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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 86825" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">Next</span></strong></p><p> <span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">The Lord of the universe in whom the whole world exists, ( rig Veda 10 126. *</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">Obviously whole world exists in Him, Sikhism expresses the Lord as permeating force, the matter He created perishes; His force goes out of it and but it remains imperishable. Right in this context, Sikhism promotes equality of all regardless the gender or birth {In other scriptures they boast to be the first one” there are “shudras”(low class) and woman is compared to a “shoe” to be changed at convenient} <u>If whole world exists in Him, in what name discrimination is done.</u> The most disgusting and human disgracing behavior comes from the knowledgeable of Vedas just as whites abused blacks in slave trade. What is the missing link here? On what basis people are boasting about their old wisdom when characteristics of humanity were crushed long time ago leaving it incompetent to date. .Religion is not matter of bookish knowledge, if it is not practiced; it remains a locked magic box unable to serve the society for good cause.</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">The Rest</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">If these scriptures talk about the Infinte Lord, Guru Ji verifies it and states that the readers of Vedas actually ignored it. Here is verification of that fact along with that statement about the Vedas of being ignored by their own readers.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">Verification</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੂਰਨ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਰਖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਚੁਤ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਸੁ</span><span style="color: #ab5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਦ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਰਾਣੀ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਾਇਆ</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">Pūran purak</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> ac</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">u</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> ab</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ināsī jas vė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'"> purā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ī gāiā.</span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">The Vedas and the Puraanas sing the Praises of the Perfect, Unchanging, and Imperishable Primal Lord.( Mehl 5 </span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">STATEMENT ABOUT VEDAS BEING IGNORED BY THEIR READERS</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #ab5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਦ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਾ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਮੁ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਤਮੁ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਣਹਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਹੀ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਿਰਹਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਉ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਤਾਲਿਆ</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">vė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ā meh nām u</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">am so su</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">eh nāhī fireh jio bė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">āliā.</span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">In the Vedas, the ultimate objective is the Naam, the Name of the Lord; but they do not hear this, and they wander around like demons.</span></strong> <span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮ</span></span><strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਃ</span></span></strong><span style="color: green"><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">3</span></span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> (SGGS 919)</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> So, yes, Gurbani admits that the Truth was explained in Vedas and it doesn’t address them as empty of the Lord but unfortunately Vedas’ followers didn’t follow the Truth, instead mislead the people about that Truth (even after the Sikhs Gurus and even now same game goes on). Gurbani advises followers to regard actually all religious scriptures as of His creation because all is His play; however, it stresses to believe only in Guru not others, that thing only detours it from the importance of Vedas and other scriptures in concept of a Sikh learning. Forcibly attaching Sikhism to Vedanta or Santana etc sectarian ideology is nothing but ignorance in context of Guru Message. If it were true, Gurus would have repeatedly instructed followers to learn Sanskrit and learn more from Vedas. All the references are used to address the importance of the Lord who created all </span> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">the shows of the past and the present (to be continued). Look at the following, all religious scriptures are referred as His own play.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੁਦਰਤਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਦ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੁਰਾਣ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਤੇਬਾ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੁਦਰਤਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AC" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਰਬ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੀਚਾਰੁ</span></span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Kuḏraṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> vė</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> purā</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ kaṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ėbā ku</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏraṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"> sarab vīc</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">ār.</span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">By His Power the Vedas and the Puraanas exist, and the Holy Scriptures of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic religions. By His Power all deliberations exist.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> Here is an instruction to follow only the Guru, Sikhs Guru is Guru Shabad.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਬਦਿ</span><span style="color: #ab5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਣਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਨਿਆ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਨ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਇਆ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span></strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Jin saba</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'"> gurū su</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'"> maniā </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯ</span><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">in man </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">iāiā har soė.</span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Those who hear and believe in the Word of the Guru's Shabad, meditate on the Lord in their minds. (SGGS 27)</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">About the fake self declared Guru, there is warning in Gurubani</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #ab5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਨਾ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਧੁਲਾ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚੇਲੇ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਹੀ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਠਾਉ</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">Gurū jinā kā an</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ulā c</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ėlė nāhī </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ṯẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">āo<strong>.