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Gurbani (14-53)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
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Kaafee (365-409)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
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Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
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Vaar Soohee (785-792)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
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ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
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Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
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Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 86828" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> Here is few ridiculous statements float around on singhvj.com</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">On Islam</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: brown"><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Oppose - It is unjust of Allah to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Q'uran of its 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Compassionate and Merciful God. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">On Sikhism</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Did this God forget to reveal this message in the beginning so that all in His Creation could have benefited from it? It is difficult to believe that the God of Truth hid this truth from millions of souls before Nanak. To restrict revelation to Nanak's time is highly erroneous. <a href="http://www.singhvj.com/" target="_blank">www.singhvj.com</a></span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Now this is an example of ignorance of this guy who foolishly questions two religions about their revelations. Gurbani states that many people before Sikhism, merge with the Lord by following Guru, where does it say that first time Lord has revealed His message to Guru Nanak only? Why this lie is being promoted? It is a sheer display of a shallow knowledge of other religions and a false claim to be the first one to know Him. Isn’t necessary to first know HIM before questioning others? In concept of incarnation of God, Daya Nand answers in a way which goes totally against the conviction of His Hindu brethren</span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">“21. Does God incarnate or not? </span></span> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">A.- No; because it is said in the Yajur Veda. "He is unborn." Again "He overspreads all." He is pure, is never born and never takes on a human form." It is clear from these quotations that God is never born.</span></p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Q. <em>But </em></span><em><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Krishna</span></em><em><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> says in the Gita, "Whenever there is decay of virtue, I take on a human form." GITA 4: 7. What is your answer to this?</span></em></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">“Being opposed to the Veda, it cannot be held to be an authority. Though it is possible that Krishna, being very virtuous and being extremely anxious to further the cause of righteousness, might have wished that he would like to be born again and again at different times to protect the good and punish the wicked. if such was the case, there is no harm in it; because 'whatever the good and the great possess - their wealth, their bodies, aye eve their hearts - is at the service of humanity? In spite of all this </span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Krishna</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> could never be God. “</span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Why it is so? Since in Vedas, He is” unborn” Lord Krishna’s claim is reduced to be a wish. Go and ask mainstream Hindus if it is acceptable? It doesn’t matter if it is said; purpose is different, if contradictory things come in Hinduism, it is better to cover it up. Since I do not believe in either Vedas or Bhagwat Geeta, I have no concern, but my point is how hardliners stoop low to attack all other religions simply because Vedas were revealed first. They think ( I feel the lost worlds had also revelations) therefore Hinduism is superior. Hindus are believers of Devtas, godds goddesses, Vedas, Puranas, Bhagwat </span> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Geeta; Upnishdas, simirities etc, there is no way now to slice off a few from them and come up with one notion that Hindus are followers of Veda only. Gurbani addresses also negative teachings of Vedas that also separates Sikhism from this claim” Sikhism is Hinduism”</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਚਹਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਸਤਕ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਦ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਰਾਨਾਂ</span></a></span></strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">v</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">āc</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖeh pusṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ak vė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> purānā</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.</span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Some read scriptures, the Vedas and the Puraanas.</span></span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਕ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਹਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਨਹਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਨਾਵਹਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾਨਾਂ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">Ik bahi suneh sunāveh kānā</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.</span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Some sit and listen, and read to others.</span></span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਜਗਰ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਪਟੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹਹੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਉ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖੁਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਨੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਤਿਗੁਰ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਤੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਆ</span></a></span></strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Ajgar kapat kahhu kio kẖul</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ĥ</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ai bin saṯgur ṯaṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> na pāiā. ||11||</span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Tell me, how can the heavy, rigid doors be opened? Without the True Guru, the essence of reality is not realized. ||11|| ( SGGS 1043)</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <strong>Gurbani here directs the followers not to pay heed what Vedas says at all but to Guru Shabad</strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Induism<strong> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਲੋਕ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਃ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></a></strong></span><strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਥਾ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਹਾਣੀ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80%EF%80%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਦੀ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਣੀ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਪੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁੰਨੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੀਚਾਰੁ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੈਣਾ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੈ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੈ</span></a><a 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href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਿਆਨ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਨ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਚਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਈ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ</span></a><a 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target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਈ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੁਕਮੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਜਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੁਕਮੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਚਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਖੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੁਕਮੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਦਰਿ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖੈ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਗਹੁ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਉਮੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੁਟੈ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਾਂ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਖੀਐ</span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੇਖੈ</span></a></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">Salok mehlā 2.