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<blockquote data-quote="naingwin1976" data-source="post: 93291" data-attributes="member: 7717"><p>Dear Lotus lion Ji,</p><p>i will discuss from here and not to offends other i'll use Allah as lord of universes which is revealed in Surah Fahtihah the opening in first chapter of first page of Koran. ,</p><p></p><p><strong><u>3) Difference in Philosophy</u></strong></p><p></p><p>Where <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Sikhi</a> and Islam differ quite fundamentally is on the basic kernels of philosophy.</p><p></p><p>For Me, The core Philosophy of <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Sikhi</a> can be described by the following points:</p><p>Source:: Sikhism Philosophy Network <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/23945-sikhis-root-in-eternal-shabad-guru.html#post93133" target="_blank">http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/23945-sikhis-root-in-eternal-shabad-guru.html#post93133</a></p><p></p><p><strong>1) There is 1 God for all known by many names worshipped in many ways.</strong></p><p></p><p>In Islam only one Lord of universes and he had a lot of name. 99 names are reveal in Koran to call him. but there are a lot names that Human can't understand like universes. Lord asked human to worship in different way to differentiate follower different prophets( how were chosen to came upon earth by will of lord of universes to preach, to teach ways of life,to give good news and to warn. Rules and laws are also different from each other to ease burden of humans who can do only a little time by time. That already teach in Koran 1500 years ago. There are surprises about this and due to it's only ages one. </p><p>Lord of universes is always updated the Rules and Laws for humans by sending prophets times to times, epochs to epochs, nations to nations even to very remote African jungles peoples until last times to close all teaching complete. And then in Koran Lord of universes warn to humans that in the days of judgment he'll not accepted any complaint from humans that no prophets were send to them for teaching,warning and giving news.</p><p>****All prophets who came upon earth gave news of last and seal of prophets and even gave his name in different languages.**** I'll discuss you in other posts.</p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong>2) Upon a physical death the Soul is reincarnated into another life form.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>This one is view of Hindus and Buddhist, earlier times of their religious teaching and still disputes about who hold this views first mostly in south east asian Buddhist country.</p><p></p><p>Theoretically and philosophically more over mathematically we can prove wrong. </p><p>I can explain in this way, in universe all religions excepted Islam hold the view of single universe( never mentioned in other religious about a lot universes in spaces (Islam mentions 10800 universes in which other kinds of creature live)</p><p>let say in one universe including unseen live forms live together how they incarnated to each other. Mathematically you can calculated by yourself.</p><p>In known worlds, today in livestock farms </p><p>1. millions of chickens/cows/pigs/fish ect.. are breeding and killings.</p><p>2. millions of insets like bugs/ants/mosquitoes/fly/flees/ ect,.. are born and dead.</p><p>3. millions of peoples are born and dead ( even in china a lone populations 100times higher then 100 years ago)</p><p>4. as per Darwin theories (even i didn't accepted this can calculated a few ) known worlds starting point there only a few species exited than today. How came a lot of species (like fishes, mammals,insects, humans) are formed by incarnation.</p><p>This will explain you a few points.</p><p></p><p><strong>3) The differences in people's lives, be they rich or poor, Black or White, Fully abled Disabled and so forth is not by random chance, but by <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Karma</a> which we are all heirs of and are effected by the way that we live.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>In Islam it's already explained well then incarnation theories in other religions(which is only philosophy can't apply </p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>In live philosophy work only a few, because of we can live only one for sure if one is enough.</strong> are you agree that?</p><p></p><p>General ways your explanations seen goods but forget a lots of point to consider.</p><p>1. There is always a starting point to make things happen. When all life starts who choose Karmas ? from where? who set the rules?</p><p></p><p>let me explain a few, </p><p></p><p>A tiger eat a deer it's not a sin because Lord of universes created the tiger with teeth that only can chew meats if we have to blame tiger for eating meats first we have to blames Lord of universes who created tiger with that teeth.</p><p>But Lord of universes never give winds because that is dengerous for other live and also give deer to more higher speed of running than tiger, also teach tiger to how to hunt. There is struggle of life start.</p><p>Don't you see some disable persons are more nice than able persons. poor persons pray more than rich persons. why ?they knew what is life by that way.</p><p>learn from history,for example Lord of universes gave to us is that Lord of universes make Hitler of German to poor at start of life but later with his effort to struggle in life Lord of universes gave what he already promise ( that is what you will try in this life i'll give you all that in this life). <strong>What happend later? Killed a lot of peoples.</strong></p><p>Are all peoples are sinner as per Karma? So there will be no more innocent in this worlds. So we can kill a peoples by referring Karma? no way. especially in court of intelligence it's not valid at all.</p><p>So why holding unprovable philosophy as a good point to explaint? it's not make me sense at all. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Islam on the other hand can be described by the following:</p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">1) God Has a set number of Names and there is a prescribed way of connecting with it via the prostration alone. Any other way is incorrect.</span></p><p><strong><u><span style="color: blue">Already explained see above</span></u></strong><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">More point is "how we can choose who is really a prophet ?"