</strong></span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Those disciples whose spiritual teacher is blind, shall not find their place of rest.(SGGS 58)</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">So True Guru shows HIM, and Guru Shabad is about nothing but HIM</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਊਚ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਪਾਰ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਗੋਚਰ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਥਾਨਾ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਓਹੁ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਲੁ</span><span style="color: #ab5555"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਖਾਈ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੀਉ</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">Ūc</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'"> apār agoc</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ar thānā oh mahal gurū </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ḏ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">ėk</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ẖ</span><span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">āī jīo. ||3||</span> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">His Place is lofty, infinite and unfathomable; the Guru has shown me that palace. ||3|| ( SGGS 101)</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">If one fails to see HIM, obviously Guru is not followed properly; practicing academic muscles exercises is nothing literally in the field of Spirituality.</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">This also includes that Gurbani inspires followers to meditate on none but HIM.</span> <span style="font-family: 'Times-Roman'">So the claim of hardliner Hindus that God revealed them truth first than any one else, proves that even after learning that truth, still they are a cause of tearing apart Indian society which should have been an example for the world to follow. That moment was never allowed to happen till Guru Nanak showed up on this world stag ( not at that level Guru Nanak did). That revealed truth first time to them, as they boast about, has done nothing to change their behavior over centuries. Humanity has been tortured bit by bit for centuries due to their selfishness. Let’s take one example of the biggest advocate of Vedas, Daya Nand, he writes in His book, Satyarth parkash, under instruction to mother to raise children</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">“Jealousy and malice they should not harbor” Daya Nand</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">Sounds very inspiring, doesn’t it?, now read comments of this guy on Muslims</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">From Masooda, the Swami went to </span><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">Raipur</span><span style="font-family: 'ArialMT'">, where he stayed for three weeks, giving <em>updesh</em> from time to time. On learning from the Thakur (Hari Singh) himself that his Vazier was a Muhammadan, the Swami observed, in presence of several Muslim gentlemen (one of these being the younger brother of the absent Vazier and acting for him), the Muhammadans should not be entrusted with the management of the State, as they came from the womb of a <em>dasi</em> (slave-girl).</span></p><p> <strong><em><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">Swami Dayanand</span></em></strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"> ~ “Look into your Sacred Quran. Isral, also called Abrahim, had two wives, - one of them, the wedded one, called Sarah, and the other, a slave-girl, went by the name of Hajra. The Europeans are from the womb of Sarah, and you from that of Hajra. How can, then, there be any doubts as to your being <em>dasiputra</em>?”( site singhvj.com) His words on Guru Nanak I am avoiding to post as they display a lack of open-mindedness and spirituality.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'">What does it prove? Preach good stuff and live as mind guides and never learn from wisdom of the religion. This robe of hypocrisy is only what they have been wearing for centuries.</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"><span style="color: SeaGreen">To be continued</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'"></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 86825, member: 5889"] [B][FONT=Times-Roman]Next[/FONT][/B] [COLOR=green][FONT=ArialMT]The Lord of the universe in whom the whole world exists, ( rig Veda 10 126. *[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=ArialMT]Obviously whole world exists in Him, Sikhism expresses the Lord as permeating force, the matter He created perishes; His force goes out of it and but it remains imperishable. Right in this context, Sikhism promotes equality of all regardless the gender or birth {In other scriptures they boast to be the first one” there are “shudras”(low class) and woman is compared to a “shoe” to be changed at convenient} [U]If whole world exists in Him, in what name discrimination is done.[/U] The most disgusting and human disgracing behavior comes from the knowledgeable of Vedas just as whites abused blacks in slave trade. What is the missing link here? On what basis people are boasting about their old wisdom when characteristics of humanity were crushed long time ago leaving it incompetent to date. .Religion is not matter of bookish knowledge, if it is not practiced; it remains a locked magic box unable to serve the society for good cause.[/FONT] [B][FONT=ArialMT]The Rest[/FONT][/B] [FONT=ArialMT]If these scriptures talk about the Infinte Lord, Guru Ji verifies it and states that the readers of Vedas actually ignored it. Here is verification of that fact along with that statement about the Vedas of being ignored by their own readers.[/FONT] [B][FONT=ArialMT]Verification[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Raavi]ਪੂਰਨ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਰਖ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅਚੁਤ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਸੁ[/FONT][COLOR=#ab5555][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਦ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਰਾਣੀ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਗਾਇਆ[/FONT][/B][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]Pūran purak[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] ac[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]u[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] ab[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ināsī jas vė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman] purā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ī gāiā.[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]The Vedas and the Puraanas sing the Praises of the Perfect, Unchanging, and Imperishable Primal Lord.( Mehl 5 [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Times-Roman]STATEMENT ABOUT VEDAS BEING IGNORED BY THEIR READERS[/FONT][/B] [B][COLOR=#ab5555][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਦ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]ਾ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਮੁ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਉਤਮੁ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਣਹਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਹੀ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਫਿਰਹਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਉ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਤਾਲਿਆ[/FONT][/B][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]vė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ā meh nām u[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]am so su[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]eh nāhī fireh jio bė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]āliā.[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]In the Vedas, the ultimate objective is the Naam, the Name of the Lord; but they do not hear this, and they wander around like demons.