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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 7738" data-attributes="member: 313"><p>Gurfateh!</p><p></p><p>Das think that Kala Afghana Sahib ji are trying to prove by quotes of Guru Granth Sahib Ji that it is OK to marry and have hetroe sexuality but in the meantime when we talk of homesexuality it is related with lust.Das 's can read Gurmukhi but has difficulty to understand punjabi as he is a Bihari.</p><p></p><p>And he also talks about Ayurveda.Das is very much with heart supporting Kala Afghana Sahib but Brain has a few question.What he worte can prevent a Sikh to become Homesexual but what about oothers who are laready or want to be like that to be a Sikh.(this is his interpetation of Gurubani)</p><p></p><p>Gurbani is truth and forever.But what about this interpetaion there are a few questions:-</p><p></p><p> If homosexultiy is a lust then what about using conraceptive?</p><p></p><p>Does a person who is impotent male or female or seterlized or casterised or Third Gender they can not have family life or Sex?</p><p></p><p>Or persom after menopause?</p><p></p><p>Wait a bit and what about a person loosing potency after accident or by force?</p><p></p><p>Then he talks about Ayurveda or old hinduism oppse mastrubution or lust it is correct.Even homeopath Dr Vidyaleankar from Gurukul Kangri also said the same.</p><p></p><p>But Allopathy or Greek or Unanai diifer a lot.</p><p></p><p>Das wants that champion purest must give five refereance from Guru Granth Sahib Ji,Which state that Ayurveda is corrrect to oppse homeopathy(In Fact Ayur Veda was there before Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji were sent to World by Akal).And let him give Five refrenaces from Same holy Guru of us which state that Allopathy(Which was devoloped a bit more After the Avtar of Our eternal Guru Granth Sahib Ji) which has different opinion about homesexuality or mastrabution is wrong.</p><p></p><p>Das also belives in other Two Holy Scripturres.But Das is only using the style of Kala Afghana Sahib as he used to make fun of Mahpoorush of Damdami Taksal(DDT) and Akhand Kirtani Jatha(AKJ).</p><p></p><p>He is exploited and hated by Thakedars of SGPC as he is fearless and does not tolrate nonesense and if he is in SGPC then crrupt people will run away.</p><p>But AKJ or DDT may not be currpt.</p><p></p><p>Anyway by his stlye of imaginatve logic Das can precive that in old world when we use to live in jungle or still some animal live.As strong male use to dreive away weaker male to take control of harem or large gruop of female.So weaker males may have become homesexual.</p><p></p><p>Actualy there in link brother Babber Sher Ji have given Das finds him(Kala Afgana Sahib) talking like some from AKJ.</p><p></p><p>By the way when Indian Puranic or old political model of 400 charetors of female and 5 of male in Triya Charitar can not be of Guru as they are Brahmanincal then how can Kala Afghan Sahib Talk of old Indian Medicine which was also used by Brahmins ie Ayurveda.Problem here is that he is yet to come out of ghetto of Indian standard or Punajbi one.</p><p></p><p>Sikhism is for all cultures and using Indian Standard of Brahmnanism or Punajbi of Jattism are trying to contain it.</p><p></p><p>Das is sorry to write this but Das is not giving his personal views but here he is thinking as if he is a gay from west.Sikhs has to be with weak.Gays in west are hated by many old standard people.Das think that Sikhs can try to let them attain spritual uplift(This Does not means to make them Amrit Dhari) by let them learn Gurmat and come to Sangat.</p><p></p><p>Whith that let alone homesexulity they may try to leave hetrosexualtiy at one level as then only worship of Akal will be there and no worldly thing.</p><p></p><p>CC is child of 16 years.He is in wrong impression that Guru was homophobic,It is in fact some of our present day Sikhs who try to paint Guru like that as they themselves are like that.Guru had no phobia.All were welcome to Gurudwara to worship God and thus serve humans.CC might have got sprem production for lat 6 or 4 years.And he is enjoying the love of another human body.But sex drrive or human body both decay one day.</p><p></p><p>Only Name of God is eternal.Soul will reamin.And Soul is God.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 7738, member: 313"] Gurfateh! Das think that Kala Afghana Sahib ji are trying to prove by quotes of Guru Granth Sahib Ji that it is OK to marry and have hetroe sexuality but in the meantime when we talk of homesexuality it is related with lust.Das 's can read Gurmukhi but has difficulty to understand punjabi as he is a Bihari. And he also talks about Ayurveda.Das is very much with heart supporting Kala Afghana Sahib but Brain has a few question.What he worte can prevent a Sikh to become Homesexual but what about oothers who are laready or want to be like that to be a Sikh.(this is his interpetation of Gurubani) Gurbani is truth and forever.But what about this interpetaion there are a few questions:- If homosexultiy is a lust then what about using conraceptive? Does a person who is impotent male or female or seterlized or casterised or Third Gender they can not have family life or Sex? Or persom after menopause? Wait a bit and what about a person loosing potency after accident or by force? Then he talks about Ayurveda or old hinduism oppse mastrubution or lust it is correct.Even homeopath Dr Vidyaleankar from Gurukul Kangri also said the same. But Allopathy or Greek or Unanai diifer a lot. Das wants that champion purest must give five refereance from Guru Granth Sahib Ji,Which state that Ayurveda is corrrect to oppse homeopathy(In Fact Ayur Veda was there before Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji were sent to World by Akal).And let him give Five refrenaces from Same holy Guru of us which state that Allopathy(Which was devoloped a bit more After the Avtar of Our eternal Guru Granth Sahib Ji) which has different opinion about homesexuality or mastrabution is wrong. Das also belives in other Two Holy Scripturres.But Das is only using the style of Kala Afghana Sahib as he used to make fun of Mahpoorush of Damdami Taksal(DDT) and Akhand Kirtani Jatha(AKJ). He is exploited and hated by Thakedars of SGPC as he is fearless and does not tolrate nonesense and if he is in SGPC then crrupt people will run away. But AKJ or DDT may not be currpt. Anyway by his stlye of imaginatve logic Das can precive that in old world when we use to live in jungle or still some animal live.As strong male use to dreive away weaker male to take control of harem or large gruop of female.So weaker males may have become homesexual. Actualy there in link brother Babber Sher Ji have given Das finds him(Kala Afgana Sahib) talking like some from AKJ. By the way when Indian Puranic or old political model of 400 charetors of female and 5 of male in Triya Charitar can not be of Guru as they are Brahmanincal then how can Kala Afghan Sahib Talk of old Indian Medicine which was also used by Brahmins ie Ayurveda.Problem here is that he is yet to come out of ghetto of Indian standard or Punajbi one. Sikhism is for all cultures and using Indian Standard of Brahmnanism or Punajbi of Jattism are trying to contain it. Das is sorry to write this but Das is not giving his personal views but here he is thinking as if he is a gay from west.Sikhs has to be with weak.Gays in west are hated by many old standard people.Das think that Sikhs can try to let them attain spritual uplift(This Does not means to make them Amrit Dhari) by let them learn Gurmat and come to Sangat. Whith that let alone homesexulity they may try to leave hetrosexualtiy at one level as then only worship of Akal will be there and no worldly thing. CC is child of 16 years.He is in wrong impression that Guru was homophobic,It is in fact some of our present day Sikhs who try to paint Guru like that as they themselves are like that.Guru had no phobia.All were welcome to Gurudwara to worship God and thus serve humans.CC might have got sprem production for lat 6 or 4 years.And he is enjoying the love of another human body.But sex drrive or human body both decay one day. Only Name of God is eternal.Soul will reamin.And Soul is God. [/QUOTE]
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