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Stop Disrespecting Satguru Nanak
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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 73550" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> STOP DISRESPECTING SATGURU NANAK</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">It is seen and observed that people stray from the real principles of their religions.Usually it happens due to religion -competition as it is done in business marketing. In this context only those suffer who are really interested in taking advantage of the beautiful things in the religions they believe in. In competition, such advocates of a religion claim that their religion is the best. Here starts the problem of co existence. They high light the miracles around their religion; they issue guarantees that if their religion is joined, certain rewards or liberation are certain. Contrary to the religious approach, they are the one who lose temper, and some time all this turn into violence if opposition is faced. I shall not point out this kind of behaviour in other religions but I shall deal this problem in my faith, Sikhism with examples taken from Guru Granth Sahib ji.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> The sources of history of Sikhs are infested with lies, cooked up stories and explanations which have shown seeds of illogical mentality and this is totally against Gurmat. Examples are many but I give you only one. It is about the writer Koer Singh who wrote Gurbilas patshahi dasmi he admits that he was a Sikh by name only. He writes that 10th Nanak worshipped Hindu Devi Durga in his previous life. It is an example of his extreme stupidity. How any one can believe that trash because in fact Nanak panth is totally against deities-worship, it is a pure blasphemy. There are others who write that Guru Sahibaan used to take” bhang” a drug. Then, a European, Trump who wrote about Sikhs with biased approach because while writing he couldn’t take out superiority complex about his own religion. He was though declared biased by another secular writer Macauliffe in His Book “The Sikh Religion”. Khushwant Singh (not a Sikh) called Sikhism as an off shoot of Hinduism even though it is written in GGS Ji that Gurmat disregards different practices of Islam and Hinduism. Story goes on. Guru -devoted or fair Scholars are still struggling to make things straight. This is the injustice we are already facing with, there are others who are bent on to distort Sikhism, I shall not discuss about them here at this time.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now come to another class of Sikhs who take meaning of Gurbani literally and start their advocacy of calling Satguru incarnation of Creator. <strong>Why so powerful The Infinite would come into a human form leaving rest of His creation unattended. Why couldn’t He use His power to guide His people through enlightened ones? In this context, Sikhism stand firm on a reason that The Almighty is above birth or death.</strong> As many know in Sikh moolmantra Satguru calls Him Akaalmurt Ajuni(beyond death and birth.). Still some Sikhs start taking a few lines out of context from Guru Granth Sahib to prove their maligning views right. Let’s see those kinds of examples if they support their false claim.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">AS abiding by the basic principle of Satguru Nanak, 5th Nanak declares</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ ਮੁਖੁ ਜਲਉ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਜੋਨੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਰਹਿਓ ਸਮਾਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1136}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In essence cursed are those who say Almighty incarnates since he is beyond birth and death, He permeates in His creation) </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now let’s discuss the following waak, Guru says that bani becomes Guru because it leads to Him.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਸਾਰੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਗੁਰੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਹੈ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜਨੁ ਮਾਨੈ ਪਰਤਖਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ ਹੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਹੈ ਪਸਰਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਖਾਵਾਰੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">982}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In essence it says that Bani of Guru becomes Guru as it guides towards Him, as it is filled with ambrosial nectar. He permeates in every thing, one eats what is sown</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪ ਹੀ ਧਾਰਨ ਧਾਰੇ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਹੈ ਦੇਖਾਰੇ ਬਰਨੁ ਚਿਹਨੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਮੁਖ ਨ ਮਸਾਰੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1386}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> In essence He Himself supports the Universe, revealing His All-powerful Creative Potency. He has no color, form, mouth or beard.</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1386}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Another one below, in essence, numerous praise you but are unable to know you Who you bless, knows you.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਅੰਤ ਅੰਤੁ ਇਕੁ ਤਿਲੁ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਸੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾ ਕਉ ਹੋਂਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਸੁ ਜਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੁਮਹਿ ਮਿਲਾਸੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1386}</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In the following waak 5 th Guru praises Satguru Nanak but before it, grace of HarJi (God) is asked a kind grace.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਨਿ ਧੰਨਿ ਤੇ ਧੰਨਿ ਜਨ ਜਿਹ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਯਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਿਨ ਪਰਸਿਅਉ ਸਿ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਦੁਹ ਥੇ ਰਹਿਓ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1386}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> While praising Satguru Nanak, in Saweeye mukh wak Mehla 5, prayer is done to the Almighty to have grace and His acceptance. Then Guru Sahib says” who met Satguru Nanak got librated because Guru Nanak guided him/her to Him<strong>” Why again Almighty comes in praise first then Satguru? Answer is simple, Satguru is being complimented. Dominating factor is powerful Creator.