[/FONT][/B] [COLOR=green][FONT=Raavi]ਮ[/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=green][FONT=Raavi]ਃ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=green][FONT=Times-Roman]3[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] (SGGS 919)[/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] So, yes, Gurbani admits that the Truth was explained in Vedas and it doesn’t address them as empty of the Lord but unfortunately Vedas’ followers didn’t follow the Truth, instead mislead the people about that Truth (even after the Sikhs Gurus and even now same game goes on). Gurbani advises followers to regard actually all religious scriptures as of His creation because all is His play; however, it stresses to believe only in Guru not others, that thing only detours it from the importance of Vedas and other scriptures in concept of a Sikh learning. Forcibly attaching Sikhism to Vedanta or Santana etc sectarian ideology is nothing but ignorance in context of Guru Message. If it were true, Gurus would have repeatedly instructed followers to learn Sanskrit and learn more from Vedas. All the references are used to address the importance of the Lord who created all [/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]the shows of the past and the present (to be continued). Look at the following, all religious scriptures are referred as His own play.[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਕੁਦਰਤਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਵੇਦ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਪੁਰਾਣ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BE"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਕਤੇਬਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਕੁਦਰਤਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AC"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਸਰਬ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Raavi]ਵੀਚਾਰੁ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/B][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Kuḏraṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] vė[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] purā[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ kaṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ėbā ku[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏraṯ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica] sarab vīc[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica]ār.[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]By His Power the Vedas and the Puraanas exist, and the Holy Scriptures of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic religions. By His Power all deliberations exist.[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] Here is an instruction to follow only the Guru, Sikhs Guru is Guru Shabad.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਬਦਿ[/FONT][COLOR=#ab5555][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਣਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮੰਨਿਆ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਨ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਧਿਆਇਆ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਇ[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][/B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Jin saba[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman] gurū su[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṇ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman] maniā [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯ[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]in man [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]iāiā har soė.[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Those who hear and believe in the Word of the Guru's Shabad, meditate on the Lord in their minds. (SGGS 27)[/FONT][/B] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]About the fake self declared Guru, there is warning in Gurubani[/FONT] [B][COLOR=#ab5555][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਨਾ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਧੁਲਾ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਚੇਲੇ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਹੀ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਠਾਉ[/FONT][/B][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]Gurū jinā kā an[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ulā c[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ėlė nāhī [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ṯẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]āo[B].[/B][/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Those disciples whose spiritual teacher is blind, shall not find their place of rest.(SGGS 58)[/FONT][/B] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]So True Guru shows HIM, and Guru Shabad is about nothing but HIM[/FONT] [B][FONT=Raavi]ਊਚ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅਪਾਰ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅਗੋਚਰ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਥਾਨਾ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਓਹੁ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਲੁ[/FONT][COLOR=#ab5555][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਖਾਈ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜੀਉ[/FONT][/B][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Mangal] [/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]Ūc[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman] apār agoc[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ar thānā oh mahal gurū [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ḏ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]ėk[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]ẖ[/FONT][FONT=Times-Roman]āī jīo. ||3||[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]His Place is lofty, infinite and unfathomable; the Guru has shown me that palace. ||3|| ( SGGS 101)[/FONT][/B] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]If one fails to see HIM, obviously Guru is not followed properly; practicing academic muscles exercises is nothing literally in the field of Spirituality.[/FONT] [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]This also includes that Gurbani inspires followers to meditate on none but HIM.[/FONT] [FONT=Times-Roman]So the claim of hardliner Hindus that God revealed them truth first than any one else, proves that even after learning that truth, still they are a cause of tearing apart Indian society which should have been an example for the world to follow. That moment was never allowed to happen till Guru Nanak showed up on this world stag ( not at that level Guru Nanak did). That revealed truth first time to them, as they boast about, has done nothing to change their behavior over centuries. Humanity has been tortured bit by bit for centuries due to their selfishness. Let’s take one example of the biggest advocate of Vedas, Daya Nand, he writes in His book, Satyarth parkash, under instruction to mother to raise children[/FONT] [FONT=ArialMT]“Jealousy and malice they should not harbor” Daya Nand[/FONT] [B][FONT=ArialMT]Sounds very inspiring, doesn’t it?, now read comments of this guy on Muslims[/FONT][/B] [FONT=ArialMT]From Masooda, the Swami went to [/FONT][FONT=ArialMT]Raipur[/FONT][FONT=ArialMT], where he stayed for three weeks, giving [I]updesh[/I] from time to time. On learning from the Thakur (Hari Singh) himself that his Vazier was a Muhammadan, the Swami observed, in presence of several Muslim gentlemen (one of these being the younger brother of the absent Vazier and acting for him), the Muhammadans should not be entrusted with the management of the State, as they came from the womb of a [I]dasi[/I] (slave-girl).[/FONT] [B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]Swami Dayanand[/FONT][/I][/B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT] ~ “Look into your Sacred Quran. Isral, also called Abrahim, had two wives, - one of them, the wedded one, called Sarah, and the other, a slave-girl, went by the name of Hajra. The Europeans are from the womb of Sarah, and you from that of Hajra. How can, then, there be any doubts as to your being [I]dasiputra[/I]?”( site singhvj.com) His words on Guru Nanak I am avoiding to post as they display a lack of open-mindedness and spirituality.[/FONT] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT]What does it prove? Preach good stuff and live as mind guides and never learn from wisdom of the religion. This robe of hypocrisy is only what they have been wearing for centuries.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][COLOR=SeaGreen]To be continued[/COLOR] [/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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