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Sikhism : An Old Wine In - New Bottle
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<blockquote data-quote="venod" data-source="post: 54648" data-attributes="member: 4851"><p><strong>Re: Sikhism : An old wine in -New Bottle</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sorry Tejwant ji, </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I do not know where and who Drupti was. She is not a character of Gita. She appears in Epic of Mahabharta. Like wise Raam was incarnation or a prophet, it matters a little. Similary it matters not if Guru Nanak was a prophet or an incarnation. He was a great saint and a spritual teacher. I cannot say more than this. Yes, He said <em><span style="color: blue">Dhur ki Bani.</span></em>....I have no doubt about it. He has a great reverence and we all love Him here. We do have a calender in our home. </span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The beliefs of Hindu thought are varied, and have been expounded upon by saints and writers throughout the centuries. Some of the salient elements of hindu beliefs are presented here. I have put in all the efforts nonetheless there may be mistakes</span><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/15321-sikhism-an-old-wine-new-bottle-6.html#_ftn1" target="_blank"><u><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">[1]</span></span></u></a><span style="font-size: 12px">. Enjoy! </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Do tell me if your ‘<span style="color: blue">Wahe-guru</span>’ and ‘<span style="color: blue">My God’</span> are different. They can never be and were never so as He is </span></span><em><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Saibhang</span></span></em><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">. Oh my dear friends why have you closed yourself. Come home. We all need you… my dear brothers. Let us not be swayed by the politicians and the middlemen to the God for there cannot be any like this. The road to His home is wide and clear. What is not, cannot be and what is, cannot be what it is not. God is always one and was like this only. Whether He understands ‘</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Om</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">’ or ‘</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Ong</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">’ it matters a little, all that matter is that we did our duty. Sikhs are the most beautiful human beings but have closed themselves into a shell. Try to break it. Make your presence felt. After being with you for a small time I am convinced that Sikhi is the greatest gift to mankind and most fortunate are those who are blessed with this. Good- bye to you, my trusted friends, we knew each other since we were nine or ten. I am happy here reading my new found spritual teachers Gita and SGGS. See you if ordained.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Enjoy this also.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My quest is over. I have found some answer to a broken chain of thoughts.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Awal Alla Noor Upaya Kudrat de Sab bande,</span></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Ek noor tey sab jag upajaiya Kaun bhale kaun mande.</span></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Awal Alla…………………………..</span></span></span></em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The following is also applicable to Sikhs as well. My blood is as red as yours. I have all tools and attachments as are provided in the workshop of God. 'My God' cannot be a better mechanic than 'wahegur.' Let them enjoy their creation and let us enjoy His creation.With thisnote I beg your leave.........</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Creation:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The universe exists in endless cycles of creation, preservation and destruction. There is no absolute end to the world. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On The True God:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There is but one true and absolute Self, Supreme Being. God is pure Love. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Paths to God:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Man is free to choose his form of worship, for all paths lead ultimately to God. Sin is only of the mind; Soul ispure. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Man's Plight:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Man's suffering is but his soul's immaturity. He is on a progressive path which leads from ignorance to knowledge, from death to immortality. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Evil:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There is no intrinsic evil. All is good. All is God. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Virtue and Salvation:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Virtuous conduct and light belief are the foundation of religious life. Liberation requires knowledge and personal attainment. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Doctrines:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Doctrines tend to be subtle, complex and even paradoxical. Freedom to worship and to believe in a variety of ways is predominant. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Enlightenment:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The goals of enlightenment and liberation are to be found in this life, within man himself. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">On Sainthood:</span></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The path to saintliness is through self-discipline, purification, concentration, and contemplation. Value is placed on ascetic ideals, individual sadhana, and yoga. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Lovingly </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Venod</span></span></p><p>You may send posts to reply to this. But I now consider it as a wastage of time to do this type of intellectualisations. </p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/15321-sikhism-an-old-wine-new-bottle-6.html#_ftnref1" target="_blank"><u><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #800080">[1]</span></span></u></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> It is standard article sent to you for knowing that no two religion will tell different things. It is our modern interpreters who would be responsible for this.Sorry for mistakes. