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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 93409" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="color: #333333">he original tale of Adam and Eve, and similarly related in the Sri <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-granth-sahib/" target="_blank">Guru Granth Sahib</a> Ji states mans downfall when he was lured and submitted to a sinful women. [/FONT]</span><span style="color: #333333">Adams[/FONT]</span><span style="color: #333333"> first wife is greatly maligned. This initial story establishes all truth and actuality in the world if understood. The Supreme Spirit fathers only because it lacks the frenzied zeal and ambition for gain mostly because it is rich in Spirit, akin to its humanity.</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><strong>Prove me SGGS supports your story with an example.</strong>[/FONT]</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong> That is not true either</strong> <strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੁਕਮੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਰਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਸੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੁਝਾਏ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਆ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੰਤ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਚਾਰੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੁਧੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਰਮਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੁਲਾਏ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੯</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Exceedingly strict is thine command to act upon but through the Guru, hardly one realises it.</span></span> </strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Thus says <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/" target="_blank">Nanak</a>, what can be poor creatures do, when thou misleadest them into doubt?</span></span> (SGGS441)</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">This is perverse thinking.[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">Ignorant mortals say so, the one who has experienced the eternal Lord just shares what is experienced. I doubt you are bigger than the enlightened Guru.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"> Enlightened divine souls and knower’s of Gods truth cannot assign wilful ignorance and carnal acts to Waheguru[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">First Waheguru needs to be understood, who sees Him separate, and sees the action separate and Judge the enlightened one with own limited perception has no inkling what Waheguru is accepted in Gurmat.. All is expressed in Sree Guru Granth Sahib, any thing said contrary to SGGS is meaningless for the Guru Follower.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: #333333">. Mankind is led by evil inclination only in the era of Kalyug.[/FONT]</span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333">Kalyug arises when Shiva is cast from his great throne and submitted by fiends to an evil woman’s will[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">That is your opinion not necessarily acceptable to all especially not to Guru Nanak followers. As per Gurbani, when Lord is forgotten, that is the bad time; Guru doesn’t describe Yugas in context of Shiva ji either.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: #333333">. Thereafter witchcraft usage, feminism and immorality increase in measure. This occurs each millennia.[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">Witchcraft is not accepted as a realty in Guru Nanak House, give me one example from Gurbani to prove me wrong.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"> The Supreme Spirit did not create, incite and lead people to evil[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">As per above Guru bachan, HE causes the people to go astray. Who experienced Him, sees nothing but HIM in good or bad. They are not choosy as you are.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: #333333">, rather one inaction caused the advent of evil, which thereafter deceived and weaves a web of lies to retain its hold upon the world. It is wrong to say God leads man to evil, although his complicit involvement may appear at times to imply this thinking.[/FONT]</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">May be it is wrong to say since you do not believe in said Guru Bachan but I do because Guru sees HIM the Master doer, repeatedly it is said that He causes it. Here is another example SGGS 1257 .Gurmat doesn’t depend on personal or established philosophies[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਕਾਰੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਰਮਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੁਲਾਏ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Nirankār ākār hai āpe āpe bẖaram bẖulā▫e.</span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Formless Lord is formed by Himself. He Himself deludes in doubt.</span></span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਤਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਤੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਾਏ</span> </a></span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Kar kar karṯā āpe vekẖai jiṯ bẖāvai ṯiṯ lā▫e.</span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Creating the Creation, the Creator Himself beholds it; He enjoins us as He pleases.</span></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Should I thank you for calling Guru thinking perverse, I don’t think so. I would just say it is sad I have to read it</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.</span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 93409, member: 5889"] [COLOR=#333333]he original tale of Adam and Eve, and similarly related in the Sri [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-granth-sahib/"]Guru Granth Sahib[/URL] Ji states mans downfall when he was lured and submitted to a sinful women. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]Adams[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] first wife is greatly maligned. This initial story establishes all truth and actuality in the world if understood. The Supreme Spirit fathers only because it lacks the frenzied zeal and ambition for gain mostly because it is rich in Spirit, akin to its humanity. [B]Prove me SGGS supports your story with an example.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B] That is not true either[/B] [B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੁਕਮੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੇਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਖਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਰਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਸੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%9D%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੁਝਾਏ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਉ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੰਤ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਚਾਰੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤੁਧੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਰਮਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਭੁਲਾਏ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੯[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Exceedingly strict is thine command to act upon but through the Guru, hardly one realises it.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Thus says [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/guru-nanak-dev/"]Nanak[/URL], what can be poor creatures do, when thou misleadest them into doubt?[/FONT][/COLOR] (SGGS441)[/B] [COLOR=#333333]This is perverse thinking.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]Ignorant mortals say so, the one who has experienced the eternal Lord just shares what is experienced. I doubt you are bigger than the enlightened Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#333333] Enlightened divine souls and knower’s of Gods truth cannot assign wilful ignorance and carnal acts to Waheguru[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]First Waheguru needs to be understood, who sees Him separate, and sees the action separate and Judge the enlightened one with own limited perception has no inkling what Waheguru is accepted in Gurmat.. All is expressed in Sree Guru Granth Sahib, any thing said contrary to SGGS is meaningless for the Guru Follower.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#333333]. Mankind is led by evil inclination only in the era of Kalyug.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Kalyug arises when Shiva is cast from his great throne and submitted by fiends to an evil woman’s will[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]That is your opinion not necessarily acceptable to all especially not to Guru Nanak followers. As per Gurbani, when Lord is forgotten, that is the bad time; Guru doesn’t describe Yugas in context of Shiva ji either.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#333333]. Thereafter witchcraft usage, feminism and immorality increase in measure. This occurs each millennia.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]Witchcraft is not accepted as a realty in Guru Nanak House, give me one example from Gurbani to prove me wrong.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#333333] The Supreme Spirit did not create, incite and lead people to evil[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]As per above Guru bachan, HE causes the people to go astray. Who experienced Him, sees nothing but HIM in good or bad. They are not choosy as you are.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#333333], rather one inaction caused the advent of evil, which thereafter deceived and weaves a web of lies to retain its hold upon the world. It is wrong to say God leads man to evil, although his complicit involvement may appear at times to imply this thinking.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333]May be it is wrong to say since you do not believe in said Guru Bachan but I do because Guru sees HIM the Master doer, repeatedly it is said that He causes it. Here is another example SGGS 1257 .Gurmat doesn’t depend on personal or established philosophies[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਕਾਰੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਰਮਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਭੁਲਾਏ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][FONT=Tahoma]Nirankār ākār hai āpe āpe bẖaram bẖulā▫e.[/FONT] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Formless Lord is formed by Himself. He Himself deludes in doubt.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਤਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਖੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਵੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਤੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਾਏ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B][B][FONT=Tahoma]Kar kar karṯā āpe vekẖai jiṯ bẖāvai ṯiṯ lā▫e.[/FONT] [/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Creating the Creation, the Creator Himself beholds it; He enjoins us as He pleases.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Should I thank you for calling Guru thinking perverse, I don’t think so. I would just say it is sad I have to read it[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma].[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [/QUOTE]
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