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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="basha" data-source="post: 5799" data-attributes="member: 779"><p><strong>Re: Some info about Shias for Caramel Sugar</strong></p><p></p><p>I think Das needs to read up about Shiism since the topic at hand is very simple and easy to understand, that of "waseelat" and whether we can use intercessors when asking god for help and that of "Ahlul Bayt" and whether thier interpretation of the Prophets actions and the Quran are equally as important as the Quran itself. In both cases, Shias believe it to be true, but before you raise a judgement qualify yourself to make this judgement. Read just a little about these two topics. Al-Islam.org or ShiaChat.com are two excellent resources. Before you start your research though, I want to make clear to you that shias and sunnis follow ONE islam, not two different versions. The differences are very minor and only known to the knowledgable sunni/shia followers, everything else that you might have heard are only rumors and exaggerations.</p><p> </p><p> On a side note, showing faces or portraits of Imams is forbidden in Islam. And thus forbidden in Shiism. Although its strictly forbidden in Islam the reason those very few shias still hold up those portraits is because shiism has not and can not put any limit to showing your love for the ahlul bayt. So those few shias, due to this clause in shiism, dont see that their transgressions in the name of love for ahlul bayt are actually going against Islam itself, but rather say that they have left it up to God to decide whether it was a transgression or not. I dont agree with this since there is NO justification for going against Islam. I myself feel very shameful of being a shia when I see this on the television. Also, another side note, shias dont pray to graves or shrines of imams, they pay their respects to them, a wahabi would interpret these actions differently due to his bias and without asking those shias about their intentions he will automatically assume that they are praying to those shrines or graves. And please, dont ever put wahabiism in a good light in front of me. </p><p> </p><p> Also, It is well-known that sunni's arent wahabi. It is a grand mistake made by many, even shia's, of grouping wahabi's with sunnis. Sunni clerics have been killed, along with shia clerics, by wahabis for choosing moderation over extremism, and choosing knowledge over jihad. The wahabis dont take the Prophet Mohammad's PBUH sunna (his actions and interpretation of the Quran) in consideration when following the Quran and thus are left to their OWN interpretations which are not necessarily the RIGHT interpretations. Ive written about this topic in my previous posts, so just search for them. Thank you and forgive me if I've come across as anything less than humble. Again, the websites are al-islam.org and shiachat.com. Take care.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="basha, post: 5799, member: 779"] [b]Re: Some info about Shias for Caramel Sugar[/b] I think Das needs to read up about Shiism since the topic at hand is very simple and easy to understand, that of "waseelat" and whether we can use intercessors when asking god for help and that of "Ahlul Bayt" and whether thier interpretation of the Prophets actions and the Quran are equally as important as the Quran itself. In both cases, Shias believe it to be true, but before you raise a judgement qualify yourself to make this judgement. Read just a little about these two topics. Al-Islam.org or ShiaChat.com are two excellent resources. Before you start your research though, I want to make clear to you that shias and sunnis follow ONE islam, not two different versions. The differences are very minor and only known to the knowledgable sunni/shia followers, everything else that you might have heard are only rumors and exaggerations. On a side note, showing faces or portraits of Imams is forbidden in Islam. And thus forbidden in Shiism. Although its strictly forbidden in Islam the reason those very few shias still hold up those portraits is because shiism has not and can not put any limit to showing your love for the ahlul bayt. So those few shias, due to this clause in shiism, dont see that their transgressions in the name of love for ahlul bayt are actually going against Islam itself, but rather say that they have left it up to God to decide whether it was a transgression or not. I dont agree with this since there is NO justification for going against Islam. I myself feel very shameful of being a shia when I see this on the television. Also, another side note, shias dont pray to graves or shrines of imams, they pay their respects to them, a wahabi would interpret these actions differently due to his bias and without asking those shias about their intentions he will automatically assume that they are praying to those shrines or graves. And please, dont ever put wahabiism in a good light in front of me. Also, It is well-known that sunni's arent wahabi. It is a grand mistake made by many, even shia's, of grouping wahabi's with sunnis. Sunni clerics have been killed, along with shia clerics, by wahabis for choosing moderation over extremism, and choosing knowledge over jihad. The wahabis dont take the Prophet Mohammad's PBUH sunna (his actions and interpretation of the Quran) in consideration when following the Quran and thus are left to their OWN interpretations which are not necessarily the RIGHT interpretations. Ive written about this topic in my previous posts, so just search for them. Thank you and forgive me if I've come across as anything less than humble. Again, the websites are al-islam.org and shiachat.com. Take care. [/QUOTE]
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