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<blockquote data-quote="ISDhillon" data-source="post: 62780" data-attributes="member: 1987"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Hey sinister<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Some are freethinkers some choose to be followers and choice is good for all as long as that choice does not infringe on others.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black">spirit is an outpouring of energy which is creative and configures in new varieties and sets new trends.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I disagree for the reasons I gave in my last post.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I disagree, the power of group collective conscious is not the reason for the contradictions it is the outpouring of energy in the form of spirit, if it were group power then why is it that majorities cannot configure new variations of identity which would homogenize minorities? Surely the power is in number? and that this would be both logical and reasonable to predict. It is this negation of reason which were seeing today, I know of no black man who names his son winston anymore, they prefer jamaal or aleesha etc. </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">this is dangerous, i believe an attitudinal change is required which will see equality in terms of seeing the equal co-validity of a concept rather than reducing all to their lowest common denominators in the aim of finding some sort of commanality between men, how often do we hear our politicians talk of muslims who are radical being a minority? this simply is not the case the majority if anything have radical views and this is something they are entitled to enterntain within their communities.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">no power struggle although i will admit that on some level some communities are trying to salvage a sense of self worth, however this cannot be said of identity in general as definition self-identity cannot be surrendered to the other, the other should exist in contrast to another whilst both stick to their respective identities they further define one anothers individual characteristics this is the only solution to a plural society and this cannot be acheived when the state has an ideology of assimilation.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">not just religion, cultural diversity to man is as important as biodiversity is to nature - I stole this from the united nations speech lol</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong>true </strong></span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">notice the words emerge and develops, this I believe is through a "fitting-in" process I dont necessarily belive i must interact with anyone to develop an identity many genres such as goths, punks etc came from individuals who had an outpouring of energy in the environment they lived in they fitted their internal interpretation of reality as an outward manifestation and yes then and only then through social interaction did goths and punks arrive at an identity. I do not believe that sikhism holds spirit in the same context as other religions which is perhaps why I argue from this point.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The simple answer is why not? Did religious identities come from families? Did punks hells angels, hip-hop come from families? I dont think so families exist as a support system I fail to see how my family is creating the ideology of my identity perhaps if one were to dress like the brady bunch and or perhaps model their lives on 20's pleasentville style household then yes i hope you see where i am going with this. I do not believe that identies should be limited to families and peers groups, the only problem is the definition of all religious concepts and even the "lumping of a ideology into a religion" should not be surrendered to the state or anyone else for that matter, there is also an issue of contribution here which is important to mention when considering self-determination of identities, I believe contribution in itself is irrelevant if I believe that pearcing my body will give me bliss then thats all I will do to hell with contributing to society .</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black"><strong> integration yes ,no no no to assimliation, in punjab their is no assimilation yet their is integration, you have religions which are interlinked by the "punjabiyat" and then you have the respective religious identies therein and this process works all be it we have had problems. And again the problem is with people not the religions why should a religion be disregarded because the majority are unsuccessfull???? If anything it is the religion which obviously gives greater through its people in thise situations, and let me say it cannot be ignored that jews are the most creative and genius people I have ever come across I respect the jews and I believe this stems from my upbringing as a sikh you must ask christians what was lacking in the vision of their religions as to why they could not extend the same admiration.</strong></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">this can be said of secular governments also towards religious minorities, such as the hindus in africa. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #ff0000">I feel that you have some good points but there is a lot of generalisation here to pin-point and blame these occurences on religion is incredibly myopic, france is just about ready to eat cake they have not done much in the way of economic uplift, in LA i met alot of french people who sympathised with the backlash from the suburban areas of paris and stated that the existing model does not work. Again does this not come down to marx trickled down theory? if the model worked then why is it that this eruption came through ethnic reliogious medium?</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: black">it is a very different reality to me I get my strenght from gurbani, i get my determination from gurbani but if this is the status of others who am I to argue, if I were to say what I really believe I will say that religion is not fashionable and we will have in the future a permenent place for it like we do different species unlike the dodo we will not be destroyed by green house gases lol.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I am currently studying a masters in sustainable development and one of the intiatives that the government is doing byway of integration is investing in communities the way we do this is by creating museams, givng media to specific groups, sponsoring trips to peoples native countries. It is important to build sustainable communities I will tell you why this is the only way for peace, when we allow a community or religious group or ethnicity to fully explore and reveal their identities they can and will configure as long as they the investment to make this change, with time identities will change and develop within those communities which will foster greater relationships with the other, this is the way in which integration is possible, assimlation is a means to taboo difference, and difference like the old taboo of sex will be harmonised. Look at the taboo of sex? now when we see scantily clad figures on tv we do not become bashfull or prudish but recognise it as a scantily clad figure on tv, in the same way we will come to recognise the identities of different communities and people and realise that this is what forms the rich tapestry of civilsation.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>anyway go to go</p><p> </p><p>indy<img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/up-pointer.