</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">Kathā kahā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī bė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> ā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī pāp punn bīc</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ār.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ė </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ė lai</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ā lai lai </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ā narak surag av</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ār.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Uṯam maḏẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">im jā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> jinsī b</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖaram bẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">avai sansār.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Amriṯ baṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯaṯ vakẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī giān </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">iān vic</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> āī.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Gurmukẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> āk</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī gurmuk</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> jā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī sur</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ī</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> karam ḏẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">iāī.</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">Hukam sāj hukmai vic</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ rakẖai hukmai anḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ar vėk</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖai.</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">Nānak agahu haumai </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯutai ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ā</span><span style="font-family: 'LucidaGrande'">ʼn</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> ko likīai lėk</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖai. ||1||</span></p><p> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Slok 2nd Guru.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Vedas have brought legends and tales and they expound vice and virtue.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">What men give as gratis they receive and what they receive as gratis they give. According to their deeds, they are born in hell or heaven.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Reading them the world wanders in the doubt of high and low castes and classes.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The ambrosial Gurbani speaks of the Real Thing and has been revealed unto the Guru in the state of Divine Knowledge and meditation.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">The Guru-wards utter it, the Guru-wards realise it and by God's grace, the divines ponder over it,</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Creating the world in His will, the Lord keeps it in His will and in His will He </span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">beholds it.</span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">If before he dies, man's ego is stilled, O Nanak, then becomes he acceptable in God's court.</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><strong>To be continued</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 86828, member: 5889"] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] Here is few ridiculous statements float around on singhvj.com[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]On Islam[/FONT][/B] [COLOR=brown][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Oppose - It is unjust of Allah to deprive millions born before the revelation of the Q'uran of its 'divine wisdom'. An injustice which cannot be the work of a Compassionate and Merciful God. [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]On Sikhism[/FONT][/B] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Did this God forget to reveal this message in the beginning so that all in His Creation could have benefited from it? It is difficult to believe that the God of Truth hid this truth from millions of souls before Nanak. To restrict revelation to Nanak's time is highly erroneous. [URL="http://www.singhvj.com/"]www.singhvj.com[/URL][/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Now this is an example of ignorance of this guy who foolishly questions two religions about their revelations. Gurbani states that many people before Sikhism, merge with the Lord by following Guru, where does it say that first time Lord has revealed His message to Guru Nanak only? Why this lie is being promoted? It is a sheer display of a shallow knowledge of other religions and a false claim to be the first one to know Him. Isn’t necessary to first know HIM before questioning others? In concept of incarnation of God, Daya Nand answers in a way which goes totally against the conviction of His Hindu brethren[/FONT][/B] [CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=green][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]“21. Does God incarnate or not? [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]A.- No; because it is said in the Yajur Veda. "He is unborn." Again "He overspreads all." He is pure, is never born and never takes on a human form." It is clear from these quotations that God is never born.[/FONT][/CENTER] [/CENTER] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Q. [I]But [/I][/FONT][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Krishna[/FONT][/I][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] says in the Gita, "Whenever there is decay of virtue, I take on a human form." GITA 4: 7. What is your answer to this?[/FONT][/I] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]“Being opposed to the Veda, it cannot be held to be an authority. Though it is possible that Krishna, being very virtuous and being extremely anxious to further the cause of righteousness, might have wished that he would like to be born again and again at different times to protect the good and punish the wicked. if such was the case, there is no harm in it; because 'whatever the good and the great possess - their wealth, their bodies, aye eve their hearts - is at the service of humanity? In spite of all this [/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Krishna[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] could never be God. “[/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Why it is so? Since in Vedas, He is” unborn” Lord Krishna’s claim is reduced to be a wish. Go and ask mainstream Hindus if it is acceptable? It doesn’t matter if it is said; purpose is different, if contradictory things come in Hinduism, it is better to cover it up. Since I do not believe in either Vedas or Bhagwat Geeta, I have no concern, but my point is how hardliners stoop low to attack all other religions simply because Vedas were revealed first. They think ( I feel the lost worlds had also revelations) therefore Hinduism is superior. Hindus are believers of Devtas, godds goddesses, Vedas, Puranas, Bhagwat [/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Geeta; Upnishdas, simirities etc, there is no way now to slice off a few from them and come up with one notion that Hindus are followers of Veda only. Gurbani addresses also negative teachings of Vedas that also separates Sikhism from this claim” Sikhism is Hinduism”[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਚਹਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਸਤਕ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਦ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਰਾਨਾਂ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]v[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]āc[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖeh pusṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ak vė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] purānā[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma].