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Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi 1 Sabad 1 / ਸੁਖਮਨੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਸਟਪਦੀ ੧ ਸਬਦ ੧
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<blockquote data-quote="BhagatSingh" data-source="post: 159267" data-attributes="member: 2610"><p>Yes Ambarsaria ji, but better late than never.</p><p></p><p>That line is quite interesting because it is not by reading and understanding Spiritual Texts that we obtain liberation but through meditation. This does not actually challenge the authority of the Vedas, Puranas and Simritees because that is what they are saying as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Freed Kote Wala Teeka is hard to read (it's in some dialect of Hindi) but it's quite good, in places better than Prof Sahib Singh's teeka. That particular translation I quoted from the Free Kote Wala Teeka is more accurate that Prof Sahib Singh. They are both saying the same thing however, Freed Kote Wala Teeka's interpretation is closer to the original. </p><p></p><p>If you have any specific examples of where it fails let me know as I have not read the whole teeka.</p><p></p><p>There is no harm in consulting the Freed Kote Wala Teeka in addition to Prof Sahib Singh:</p><p><strong>ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭ ਖੋਜੇ ਕਹੂ ਨ ਊਬਰਨਾ ॥</strong></p><p><strong>ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਉ ਰਾਮਹਿ ਜੰਪਉ ਮੇਟਿ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨਾ ॥੪॥੫॥ </strong></p><p></p><p>ਹਮਨੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਤੀਆਂ ਔਰ ਬੇਦ ਔਰ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਖੋਜੇ ਹੈਂ ਪਰੰਤੂ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਨਾਮ ਸੇ ਕਾਲ ਸੇ (ਊਬਰਨਾ) ਬਚਨਾ (ਕਹੂ) ਕਿਤੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਲਿਖਾ ਹੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਰਾਮ ਕੋ ਜਪੋ ਇਉਂ ਜਨਮਨਾ ਮਰਨਾ ਮੇਟ ਦੇਹੋ॥੪॥੫॥</p><p>I have searched Vedas, Puranas and Simritees, and the idea that without meditation on the Name one can obtain liberation, is not written anywhere.</p><p></p><p>The gist of it is the same as mentioned above in Prof Sahib Singh's teeka but it is closer to the context of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and also consistent with the message of those texts. It is true that Puranas speak about meditation on God as a means to liberation. The story of Prahlaad which is told again and again in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, comes from the Vishnu Purana. Prahlaad was a young and very passionate <em>bhagat</em> of God. He defied even the authority of his father, the King Hiranyakashap. Hirayakashap wanted everyone under his rule to worship him as the Lord. However, Prahlaad refused and continued to meditate on Vishnu's (God's) Name. He had been doing so from a very early age since he grew up in the company of Vishnu Bhagats (brahmins, sadhus, pujaris, and Naarad) and attained liberation (His mother (pregnant at the time) had been somehow separated from the Kingdom and was given shelter amongst Vishnu Bhagats (brahmins, sadhus, pujaris, and Naarad). She gave birth to Prahlaad in their gathering. Both mother and son were heavily influenced by these religious people. After several years, Prahlaad and her mother finally return to the Kingdom and that's when the trouble began).</p><p></p><p>Bhagat Kabir ji gives Prahlaad's example in the following shabad along with Dhruv (or Dhroo) who is also a character in Vishnu Purana:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Satsriakal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BhagatSingh, post: 159267, member: 2610"] Yes Ambarsaria ji, but better late than never. That line is quite interesting because it is not by reading and understanding Spiritual Texts that we obtain liberation but through meditation. This does not actually challenge the authority of the Vedas, Puranas and Simritees because that is what they are saying as well. Freed Kote Wala Teeka is hard to read (it's in some dialect of Hindi) but it's quite good, in places better than Prof Sahib Singh's teeka. That particular translation I quoted from the Free Kote Wala Teeka is more accurate that Prof Sahib Singh. They are both saying the same thing however, Freed Kote Wala Teeka's interpretation is closer to the original. If you have any specific examples of where it fails let me know as I have not read the whole teeka. There is no harm in consulting the Freed Kote Wala Teeka in addition to Prof Sahib Singh: [B]ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭ ਖੋਜੇ ਕਹੂ ਨ ਊਬਰਨਾ ॥ ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਉ ਰਾਮਹਿ ਜੰਪਉ ਮੇਟਿ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨਾ ॥੪॥੫॥ [/B] ਹਮਨੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਤੀਆਂ ਔਰ ਬੇਦ ਔਰ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਖੋਜੇ ਹੈਂ ਪਰੰਤੂ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਨਾਮ ਸੇ ਕਾਲ ਸੇ (ਊਬਰਨਾ) ਬਚਨਾ (ਕਹੂ) ਕਿਤੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਲਿਖਾ ਹੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਰਾਮ ਕੋ ਜਪੋ ਇਉਂ ਜਨਮਨਾ ਮਰਨਾ ਮੇਟ ਦੇਹੋ॥੪॥੫॥ I have searched Vedas, Puranas and Simritees, and the idea that without meditation on the Name one can obtain liberation, is not written anywhere. The gist of it is the same as mentioned above in Prof Sahib Singh's teeka but it is closer to the context of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and also consistent with the message of those texts. It is true that Puranas speak about meditation on God as a means to liberation. The story of Prahlaad which is told again and again in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, comes from the Vishnu Purana. Prahlaad was a young and very passionate [I]bhagat[/I] of God. He defied even the authority of his father, the King Hiranyakashap. Hirayakashap wanted everyone under his rule to worship him as the Lord. However, Prahlaad refused and continued to meditate on Vishnu's (God's) Name. He had been doing so from a very early age since he grew up in the company of Vishnu Bhagats (brahmins, sadhus, pujaris, and Naarad) and attained liberation (His mother (pregnant at the time) had been somehow separated from the Kingdom and was given shelter amongst Vishnu Bhagats (brahmins, sadhus, pujaris, and Naarad). She gave birth to Prahlaad in their gathering. Both mother and son were heavily influenced by these religious people. After several years, Prahlaad and her mother finally return to the Kingdom and that's when the trouble began). Bhagat Kabir ji gives Prahlaad's example in the following shabad along with Dhruv (or Dhroo) who is also a character in Vishnu Purana: Satsriakal [/QUOTE]
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