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":up:" title="Up Pointer :up:" data-shortname=":up:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ISDhillon, post: 62780, member: 1987"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Hey sinister:)[/SIZE][/FONT] Some are freethinkers some choose to be followers and choice is good for all as long as that choice does not infringe on others. [FONT=Tahoma] [SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black]spirit is an outpouring of energy which is creative and configures in new varieties and sets new trends.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I disagree for the reasons I gave in my last post.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman]I disagree, the power of group collective conscious is not the reason for the contradictions it is the outpouring of energy in the form of spirit, if it were group power then why is it that majorities cannot configure new variations of identity which would homogenize minorities? Surely the power is in number? and that this would be both logical and reasonable to predict. It is this negation of reason which were seeing today, I know of no black man who names his son winston anymore, they prefer jamaal or aleesha etc. [/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]this is dangerous, i believe an attitudinal change is required which will see equality in terms of seeing the equal co-validity of a concept rather than reducing all to their lowest common denominators in the aim of finding some sort of commanality between men, how often do we hear our politicians talk of muslims who are radical being a minority? this simply is not the case the majority if anything have radical views and this is something they are entitled to enterntain within their communities.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]no power struggle although i will admit that on some level some communities are trying to salvage a sense of self worth, however this cannot be said of identity in general as definition self-identity cannot be surrendered to the other, the other should exist in contrast to another whilst both stick to their respective identities they further define one anothers individual characteristics this is the only solution to a plural society and this cannot be acheived when the state has an ideology of assimilation.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]not just religion, cultural diversity to man is as important as biodiversity is to nature - I stole this from the united nations speech lol[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Tahoma] [SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][B]true [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]notice the words emerge and develops, this I believe is through a "fitting-in" process I dont necessarily belive i must interact with anyone to develop an identity many genres such as goths, punks etc came from individuals who had an outpouring of energy in the environment they lived in they fitted their internal interpretation of reality as an outward manifestation and yes then and only then through social interaction did goths and punks arrive at an identity. I do not believe that sikhism holds spirit in the same context as other religions which is perhaps why I argue from this point.[/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The simple answer is why not? Did religious identities come from families? Did punks hells angels, hip-hop come from families? I dont think so families exist as a support system I fail to see how my family is creating the ideology of my identity perhaps if one were to dress like the brady bunch and or perhaps model their lives on 20's pleasentville style household then yes i hope you see where i am going with this. I do not believe that identies should be limited to families and peers groups, the only problem is the definition of all religious concepts and even the "lumping of a ideology into a religion" should not be surrendered to the state or anyone else for that matter, there is also an issue of contribution here which is important to mention when considering self-determination of identities, I believe contribution in itself is irrelevant if I believe that pearcing my body will give me bliss then thats all I will do to hell with contributing to society .[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black][B] integration yes ,no no no to assimliation, in punjab their is no assimilation yet their is integration, you have religions which are interlinked by the "punjabiyat" and then you have the respective religious identies therein and this process works all be it we have had problems. And again the problem is with people not the religions why should a religion be disregarded because the majority are unsuccessfull???? If anything it is the religion which obviously gives greater through its people in thise situations, and let me say it cannot be ignored that jews are the most creative and genius people I have ever come across I respect the jews and I believe this stems from my upbringing as a sikh you must ask christians what was lacking in the vision of their religions as to why they could not extend the same admiration.[/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]this can be said of secular governments also towards religious minorities, such as the hindus in africa. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=red][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#ff0000]I feel that you have some good points but there is a lot of generalisation here to pin-point and blame these occurences on religion is incredibly myopic, france is just about ready to eat cake they have not done much in the way of economic uplift, in LA i met alot of french people who sympathised with the backlash from the suburban areas of paris and stated that the existing model does not work. Again does this not come down to marx trickled down theory? if the model worked then why is it that this eruption came through ethnic reliogious medium?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=black]it is a very different reality to me I get my strenght from gurbani, i get my determination from gurbani but if this is the status of others who am I to argue, if I were to say what I really believe I will say that religion is not fashionable and we will have in the future a permenent place for it like we do different species unlike the dodo we will not be destroyed by green house gases lol.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] I am currently studying a masters in sustainable development and one of the intiatives that the government is doing byway of integration is investing in communities the way we do this is by creating museams, givng media to specific groups, sponsoring trips to peoples native countries. It is important to build sustainable communities I will tell you why this is the only way for peace, when we allow a community or religious group or ethnicity to fully explore and reveal their identities they can and will configure as long as they the investment to make this change, with time identities will change and develop within those communities which will foster greater relationships with the other, this is the way in which integration is possible, assimlation is a means to taboo difference, and difference like the old taboo of sex will be harmonised. Look at the taboo of sex? now when we see scantily clad figures on tv we do not become bashfull or prudish but recognise it as a scantily clad figure on tv, in the same way we will come to recognise the identities of different communities and people and realise that this is what forms the rich tapestry of civilsation. anyway go to go indy:up: [/QUOTE]
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