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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
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Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
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Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member4" data-source="post: 92699" data-attributes="member: 6184"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">This quote holds no logic or truth to it in this context. The partition of </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">India</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> was not successful. Over a million people were killed because of it. Does this sound like success to you. A man of honor always looks in the best interest of all people, just not his own. Like i said before a man in a suit seems like a hero. Jinnah called for </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Pakistan</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> and </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Hindustan</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">. Where is the Sikhs in MD Jinnah’s honorable and successful plan. When told </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Punjab,</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> including </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Lahore</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> would go to the Sikhs Jinnah refused it. Is this the man you hold in high regards. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Sant Jarnail ji did not choose anything. The Indian government had many chances to take down Sant Jarnail ji if they wanted too outside of Harmandar Sahib. Look at the date Gandhi picked. The Martyrdom of Guru Arjun Dev ji was on </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">May 30, 1606</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">. And the birth of Guru Hargobind Sahib jis, </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">June 14, 1595</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">. At this time many Sikhs come to Harmandar Sahib and this is the time Gandhi chose to get Sant Jarnail Singh ji. To get one man they need an army of tanks and a complete city lockdown? They arrested him on the accounts of being behind the killing of the Nirankari leader and a Hindu news reporter and now they need an army to take him out. Plus he was in jail for a month without being charged. They had the man in custody, but let him go! Which presents another point, on what accounts were they going after Sant Jarnail ji. Also why were all the reporters put on a bus and taken out of the city? Surely not for protection they were willing to stay and only had to fear the Indian army. Also after the attack why wasn’t anyone allowed in, did the government have to cover something up. Maybe it was the many many many people they killed and then understating the number. Or could it have been the cold blooded attack of point blank range of killing innocent Sikhs. Things don’t add up Saint ji. Also all the cases that are against the government, but none of them are being processed. If the government of Indira Gandhi was trutful these cases would be dismissed in a flash.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Really Nehru cared about the Sikhs, well then if he cared about the Sikhs then he had this to say about their homeland in 1931. In 1931 on the accommodation of Sikhs in the upcoming independence, Jawahar Lal Nehru said" I wish I could blow away Punjab from India's map"(in a way he did more than half of it)("Perils of a communal Situation' - editorial in Tribune, July 12,1931).</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Two years before 1931, Nehru had made this promise to the Sikhs.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">"The Congress assures the Sikhs that no solution in any future Constitution will be acceptable to the Congress that does not give them full satisfaction."</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(Indian Constitution Documens, Vol. ii, by A.C. Banarjee)</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Was this promise kept. NO I would love to see where you are getting your facts from Saint ji because they are so far from the truth.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Right after the partition of India the relationship of Sikhs and the Indian government was breaking apart because of the lies told by the congress, which Nehru was very much apart of. Also for your own info look up if Indira Gandhi was the daughter of Nehru; really interesting stuff. Its irrelevant, but shows who is pruned to telling lies. And let’s remind everyone of the corrupt government Indira Gandhi was running; it surely says she is trustable.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">What did Sant Jarnail Singh ji do that you accuse of him doing????? You present a conclusion before even given facts about Sant ji.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member4, post: 92699, member: 6184"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]This quote holds no logic or truth to it in this context. The partition of [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]India[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] was not successful. Over a million people were killed because of it. Does this sound like success to you. A man of honor always looks in the best interest of all people, just not his own. Like i said before a man in a suit seems like a hero. Jinnah called for [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Pakistan[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] and [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Hindustan[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]. Where is the Sikhs in MD Jinnah’s honorable and successful plan. When told [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Punjab,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] including [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Lahore[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] would go to the Sikhs Jinnah refused it. Is this the man you hold in high regards. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]Sant Jarnail ji did not choose anything. The Indian government had many chances to take down Sant Jarnail ji if they wanted too outside of Harmandar Sahib. Look at the date Gandhi picked. The Martyrdom of Guru Arjun Dev ji was on [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]May 30, 1606[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]. And the birth of Guru Hargobind Sahib jis, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]June 14, 1595[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma]. At this time many Sikhs come to Harmandar Sahib and this is the time Gandhi chose to get Sant Jarnail Singh ji. To get one man they need an army of tanks and a complete city lockdown? They arrested him on the accounts of being behind the killing of the Nirankari leader and a Hindu news reporter and now they need an army to take him out. Plus he was in jail for a month without being charged. They had the man in custody, but let him go! Which presents another point, on what accounts were they going after Sant Jarnail ji. Also why were all the reporters put on a bus and taken out of the city? Surely not for protection they were willing to stay and only had to fear the Indian army. Also after the attack why wasn’t anyone allowed in, did the government have to cover something up. Maybe it was the many many many people they killed and then understating the number. Or could it have been the cold blooded attack of point blank range of killing innocent Sikhs. Things don’t add up Saint ji. Also all the cases that are against the government, but none of them are being processed. If the government of Indira Gandhi was trutful these cases would be dismissed in a flash.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Tahoma] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Really Nehru cared about the Sikhs, well then if he cared about the Sikhs then he had this to say about their homeland in 1931. In 1931 on the accommodation of Sikhs in the upcoming independence, Jawahar Lal Nehru said" I wish I could blow away Punjab from India's map"(in a way he did more than half of it)("Perils of a communal Situation' - editorial in Tribune, July 12,1931).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Two years before 1931, Nehru had made this promise to the Sikhs.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]"The Congress assures the Sikhs that no solution in any future Constitution will be acceptable to the Congress that does not give them full satisfaction." (Indian Constitution Documens, Vol. ii, by A.C. Banarjee)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Was this promise kept. NO I would love to see where you are getting your facts from Saint ji because they are so far from the truth.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Right after the partition of India the relationship of Sikhs and the Indian government was breaking apart because of the lies told by the congress, which Nehru was very much apart of. Also for your own info look up if Indira Gandhi was the daughter of Nehru; really interesting stuff. Its irrelevant, but shows who is pruned to telling lies. And let’s remind everyone of the corrupt government Indira Gandhi was running; it surely says she is trustable.[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]What did Sant Jarnail Singh ji do that you accuse of him doing????? You present a conclusion before even given facts about Sant ji.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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