</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Again prayer is done to Almighty, when Satguru Nanak is being complimented in high esteem. It goes on. Why then people ignore and stick to one sentence. They have same kind of problem to be in competition with others who call their prophets a God and religion the best one.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਨਤਿ ਕਰਉ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਜੇ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਭਾਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਹੁ ਦਰਸੁ ਮਨਿ ਚਾਉ ਭਗਤਿ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਠਹਰਾਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1387}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In above waak again prayer is done to Him to have His grace to experience Him as His devotee’s mind is happy and ready to see Him.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In the following waak many get confused to see the difference of Guru and Almighty</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਲਿਓ ਚਰਾਗੁ ਅੰਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਰ ਮਹਿ ਸਭ ਕਲਿ ਉਧਰੀ ਇਕ ਨਾਮ ਧਰਮ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਪ੍ਰਗਟੁ ਸਗਲ ਹਰਿ ਭਵਨ ਮਹਿ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੯</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1387}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: purple">(</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">in essence Oh Almighty, Satguru Nanak who is like you, has dispelled ignorance in the world with your Naam just as a lamp is lit and darkness goes away.)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">More</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰੁ ਗਹਿ ਲੇਹੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾਟਿ ਭਰੰਮ ਭਰੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1387}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In essence, Mercy on me o Almighty so that my doubts and illusions go away.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> Basically it is HIM only. Satguru is praised because he led people to Him.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The following waak makes it clearer</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਧਿਆਇ ਬਰਦਾਤਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਤ ਸਹਾਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਬਿਖਿਆਤਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਾਸੁ ਚਰਨ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਸਾਵਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਉ ਪਰਮ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1389}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In bhatta sawayee Bhat says” with undivided concentration I meditate on the Giver who is support of His devotees and I seek blessing to praise Satgur Nanak”. <strong>Why the Almighty’s grace is asked for to praise Satguru.if Satguru is an incarnation of Him</strong>.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now look the reality behind this, in the following waak holy persons like Ravidas, jai dev, kabir ji, all sing praises of Satguru Nanak Wait a minute, Kabir born before Satguru Nanak, how he can sing praises of Satguru Nanak. Answer is clear, Bhat ji is thinking that in after life these holy men are singing praises of Satguru Nanak who were guided people to be in love with Him. It is sheer a praise, a compliment the way we do of people we like, love and respect. Haven’t you heard people saying about their love ones after death” he/she is with the lord” </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵੈ ਰਵਿਦਾਸੁ ਭਗਤੁ ਜੈਦੇਵ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮਾ ਭਗਤੁ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਸਮ ਲੋਚਨ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1390}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> Now let’s see what 3rd Nanak says</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ ਵੇਖਣ ਕਉ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ਲੋਚੈ ਨਵ ਖੰਡ ਜਗਤਿ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> ਤੁਧੁ ਆਪੇ ਆਪੁ ਰਖਿਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਚਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਆਪੇ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਵਾਰਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੂ ਆਪੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵਹਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰਿਆ </span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span></strong><strong><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: purple">311}</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> In essence every body wants to meet The Satguru whom all solute. O Almighty it is your grace. You glow in Satguru and have done all this. <strong>Actually it is you who have made Guru and it is your grace that Satgur is worshipped.</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Read more on this very subject</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਚੁ ਸਚਾ ਸਭ ਦੂ ਵਡਾ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਲਏ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਟਿਕੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">304}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> Again in the above waak, Almighty is praised. He is above all. Satguru just inspires and blesses.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Here Satguru Nanak expresses himself about the grace of Almighty</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰੀ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਾ ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਮਾਰੀ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">’’’’’’’</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">In essence O Almighty when you bestowed your grace on me then I eliminated ego completely (With his grace ego disappears.)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Examples in Guru Granth Sahib are numerous against these misguiding views.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">……………..