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<blockquote data-quote="Harry Haller" data-source="post: 219196" data-attributes="member: 14641"><p>I am not hugely keen to discuss the the state of affairs in the panth or the politics of the punjab, however I find your reply most strange, very few see things the way I do, in fact, I worry when people see things the way that I do, it normally means some sort of mental illness or defect, but I digress, its a great poem, don't get me wrong, but my question still stands, and your answer simply will not do on a philosophy forum, are you saying that the Khalsa you describe above only exists in you? but that again, does not make sense, it is the sort of thing that my mother gets in abundance on her whatsapp, yes, its pretty, yes its a nice poem, but in terms of hard facts, I find it lacking somewhat, yet your answer is that you cannot see what I cannot see what you can see......</p><p></p><p></p><p>Khalsa is creations best outcome. in which case, why can I not see it anywhere, and why cannot anyone show me? The only end result of this has to be the panth and the goings on in the Punjab, neither of which show us in our best light. </p><p></p><p>It is the diamond that did not need to be mined. But it does need to be mined, to my mind, to be Khalsa takes a hell of a lot of effort, discipline and focus,</p><p></p><p>It is the heart beating outside of the body. This implies sangat or panth, again, neither show us in much glory</p><p></p><p>It is the untraceable force in society. Again, it can be traced back to Vaisakhi</p><p></p><p>It is the personality of the wise. In which case, it would appear there is a lacking of wise folks in our community, but not a lacking of s class mercedes cars and gold necklaces</p><p></p><p>It is the character of ultimate power. and do tell what power do we have, jack shit from what I can see, We cannot even run a small state, we have ended up worshiping the very book that should have been read, and celebrating birthdays we were told not, we hang pictures up that should never be hung up</p><p></p><p>It is the beauty stemming from the third eye. The third eye is a concept of Vedic culture, like arti, and idol worship, all three of which are fast infiltrating Sikhism</p><p></p><p>It is the unsummarised by words. you mean mystical and hard to understand, yet Sikhism was set up to be just the opposite, </p><p></p><p>When Khalsa is, there is no other. In that case clearly Khalsa is not</p><p></p><p>It is pleasing to God. Is Sikhism a religion where we try and please God? Is pleasing God important? Can God be pleased? Can God be angry? Can God be upset or a bit {censored}ed off? my understanding is that God in Sikhism is way way above human emotions</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry Haller, post: 219196, member: 14641"] I am not hugely keen to discuss the the state of affairs in the panth or the politics of the punjab, however I find your reply most strange, very few see things the way I do, in fact, I worry when people see things the way that I do, it normally means some sort of mental illness or defect, but I digress, its a great poem, don't get me wrong, but my question still stands, and your answer simply will not do on a philosophy forum, are you saying that the Khalsa you describe above only exists in you? but that again, does not make sense, it is the sort of thing that my mother gets in abundance on her whatsapp, yes, its pretty, yes its a nice poem, but in terms of hard facts, I find it lacking somewhat, yet your answer is that you cannot see what I cannot see what you can see...... Khalsa is creations best outcome. in which case, why can I not see it anywhere, and why cannot anyone show me? The only end result of this has to be the panth and the goings on in the Punjab, neither of which show us in our best light. It is the diamond that did not need to be mined. But it does need to be mined, to my mind, to be Khalsa takes a hell of a lot of effort, discipline and focus, It is the heart beating outside of the body. This implies sangat or panth, again, neither show us in much glory It is the untraceable force in society. Again, it can be traced back to Vaisakhi It is the personality of the wise. In which case, it would appear there is a lacking of wise folks in our community, but not a lacking of s class mercedes cars and gold necklaces It is the character of ultimate power. and do tell what power do we have, jack shit from what I can see, We cannot even run a small state, we have ended up worshiping the very book that should have been read, and celebrating birthdays we were told not, we hang pictures up that should never be hung up It is the beauty stemming from the third eye. The third eye is a concept of Vedic culture, like arti, and idol worship, all three of which are fast infiltrating Sikhism It is the unsummarised by words. you mean mystical and hard to understand, yet Sikhism was set up to be just the opposite, When Khalsa is, there is no other. In that case clearly Khalsa is not It is pleasing to God. Is Sikhism a religion where we try and please God? Is pleasing God important? Can God be pleased? Can God be angry? Can God be upset or a bit {censored}ed off? my understanding is that God in Sikhism is way way above human emotions [/QUOTE]
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