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="venod, post: 54648, member: 4851"] [b]Re: Sikhism : An old wine in -New Bottle[/b] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Sorry Tejwant ji, [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]I do not know where and who Drupti was. She is not a character of Gita. She appears in Epic of Mahabharta. Like wise Raam was incarnation or a prophet, it matters a little. Similary it matters not if Guru Nanak was a prophet or an incarnation. He was a great saint and a spritual teacher. I cannot say more than this. Yes, He said [I][COLOR=blue]Dhur ki Bani.[/COLOR][/I]....I have no doubt about it. He has a great reverence and we all love Him here. We do have a calender in our home. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]The beliefs of Hindu thought are varied, and have been expounded upon by saints and writers throughout the centuries. Some of the salient elements of hindu beliefs are presented here. I have put in all the efforts nonetheless there may be mistakes[/SIZE][URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/15321-sikhism-an-old-wine-new-bottle-6.html#_ftn1"][U][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080][1][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/URL][SIZE=3]. Enjoy! [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]Do tell me if your ‘[COLOR=blue]Wahe-guru[/COLOR]’ and ‘[COLOR=blue]My God’[/COLOR] are different. They can never be and were never so as He is [/FONT][/COLOR][I][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Saibhang[/FONT][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]. Oh my dear friends why have you closed yourself. Come home. We all need you… my dear brothers. Let us not be swayed by the politicians and the middlemen to the God for there cannot be any like this. The road to His home is wide and clear. What is not, cannot be and what is, cannot be what it is not. God is always one and was like this only. Whether He understands ‘[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Om[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]’ or ‘[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial]Ong[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]’ it matters a little, all that matter is that we did our duty. Sikhs are the most beautiful human beings but have closed themselves into a shell. Try to break it. Make your presence felt. After being with you for a small time I am convinced that Sikhi is the greatest gift to mankind and most fortunate are those who are blessed with this. Good- bye to you, my trusted friends, we knew each other since we were nine or ten. I am happy here reading my new found spritual teachers Gita and SGGS. See you if ordained.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Enjoy this also.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]My quest is over. I have found some answer to a broken chain of thoughts.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [I][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Awal Alla Noor Upaya Kudrat de Sab bande,[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Ek noor tey sab jag upajaiya Kaun bhale kaun mande.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=blue][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Awal Alla…………………………..[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/I] The following is also applicable to Sikhs as well. My blood is as red as yours. I have all tools and attachments as are provided in the workshop of God. 'My God' cannot be a better mechanic than 'wahegur.' Let them enjoy their creation and let us enjoy His creation.With thisnote I beg your leave......... [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Creation:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]The universe exists in endless cycles of creation, preservation and destruction. There is no absolute end to the world. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On The True God:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]There is but one true and absolute Self, Supreme Being. God is pure Love. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Paths to God:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Man is free to choose his form of worship, for all paths lead ultimately to God. Sin is only of the mind; Soul ispure. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Man's Plight:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Man's suffering is but his soul's immaturity. He is on a progressive path which leads from ignorance to knowledge, from death to immortality. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Evil:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]There is no intrinsic evil. All is good. All is God. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Virtue and Salvation:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Virtuous conduct and light belief are the foundation of religious life. Liberation requires knowledge and personal attainment. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Doctrines:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Doctrines tend to be subtle, complex and even paradoxical. Freedom to worship and to believe in a variety of ways is predominant. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Enlightenment:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]The goals of enlightenment and liberation are to be found in this life, within man himself. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]On Sainthood:[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]The path to saintliness is through self-discipline, purification, concentration, and contemplation. Value is placed on ascetic ideals, individual sadhana, and yoga. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Lovingly [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]Venod[/FONT][/COLOR] You may send posts to reply to this. But I now consider it as a wastage of time to do this type of intellectualisations. [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/15321-sikhism-an-old-wine-new-bottle-6.html#_ftnref1"][U][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#800080][1][/COLOR][/FONT][/U][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman] It is standard article sent to you for knowing that no two religion will tell different things. It is our modern interpreters who would be responsible for this.Sorry for mistakes. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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