</span></span></span></p><p><a href="http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/darpan2/0879.html#TOP#TOP" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">TOP OF PAGE</span></u></span></strong></a></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Guru Granth Sahib, besides praise of Satguru who leads to him, those are also praised who are in tuned with Almighty</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਿਲਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">492}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਜਿਨਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਕਹਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">593}</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Let’s read the following and find the meaning of “bani nirankar hai”</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Before talking about Bani, 3rd Nanak praises the Almighty first, the people who praise Him. In the following, then he praises bani which is a pure praise of Almighty and and says bani itself is Him because it is all about Him. Stress is on bani because its’ central idea, that is Almighty. If any bani is there but is not written in His praise, it is called false one. In bani there is not a single stanza where Almighty is not praised. Meaning goes on “No one is equal to Almighty” So Guru continues: Praise Him, it happens what he wishes. Praise His Name, people in tuned to Guru taste this ambrosial nectar (what nectar? Bani that leads to Him). Praise Him who is realized with His grace. Satgur says that the persons in tuned to Guru continuously enjoy Naam and are praise worthy.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਹੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਅਗਮ ਅਥਾਹੁ ਹੈ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਸਚਾ ਸੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਵੇਪਰਵਾਹੁ ਹੈ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਹੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਮੀ ਪਾਈਐ ਆਪਿ ਦਇਆ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਏਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> {</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੰਨਾ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">515}</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So by taking out just one sentence and doing an advocacy that goes against the Gurmat is best example of ignorance. Please do not disrespect Satguru Nanak who declares that the Almighty is beyond birth and death. That is a basic principle of Sikhism, period.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">We Sikhs do not have competition with others. We are taught by our Guru Sahiban that the best religion on this earth is do HIS praise and <strong>seriously to fall in love with Him.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>We are well guided to co exist and what we should do is clear</strong>; Following Guru waak says it all</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> (GGS ji 266)</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Of all religions, the best is to praise the Name of Almighty and maintain pure conduct this way.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 73550, member: 5889"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] STOP DISRESPECTING SATGURU NANAK[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It is seen and observed that people stray from the real principles of their religions.Usually it happens due to religion -competition as it is done in business marketing. In this context only those suffer who are really interested in taking advantage of the beautiful things in the religions they believe in. In competition, such advocates of a religion claim that their religion is the best. Here starts the problem of co existence. They high light the miracles around their religion; they issue guarantees that if their religion is joined, certain rewards or liberation are certain. Contrary to the religious approach, they are the one who lose temper, and some time all this turn into violence if opposition is faced. I shall not point out this kind of behaviour in other religions but I shall deal this problem in my faith, Sikhism with examples taken from Guru Granth Sahib ji.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] The sources of history of Sikhs are infested with lies, cooked up stories and explanations which have shown seeds of illogical mentality and this is totally against Gurmat. Examples are many but I give you only one. It is about the writer Koer Singh who wrote Gurbilas patshahi dasmi he admits that he was a Sikh by name only. He writes that 10th Nanak worshipped Hindu Devi Durga in his previous life. It is an example of his extreme stupidity. How any one can believe that trash because in fact Nanak panth is totally against deities-worship, it is a pure blasphemy. There are others who write that Guru Sahibaan used to take” bhang” a drug. Then, a European, Trump who wrote about Sikhs with biased approach because while writing he couldn’t take out superiority complex about his own religion. He was though declared biased by another secular writer Macauliffe in His Book “The Sikh Religion”. Khushwant Singh (not a Sikh) called Sikhism as an off shoot of Hinduism even though it is written in GGS Ji that Gurmat disregards different practices of Islam and Hinduism. Story goes on. Guru -devoted or fair Scholars are still struggling to make things straight. This is the injustice we are already facing with, there are others who are bent on to distort Sikhism, I shall not discuss about them here at this time.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Now come to another class of Sikhs who take meaning of Gurbani literally and start their advocacy of calling Satguru incarnation of Creator. [B]Why so powerful The Infinite would come into a human form leaving rest of His creation unattended. Why couldn’t He use His power to guide His people through enlightened ones? In this context, Sikhism stand firm on a reason that The Almighty is above birth or death.[/B] As many know in Sikh moolmantra Satguru calls Him Akaalmurt Ajuni(beyond death and birth.). Still some Sikhs start taking a few lines out of context from Guru Granth Sahib to prove their maligning views right. Let’s see those kinds of examples if they support their false claim.