</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">It's easy what evidence he brings we can judge a people by only seeing.</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) of Islam shown Koran as evidence of prophet. </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">We can discuss how Koran reveal truth( by </span>[/FONT]<span style="color: blue">Sciencetifically )[/FONT]</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">2) 'Good' Muslims are destined for an eternal heavenly afterlife based on the way that an individual has lived one life here on Earth, whilst Non-Muslims irrespective of their conduct, even if it was better then the good Muslim, is automatically destined for an eternal fiery Hell.</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span>Because can you bear what a good muslim bear in this worlds? </p><p>First accepted Lord of universes without seeing and all revealation and his prophet<span style="color: blue">. </span><span style="color: black">Submission to Lord of universes </span>without denial even againt own wills and free choice.</p><p>Afew <span style="color: black">undesireable things againts own wills (festings,prayer by times,annual alms for poor, using money to sacrified animal (to get only for acknowlegdement of </span>Lord of universes but all meats go to poor).</p><p>Non-muslim problams is that </p><p>1. denial of last massages </p><p>2. Comparing Great Of Great Lord of universes with stoney images,picture, idols,humans and animal gods. Even a great empire can't stand if somebody </p><p>comapre him with a loser. </p><p>What if somebody compared creator universes and all things with his own creature? </p><p></p><p>3.Donating more than muslim mean to written on wall and walking infront of peoples. you can see in news. alms for poor who give? when muslims gave anyone know? Bible for foods, robs for foods.muslim intended only for Lord of the universes. And Lord of the universes warned to humans of this kinds that "you intended all to things to your idols and gods you have to ask what you want from them" </p><p>Fair enough right? </p><p>Give to one and want from other, who teach that anyway it's trying to taking all free by philosophy, that will not work before Lord of the universes. Lord of the universes is not fool.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">3) As far as I am aware, Islam does not explain why there is such a wide variety in the conditions in people's lives. I.e. No <a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Karma</a> (on a Side note I would like to find out what Islam says about this.)</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p>I explained already referred that if need more, i can give you more.</p><p>Like racing track you can see some one is before you, someone is behind you but all are same in measurement. look a round you some time. rich or poor, disable or able , wise or unwise is no problam. problams is what you choose the ways. </p><p></p><p></p><p>If the pure fundamentals are this far apart, then it can quite clearly be seen that <strong><u><span style="color: blue"><a href="http://www.sikhism.us" target="_blank">Sikhi</a> and Islam are their own Dharmas.</span></u></strong></p><p></p><p>May be but about Lord of the universes, Sikh and Islam are quite clear same only practices are different i don't know why? </p><p>For examples if you write one of your Lord names among names , i can prove that is already in Islam. Coincidence or consequence not sure? Now i'm reading my G-father formar religious books(my Gfather was a sikh name Gupta Sign)</p><p></p><p>Bye for now brother, i'll post later time</p><p>:advocate:</p><p></p><p>naingwin1976[/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="naingwin1976, post: 93291, member: 7717"] Dear Lotus lion Ji, i will discuss from here and not to offends other i'll use Allah as lord of universes which is revealed in Surah Fahtihah the opening in first chapter of first page of Koran. , [B][U]3) Difference in Philosophy[/U][/B] Where [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Sikhi[/URL] and Islam differ quite fundamentally is on the basic kernels of philosophy. For Me, The core Philosophy of [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Sikhi[/URL] can be described by the following points: Source:: Sikhism Philosophy Network [URL]http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/23945-sikhis-root-in-eternal-shabad-guru.html#post93133[/URL] [B]1) There is 1 God for all known by many names worshipped in many ways.[/B] In Islam only one Lord of universes and he had a lot of name. 99 names are reveal in Koran to call him. but there are a lot names that Human can't understand like universes. Lord asked human to worship in different way to differentiate follower different prophets( how were chosen to came upon earth by will of lord of universes to preach, to teach ways of life,to give good news and to warn. Rules and laws are also different from each other to ease burden of humans who can do only a little time by time. That already teach in Koran 1500 years ago. There are surprises about this and due to it's only ages one. Lord of universes is always updated the Rules and Laws for humans by sending prophets times to times, epochs to epochs, nations to nations even to very remote African jungles peoples until last times to close all teaching complete. And then in Koran Lord of universes warn to humans that in the days of judgment he'll not accepted any complaint from humans that no prophets were send to them for teaching,warning and giving news. ****All prophets who came upon earth gave news of last and seal of prophets and even gave his name in different languages.**** I'll discuss you in other posts. [B]2) Upon a physical death the Soul is reincarnated into another life form. [/B] This one is view of Hindus and Buddhist, earlier times of their religious teaching and still disputes about who hold this views first mostly in south east asian Buddhist country. Theoretically and philosophically more over mathematically we can prove wrong. I can explain in this way, in universe all religions excepted Islam hold the view of single universe( never mentioned in other religious about a lot universes in spaces (Islam mentions 10800 universes in which other kinds of creature live) let say in one universe including unseen live forms live together how they incarnated to each other. Mathematically you can calculated by yourself. In known worlds, today in livestock farms 1. millions of chickens/cows/pigs/fish ect.. are breeding and killings. 