[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Some read scriptures, the Vedas and the Puraanas.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਕ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਹਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਨਹਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਨਾਵਹਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾਨਾਂ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][/B][FONT=Helvetica]Ik bahi suneh sunāveh kānā[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma].[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Some sit and listen, and read to others.[/FONT][/COLOR] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਜਗਰ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਪਟੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਹਹੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਉ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਖੁਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਨੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਤਿਗੁਰ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਤੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਇਆ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Ajgar kapat kahhu kio kẖul[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ĥ[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ai bin saṯgur ṯaṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] na pāiā. ||11||[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Tell me, how can the heavy, rigid doors be opened? Without the True Guru, the essence of reality is not realized. ||11|| ( SGGS 1043)[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [B]Gurbani here directs the followers not to pay heed what Vedas says at all but to Guru Shabad[/B][/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Induism[B] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਲੋਕ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%83"][FONT=Raavi]ਮ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਃ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A8"][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/URL][/B][/FONT][B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਥਾ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਹਾਣੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%80%EF%80%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਦੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਣੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਪੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁੰਨੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੀਚਾਰੁ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਲੈਣਾ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਲੈ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਲੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਣਾ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਰਕਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਰਗਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਵਤਾਰ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਤਮ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਧਿਮ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%82"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਤੀਂ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨਸੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਰਮਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਵੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਸਾਰੁ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਾਣੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਤਤੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਖਾਣੀ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਿਆਨ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਿਆਨ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਚਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਈ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] 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[URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੁਕਮੁ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਜਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੁਕਮੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਚਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਰਖੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੁਕਮੈ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਦਰਿ[/FONT][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਖੈ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] 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[FONT=Helvetica]Salok mehlā 2.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]Kathā kahā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī bė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] ā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī pāp punn bīc[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ār.[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ė [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ė lai[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ā lai lai [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ā narak surag av[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ār.[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Uṯam maḏẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]im jā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] jinsī b[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖaram bẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]avai sansār.[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Amriṯ baṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯaṯ vakẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī giān [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]iān vic[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] āī.[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Gurmukẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] āk[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī gurmuk[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] jā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī sur[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ī[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma] karam ḏẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]iāī.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]Hukam sāj hukmai vic[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ rakẖai hukmai anḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ar vėk[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖai.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]Nānak agahu haumai [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯutai ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ā[/FONT][FONT=LucidaGrande]ʼn[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] ko likīai lėk[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖai. ||1||[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Slok 2nd Guru.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Vedas have brought legends and tales and they expound vice and virtue.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]What men give as gratis they receive and what they receive as gratis they give. According to their deeds, they are born in hell or heaven.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Reading them the world wanders in the doubt of high and low castes and classes.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The ambrosial Gurbani speaks of the Real Thing and has been revealed unto the Guru in the state of Divine Knowledge and meditation.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]The Guru-wards utter it, the Guru-wards realise it and by God's grace, the divines ponder over it,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]Creating the world in His will, the Lord keeps it in His will and in His will He [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]beholds it.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]If before he dies, man's ego is stilled, O Nanak, then becomes he acceptable in God's court.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] [B]To be continued[/B] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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