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<blockquote data-quote="calkaur" data-source="post: 152074" data-attributes="member: 15893"><p><strong>Re: "Submissive" Does not Mean Subservient.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Dear Harry,</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I understand where you are coming from. In the past I would have agreed with your sentiments. However, after taking the time to study the meaning and context of ancient scripture, especially as handed down from the Magesterium (the teaching office of the Church) I now have a better understanding on many things. ffice<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />ffice" /><?"urn:<img src="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/ /></FONT></P><P></P><P><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P><P><FONT face=Arial>You asked:</FONT></P><P>[quote="harry haller, post: 152054"]</P><P><FONT face=Arial>why embrace such a view that is clearly at odds with 21st century living.</FONT>[/quote]</P><P></P><P><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P><P><FONT face=Arial>I don’t think the word of God will ever go out of style. I understand that the people of the 21st century have become more educated, more liberalized, and more secular but I don’t think that makes the Bible outdated. </FONT></P><P> </P><P></P><P><FONT face=" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">By your logic we can assume that since it is acceptable in 21st century living for men and women to dress provocatively by exposing many parts of their bodies in public, then we should be preparing ourselves and our grandchildren to start walking around naked in the next century because that’s where it looks like we’re heading. </span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">If a man truly loves his wife, would it be so hard for her to obey him on what he believes to be in the best interest of his family? If a man truly loves God, then he will love his wife as God commands, and he would never ask of her to obey him in something that is contrary to God's will. We are all called to be holy, and the husband and wife help each other and sanctify each other on their path to heaven.</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">In the Christian marriage relationship, it is the husband's privilege to portray the headship of Christ over the church by his loving and sacrificial leadership. The wife's privelege is to symbolically represent the church in its submission to Christ, its Head. The husband symbolizes Christ's headship, while the wife symbolizes the submission of the church to her Head. The divinely appointed role of marriage as a symbol of Christ and the church is therefore the basis for the attitudes and behavior of the Christian marriage.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">It is wonderful that you consider your wife your equal, because she <em><strong>is</strong></em> equal to you in <em><strong>human dignity</strong></em>. How many husbands do I know that treat their wives with humiliation? Many. And worse, these men use the Bible in a perverted and hypocrital way to justify their actions. Christianity does not teach that women are to be submissive and men are dominant; it teaches that men and women have different and complimentary roles to play. Moral teaching places obligations on both men and women to treat each other in an ethical and respectful manner. To say that men and women are different and have different roles does not contradict this. In Christianity men and women are both seen as equally important.</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I guess in a feministic world, being obedient to one's husband (except in matters of sin) seems to be more painful to one's pride more than anything else. </span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Here is when our faith in God and a prayerful life is instrumental. We all have our "crosses to bear" and we must reach out to God for His help in carrying those crosses. We have no power to change anyone. Only He can do that by His grace alone.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="calkaur, post: 152074, member: 15893"] [b]Re: "Submissive" Does not Mean Subservient.[/b] [FONT=Arial]Dear Harry,[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I understand where you are coming from. In the past I would have agreed with your sentiments. However, after taking the time to study the meaning and context of ancient scripture, especially as handed down from the Magesterium (the teaching office of the Church) I now have a better understanding on many things. ffice:office" /><?"urn:[IMG]http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/ /></FONT></P><P></P><P><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P><P><FONT face=Arial>You asked:</FONT></P><P>[quote="harry haller, post: 152054"]</P><P><FONT face=Arial>why embrace such a view that is clearly at odds with 21st century living.</FONT>[/quote]</P><P></P><P><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P><P><FONT face=Arial>I don’t think the word of God will ever go out of style. I understand that the people of the 21st century have become more educated, more liberalized, and more secular but I don’t think that makes the Bible outdated. </FONT></P><P> </P><P></P><P><FONT face=[/IMG][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]By your logic we can assume that since it is acceptable in 21st century living for men and women to dress provocatively by exposing many parts of their bodies in public, then we should be preparing ourselves and our grandchildren to start walking around naked in the next century because that’s where it looks like we’re heading. [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]If a man truly loves his wife, would it be so hard for her to obey him on what he believes to be in the best interest of his family? If a man truly loves God, then he will love his wife as God commands, and he would never ask of her to obey him in something that is contrary to God's will. We are all called to be holy, and the husband and wife help each other and sanctify each other on their path to heaven.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]In the Christian marriage relationship, it is the husband's privilege to portray the headship of Christ over the church by his loving and sacrificial leadership. The wife's privelege is to symbolically represent the church in its submission to Christ, its Head. The husband symbolizes Christ's headship, while the wife symbolizes the submission of the church to her Head. The divinely appointed role of marriage as a symbol of Christ and the church is therefore the basis for the attitudes and behavior of the Christian marriage.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]It is wonderful that you consider your wife your equal, because she [I][B]is[/B][/I] equal to you in [I][B]human dignity[/B][/I]. How many husbands do I know that treat their wives with humiliation? Many. And worse, these men use the Bible in a perverted and hypocrital way to justify their actions. Christianity does not teach that women are to be submissive and men are dominant; it teaches that men and women have different and complimentary roles to play. Moral teaching places obligations on both men and women to treat each other in an ethical and respectful manner. To say that men and women are different and have different roles does not contradict this. In Christianity men and women are both seen as equally important.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I guess in a feministic world, being obedient to one's husband (except in matters of sin) seems to be more painful to one's pride more than anything else. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Here is when our faith in God and a prayerful life is instrumental. We all have our "crosses to bear" and we must reach out to God for His help in carrying those crosses. We have no power to change anyone. Only He can do that by His grace alone.[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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