2. millions of insets like bugs/ants/mosquitoes/fly/flees/ ect,.. are born and dead. 3. millions of peoples are born and dead ( even in china a lone populations 100times higher then 100 years ago) 4. as per Darwin theories (even i didn't accepted this can calculated a few ) known worlds starting point there only a few species exited than today. How came a lot of species (like fishes, mammals,insects, humans) are formed by incarnation. This will explain you a few points. [B]3) The differences in people's lives, be they rich or poor, Black or White, Fully abled Disabled and so forth is not by random chance, but by [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Karma[/URL] which we are all heirs of and are effected by the way that we live. [/B] In Islam it's already explained well then incarnation theories in other religions(which is only philosophy can't apply [B] In live philosophy work only a few, because of we can live only one for sure if one is enough.[/B] are you agree that? General ways your explanations seen goods but forget a lots of point to consider. 1. There is always a starting point to make things happen. When all life starts who choose Karmas ? from where? who set the rules? let me explain a few, A tiger eat a deer it's not a sin because Lord of universes created the tiger with teeth that only can chew meats if we have to blame tiger for eating meats first we have to blames Lord of universes who created tiger with that teeth. But Lord of universes never give winds because that is dengerous for other live and also give deer to more higher speed of running than tiger, also teach tiger to how to hunt. There is struggle of life start. Don't you see some disable persons are more nice than able persons. poor persons pray more than rich persons. why ?they knew what is life by that way. learn from history,for example Lord of universes gave to us is that Lord of universes make Hitler of German to poor at start of life but later with his effort to struggle in life Lord of universes gave what he already promise ( that is what you will try in this life i'll give you all that in this life). [B]What happend later? Killed a lot of peoples.[/B] Are all peoples are sinner as per Karma? So there will be no more innocent in this worlds. So we can kill a peoples by referring Karma? no way. especially in court of intelligence it's not valid at all. So why holding unprovable philosophy as a good point to explaint? it's not make me sense at all. Islam on the other hand can be described by the following: [COLOR=blue] 1) God Has a set number of Names and there is a prescribed way of connecting with it via the prostration alone. Any other way is incorrect.[/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=blue]Already explained see above[/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=blue] More point is "how we can choose who is really a prophet ?" It's easy what evidence he brings we can judge a people by only seeing. Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) of Islam shown Koran as evidence of prophet. We can discuss how Koran reveal truth( by [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue]Sciencetifically )[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue] 2) 'Good' Muslims are destined for an eternal heavenly afterlife based on the way that an individual has lived one life here on Earth, whilst Non-Muslims irrespective of their conduct, even if it was better then the good Muslim, is automatically destined for an eternal fiery Hell. [/COLOR]Because can you bear what a good muslim bear in this worlds? First accepted Lord of universes without seeing and all revealation and his prophet[COLOR=blue]. [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Submission to Lord of universes [/COLOR]without denial even againt own wills and free choice. Afew [COLOR=black]undesireable things againts own wills (festings,prayer by times,annual alms for poor, using money to sacrified animal (to get only for acknowlegdement of [/COLOR]Lord of universes but all meats go to poor). Non-muslim problams is that 1. denial of last massages 2. Comparing Great Of Great Lord of universes with stoney images,picture, idols,humans and animal gods. Even a great empire can't stand if somebody comapre him with a loser. What if somebody compared creator universes and all things with his own creature? 3.Donating more than muslim mean to written on wall and walking infront of peoples. you can see in news. alms for poor who give? when muslims gave anyone know? Bible for foods, robs for foods.muslim intended only for Lord of the universes. And Lord of the universes warned to humans of this kinds that "you intended all to things to your idols and gods you have to ask what you want from them" Fair enough right? Give to one and want from other, who teach that anyway it's trying to taking all free by philosophy, that will not work before Lord of the universes. Lord of the universes is not fool. [COLOR=blue] 3) As far as I am aware, Islam does not explain why there is such a wide variety in the conditions in people's lives. I.e. No [URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Karma[/URL] (on a Side note I would like to find out what Islam says about this.) [/COLOR] I explained already referred that if need more, i can give you more. Like racing track you can see some one is before you, someone is behind you but all are same in measurement. look a round you some time. rich or poor, disable or able , wise or unwise is no problam. problams is what you choose the ways. If the pure fundamentals are this far apart, then it can quite clearly be seen that [B][U][COLOR=blue][URL="http://www.sikhism.us"]Sikhi[/URL] and Islam are their own Dharmas.[/COLOR][/U][/B] May be but about Lord of the universes, Sikh and Islam are quite clear same only practices are different i don't know why? For examples if you write one of your Lord names among names , i can prove that is already in Islam. Coincidence or consequence not sure? Now i'm reading my G-father formar religious books(my Gfather was a sikh name Gupta Sign) Bye for now brother, i'll post later time :advocate: naingwin1976[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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