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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member1" data-source="post: 62572" data-attributes="member: 4703">i agree that many/most religions include oppression of women.&nbsp; this is one of the first things that drew me to sikhism, actually...&nbsp; the fact that the oppression of women which is common in the judeo/christian/islamic tradition is absent in our teachings.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; that and our glorious stories of Mai Bhago and Mata Sundari and others. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp;however i think you&#039;re skipping over the growing number of vocal feminists from every religion who are trying to CHANGE the way people look at women through religion.&nbsp;&nbsp; do a google search on &quot;muslim feminist&quot; and you may be surprised at the number of women who are fighting for their rights within the religion that is probably considered the most oppressive to women. &nbsp;why do you say my &quot;claim&quot; to being a feminist?&nbsp; that&#039;s kind of an insulting way to put it.&nbsp; i&#039;m a woman, intelligent, in a &quot;men&#039;s&quot; world, with a &quot;man&#039;s&quot; job, what else can i be? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;yes, i suppose that as a sikh, i already believe in the inborn equality of women so maybe there&#039;s no need to add &quot;feminist&quot; on there, but i&#039;m american, i was a feminist before i was a sikh, so i guess it&#039;s habbit to consider myself one.&nbsp;&nbsp; feminism is a huge and complex topic, i&#039;m&nbsp; not sure how you would like me to define myself so that i fit your notions of feminism, but rest assured, being a man you probably wouldn&#039;t understand anyway. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Archived_Member1, post: 62572, member: 4703"] i agree that many/most religions include oppression of women. this is one of the first things that drew me to sikhism, actually... the fact that the oppression of women which is common in the judeo/christian/islamic tradition is absent in our teachings. :) that and our glorious stories of Mai Bhago and Mata Sundari and others. :D however i think you're skipping over the growing number of vocal feminists from every religion who are trying to CHANGE the way people look at women through religion. do a google search on "muslim feminist" and you may be surprised at the number of women who are fighting for their rights within the religion that is probably considered the most oppressive to women. why do you say my "claim" to being a feminist? that's kind of an insulting way to put it. i'm a woman, intelligent, in a "men's" world, with a "man's" job, what else can i be? :) yes, i suppose that as a sikh, i already believe in the inborn equality of women so maybe there's no need to add "feminist" on there, but i'm american, i was a feminist before i was a sikh, so i guess it's habbit to consider myself one. feminism is a huge and complex topic, i'm not sure how you would like me to define myself so that i fit your notions of feminism, but rest assured, being a man you probably wouldn't understand anyway. :D [/QUOTE]

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