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<blockquote data-quote="Rupinder.Singh" data-source="post: 105696" data-attributes="member: 8006"><p>Dear all,</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is my opinion but it may be worng too because I beleive that it takes only one extra </p><p></p><p>argument to prove a right thing wrong or the other way around.</p><p></p><p>Whenever I think about homosexuality or other issues like this. I ask myself one question before coming to a conclusion.</p><p></p><p>and the question is</p><p></p><p>"Why do I think this issue ( in this case homosexuality) is against Sikhism"</p><p></p><p>And if I be true to myself</p><p></p><p>My answer would be any or all of the following:</p><p></p><p>Fear of loosing identity (heterosexual identity)</p><p>Fear of Society ( as most of it is heterosexual)</p><p>Fear of bad comments, or image (again from the society we live in)</p><p>Fear of infiltration</p><p>Sikhism refrences to Hetrosexual marriages as it leads to reproduction.</p><p>I am not sure if sikhism delists all homosexual activities as KAAM.</p><p></p><p>And now if i ask myself what Sikhism teaches me.I would answer as follows:</p><p></p><p>A state of fearless mind, </p><p>Making right decision without influence of any external forces.</p><p>Sikhism teaches about truthfulness and universal brotherhood.</p><p>Sikhism teaches about service of humanity</p><p>Sikhism teaches to stand against caste system.</p><p>Sikhism addresses individuals not groups</p><p></p><p>But most of the time we simply overlook these things in our day to day life and indulge into </p><p>other things which are very worldly.</p><p></p><p>Being homosexual or hetrosexual are worldly activities. Moreover Kaam is not just sex, it is </p><p>indulging in sexual activities with wrong or decieving intention, with an intention of causing </p><p>mental or physical damage to the other individual.</p><p></p><p>And I beleive it will be wrong to say that homosexual is all about KAAM and hetrosexual is not.</p><p>Human mind tend to develop stereotypes very quickly about topics it does not totally know about, or does not want to understand about. And I think that KAAM is the sterotype that we have developed for homosexual people.</p><p></p><p>By doing so we are unknowingly flourishing age long problem of caste system, a system that divides people based on group dynamics, based on thier ocuupational or day to day activities.</p><p></p><p>And we simply forget that Sikhism is against Caste system or the thoughts that lead to caste system in very first instance.</p><p></p><p>Moreover every individual is born with different skin color, diffrent facial structure, different body built, different tastes, different hobbies, different skills, different requirements, diffrent thought process and diffrent intresets. And it is universal truth.</p><p></p><p>Then Why do we expect every other person to think like us, be like us or act like us who are in majority. I would say it is all group consiousness, and majority of mankind suffers from it.</p><p></p><p>Now lets talk about the LAW in a country. Someone commented that a countries laws should not be amended just to satisfy the requirements of some minor group. </p><p></p><p>I ask you one question '"are not those minor group human beings, are not they citizen of country, don't they have any rights for themselves. </p><p>If your answer is no to above, then what about the Sikh individuals asking foreign countries to amend their laws to exclude them from wearing Helmut. We all know sikhs are in minority in most of the countries outside India. what will be our stand on this issue then?</p><p></p><p>Any countries' laws are made to avoid its citizens from any type of descriminitaion based on their lawful right distinctive actions or appearances. Laws are not made on the basis of majority or minority of individuals. </p><p></p><p>Laws are there to avoid conflicts and smooth running of the public system as you might all </p><p>know.</p><p></p><p>In the end I would conclude that discussing homosexual or hetrosexual does not lead to GOD. Only things that lead to GOD are truthfulness, service of humanity, universal brotherhood and a fearless and logical thought process. And this is all sikhism teaches us in a nutshell. </p><p></p><p>So please think twice before making homosexuality an issue related to sikhism. There are lot more dirty minds who can explore these issues to raise social violence for thier personal or political benefits.</p><p></p><p>Moreover there are lot more other more important issues humanity is facing above these matters, such as issue of poverty, issue of natural disasters, issue of equal oppurtunity for females and many more. </p><p></p><p>We need our mind focussed on those things.</p><p></p><p>Bhul Chuk Maaf...</p><p></p><p>Waheguru g ka khalsa, waheguru g ki fateh.</p><p>Rupinder Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rupinder.Singh, post: 105696, member: 8006"] Dear all, This is my opinion but it may be worng too because I beleive that it takes only one extra argument to prove a right thing wrong or the other way around. Whenever I think about homosexuality or other issues like this. I ask myself one question before coming to a conclusion. and the question is "Why do I think this issue ( in this case homosexuality) is against Sikhism" And if I be true to myself My answer would be any or all of the following: Fear of loosing identity (heterosexual identity) Fear of Society ( as most of it is heterosexual) Fear of bad comments, or image (again from the society we live in) Fear of infiltration Sikhism refrences to Hetrosexual marriages as it leads to reproduction. I am not sure if sikhism delists all homosexual activities as KAAM. And now if i ask myself what Sikhism teaches me.I would answer as follows: A state of fearless mind, Making right decision without influence of any external forces. Sikhism teaches about truthfulness and universal brotherhood. Sikhism teaches about service of humanity Sikhism teaches to stand against caste system. Sikhism addresses individuals not groups But most of the time we simply overlook these things in our day to day life and indulge into other things which are very worldly. Being homosexual or hetrosexual are worldly activities. Moreover Kaam is not just sex, it is indulging in sexual activities with wrong or decieving intention, with an intention of causing mental or physical damage to the other individual. And I beleive it will be wrong to say that homosexual is all about KAAM and hetrosexual is not. Human mind tend to develop stereotypes very quickly about topics it does not totally know about, or does not want to understand about. And I think that KAAM is the sterotype that we have developed for homosexual people. By doing so we are unknowingly flourishing age long problem of caste system, a system that divides people based on group dynamics, based on thier ocuupational or day to day activities. And we simply forget that Sikhism is against Caste system or the thoughts that lead to caste system in very first instance. Moreover every individual is born with different skin color, diffrent facial structure, different body built, different tastes, different hobbies, different skills, different requirements, diffrent thought process and diffrent intresets. And it is universal truth. Then Why do we expect every other person to think like us, be like us or act like us who are in majority. I would say it is all group consiousness, and majority of mankind suffers from it. Now lets talk about the LAW in a country. Someone commented that a countries laws should not be amended just to satisfy the requirements of some minor group. I ask you one question '"are not those minor group human beings, are not they citizen of country, don't they have any rights for themselves. If your answer is no to above, then what about the Sikh individuals asking foreign countries to amend their laws to exclude them from wearing Helmut. We all know sikhs are in minority in most of the countries outside India. what will be our stand on this issue then? Any countries' laws are made to avoid its citizens from any type of descriminitaion based on their lawful right distinctive actions or appearances. Laws are not made on the basis of majority or minority of individuals. Laws are there to avoid conflicts and smooth running of the public system as you might all know. In the end I would conclude that discussing homosexual or hetrosexual does not lead to GOD. Only things that lead to GOD are truthfulness, service of humanity, universal brotherhood and a fearless and logical thought process. And this is all sikhism teaches us in a nutshell. So please think twice before making homosexuality an issue related to sikhism. There are lot more dirty minds who can explore these issues to raise social violence for thier personal or political benefits. Moreover there are lot more other more important issues humanity is facing above these matters, such as issue of poverty, issue of natural disasters, issue of equal oppurtunity for females and many more. We need our mind focussed on those things. Bhul Chuk Maaf... Waheguru g ka khalsa, waheguru g ki fateh. Rupinder Singh [/QUOTE]
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