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]AS abiding by the basic principle of Satguru Nanak, 5th Nanak declares[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ ਮੁਖੁ ਜਲਉ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਜੋਨੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਰਹਿਓ ਸਮਾਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1136}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In essence cursed are those who say Almighty incarnates since he is beyond birth and death, He permeates in His creation) [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Now let’s discuss the following waak, Guru says that bani becomes Guru because it leads to Him.[/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਸਾਰੇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਗੁਰੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਹੈ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜਨੁ ਮਾਨੈ ਪਰਤਖਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭੁ ਹੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਹੈ ਪਸਰਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਖਾਵਾਰੇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]982}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In essence it says that Bani of Guru becomes Guru as it guides towards Him, as it is filled with ambrosial nectar. He permeates in every thing, one eats what is sown[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪ ਹੀ ਧਾਰਨ ਧਾਰੇ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਹੈ ਦੇਖਾਰੇ ਬਰਨੁ ਚਿਹਨੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਮੁਖ ਨ ਮਸਾਰੇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1386}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] In essence He Himself supports the Universe, revealing His All-powerful Creative Potency. He has no color, form, mouth or beard.[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1386}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Another one below, in essence, numerous praise you but are unable to know you Who you bless, knows you.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਅੰਤ ਅੰਤੁ ਇਕੁ ਤਿਲੁ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਸੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾ ਕਉ ਹੋਂਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਸੁ ਜਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੁਮਹਿ ਮਿਲਾਸੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1386}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In the following waak 5 th Guru praises Satguru Nanak but before it, grace of HarJi (God) is asked a kind grace.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਧੰਨਿ ਧੰਨਿ ਤੇ ਧੰਨਿ ਜਨ ਜਿਹ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਯਉ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਿਨ ਪਰਸਿਅਉ ਸਿ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਦੁਹ ਥੇ ਰਹਿਓ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1386}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] While praising Satguru Nanak, in Saweeye mukh wak Mehla 5, prayer is done to the Almighty to have grace and His acceptance. Then Guru Sahib says” who met Satguru Nanak got librated because Guru Nanak guided him/her to Him[B]” Why again Almighty comes in praise first then Satguru? Answer is simple, Satguru is being complimented. Dominating factor is powerful Creator.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Again prayer is done to Almighty, when Satguru Nanak is being complimented in high esteem. It goes on. Why then people ignore and stick to one sentence. They have same kind of problem to be in competition with others who call their prophets a God and religion the best one.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਨਤਿ ਕਰਉ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਜੇ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਭਾਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਹੁ ਦਰਸੁ ਮਨਿ ਚਾਉ ਭਗਤਿ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਠਹਰਾਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1387}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In above waak again prayer is done to Him to have His grace to experience Him as His devotee’s mind is happy and ready to see Him.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In the following waak many get confused to see the difference of Guru and Almighty[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਬਲਿਓ ਚਰਾਗੁ ਅੰਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਰ ਮਹਿ ਸਭ ਕਲਿ ਉਧਰੀ ਇਕ ਨਾਮ ਧਰਮ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਪ੍ਰਗਟੁ ਸਗਲ ਹਰਿ ਭਵਨ ਮਹਿ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੯[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1387}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=purple]([/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]in essence Oh Almighty, Satguru Nanak who is like you, has dispelled ignorance in the world with your Naam just as a lamp is lit and darkness goes away.)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]More[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰੁ ਗਹਿ ਲੇਹੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾਟਿ ਭਰੰਮ ਭਰੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1387}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In essence, Mercy on me o Almighty so that my doubts and illusions go away.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Basically it is HIM only. Satguru is praised because he led people to Him.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The following waak makes it clearer[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਧਿਆਇ ਬਰਦਾਤਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਤ ਸਹਾਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਬਿਖਿਆਤਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਤਾਸੁ ਚਰਨ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਸਾਵਉ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਤਉ ਪਰਮ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵਉ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1389}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In bhatta sawayee Bhat says” with undivided concentration I meditate on the Giver who is support of His devotees and I seek blessing to praise Satgur Nanak”. [B]Why the Almighty’s grace is asked for to praise Satguru.if Satguru is an incarnation of Him[/B].