my position in case there are others here who have come to a similar conclusion, but also so that you will know of other possible motives for anyone posting here. But of course there is also the possibility of my being deluded about my own motivations, in which case, I thank you for trying to point out my faults. I have absolutely no reason to talk in favour of the religion that I follow or show its greatness. There is no doubt that I strongly believe in it, however all I wish is to share the understandings that I’ve gained without any need even to direct anyone to some books, let alone promote the religion. It is me who anyone here will be talking to and so I do my best, to ask someone to study some texts would be an unnecessary diversion and could result in reliance on authority, which I do not wish to encourage. Likewise I must take responsibility for what I say and would not wish to hide behind any authority. As to ‘intelligence’, I believe that many here are more intelligent than I am. Recently I did a test and discovered that I’m ADHD to a high level, so I really don’t have a high estimation of myself, especially these days. ;-) With regard to such things as morality as well, I sincerely believe that many people here are of better character than I am. Yes, as I said, I strongly believe in what I understand, even though at the same time I know it to be at the kindergarten level only. And yes, even this much is enough to arouse so much confidence such that I am ready to face anyone at all, including the most intelligent people in the world in debate about what Truth is. The level of confidence and the way that I express myself is perhaps the reason behind the wrong impression....? ========== Quote Jasdir: Everything is in "Love" or affected by "Love" Similarly, every action is in "Love", or for "Love" or unconditional "Love" There is "Love" in every heart, In fact "Soul" is the drop of "Love" C: If you asked me, I’d say that “attachment” is the reason we keep being reborn and this is because even now it dominates our lives. As a friend often points out, attachment is both the teacher and the student. ========== Quote Jasdir: But at the end the "Soul" thinks why to waste the time for dust or wordly pleasures,,,,,,,As they are not stable or for ever, C: Nothing lasts even for an instant. And to tell you the truth, one reason that I joined this group was because of the perception of being ‘sansaari’. People’s fascination with worldly knowledge and understandings as got from science for example, really annoyed me. I tried to draw people’s attention to the reality of Karma which I know to also be taught in Sikhism. But it turns out that no one is interested enough in this..... :-/ ========= Quote Jasdir: So, where is my true "Love", As a result the "Love" changes its mode, The "Soul" gets fed up from all types of "Loves" or wordly pleasures, The water or "Soul" starts thinking for final "Love" or sea or "God". C: “Soul” is another abstraction that I do not believe in. And the cure for worldliness is in seeing through all that which makes up our lives as being fleeting and insubstantial. So clearly our understanding is very different. But neither of us should mind this. ;-) ========= Quote Jasdir: So everything is based on "Time" The "Time" comes when "Soul" gets fed up from all wordly Loves or Pleasures, "God" is the subject,,,,,,, to "Love",,,,, The "Love" "God" is the subject,,,,,,, to know The "Love" That is why it is called "God" is "Love" "Love" is "God", Tho every action is in "Love" so there is no place for "Time" in between, So, "God" or "Love" is away from "Time", C: Yes, time is an illusion and the sooner we realize this, the better. Best wishes, Sukinder [/QUOTE]
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