[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Now look the reality behind this, in the following waak holy persons like Ravidas, jai dev, kabir ji, all sing praises of Satguru Nanak Wait a minute, Kabir born before Satguru Nanak, how he can sing praises of Satguru Nanak. Answer is clear, Bhat ji is thinking that in after life these holy men are singing praises of Satguru Nanak who were guided people to be in love with Him. It is sheer a praise, a compliment the way we do of people we like, love and respect. Haven’t you heard people saying about their love ones after death” he/she is with the lord” [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵੈ ਰਵਿਦਾਸੁ ਭਗਤੁ ਜੈਦੇਵ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਚਨ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮਾ ਭਗਤੁ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਸਮ ਲੋਚਨ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]1390}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Now let’s see what 3rd Nanak says[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ ਵੇਖਣ ਕਉ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ਲੋਚੈ ਨਵ ਖੰਡ ਜਗਤਿ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਤੁਧੁ ਆਪੇ ਆਪੁ ਰਖਿਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਚਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਆਪੇ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਵਾਰਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][B][FONT=Raavi]ਤੂ ਆਪੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵਹਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰਿਆ [/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=purple]311}[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] In essence every body wants to meet The Satguru whom all solute. O Almighty it is your grace. You glow in Satguru and have done all this. [B]Actually it is you who have made Guru and it is your grace that Satgur is worshipped.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Read more on this very subject[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਸਚੁ ਸਚਾ ਸਭ ਦੂ ਵਡਾ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਲਏ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਟਿਕੇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]304}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Again in the above waak, Almighty is praised. He is above all. Satguru just inspires and blesses.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Here Satguru Nanak expresses himself about the grace of Almighty[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰੀ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਤਾ ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਮਾਰੀ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman]’’’’’’’[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Raavi][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]In essence O Almighty when you bestowed your grace on me then I eliminated ego completely (With his grace ego disappears.)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Examples in Guru Granth Sahib are numerous against these misguiding views.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]……………..[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [URL="http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/darpan2/0879.html#TOP#TOP"][B][FONT=Helvetica][U][COLOR=#0000ff]TOP OF PAGE[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/B][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In Guru Granth Sahib, besides praise of Satguru who leads to him, those are also praised who are in tuned with Almighty[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਿਲਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]492}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਜਿਨਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਕਹਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]593}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Let’s read the following and find the meaning of “bani nirankar hai”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Before talking about Bani, 3rd Nanak praises the Almighty first, the people who praise Him. In the following, then he praises bani which is a pure praise of Almighty and and says bani itself is Him because it is all about Him. Stress is on bani because its’ central idea, that is Almighty. If any bani is there but is not written in His praise, it is called false one. In bani there is not a single stanza where Almighty is not praised. Meaning goes on “No one is equal to Almighty” So Guru continues: Praise Him, it happens what he wishes. Praise His Name, people in tuned to Guru taste this ambrosial nectar (what nectar? Bani that leads to Him). Praise Him who is realized with His grace. Satgur says that the persons in tuned to Guru continuously enjoy Naam and are praise worthy.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਹੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਅਗਮ ਅਥਾਹੁ ਹੈ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਸਚਾ ਸੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਵੇਪਰਵਾਹੁ ਹੈ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਹੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਮੀ ਪਾਈਐ ਆਪਿ ਦਇਆ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਏਇ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman] {[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਪੰਨਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Times New Roman]515}[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]So by taking out just one sentence and doing an advocacy that goes against the Gurmat is best example of ignorance. Please do not disrespect Satguru Nanak who declares that the Almighty is beyond birth and death. That is a basic principle of Sikhism, period.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]We Sikhs do not have competition with others. We are taught by our Guru Sahiban that the best religion on this earth is do HIS praise and [B]seriously to fall in love with Him.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]We are well guided to co exist and what we should do is clear[/B]; Following Guru waak says it all[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Raavi]ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi][FONT=Times New Roman] (GGS ji 266)[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Of all religions, the best is to praise the Name of Almighty and maintain pure conduct this way.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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