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ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
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Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="lotus lion" data-source="post: 93131" data-attributes="member: 5620"><p><u><strong>1) The Word Sect</strong></u></p><p></p><p>The word sect is what causes Sikhs a lot of grief, and if I may speak frankly, is an insult to me as an individual and a vast majority of The Sikhs, if not all of us. </p><p> </p><p>Not only because it is completely incorrect but because it can mislead Brothers and Sisters who are not aware of the sheer fundamentals of their Dharma, causing them to fall into turmoil, confusion and anguish for no reason, and as Sikhs, we will not allow that. </p><p> </p><p>By definition, a sect is a body that has broken off from a larger group due to a dispute about their religious doctrine.</p><p> </p><p>Let us take Buddhism as an example.</p><p> </p><p>Major schools of thought would be Theravada, Zen, and Mahayana.</p><p> </p><p>Now let us take Islam.</p><p> </p><p>Major Schools of thought would be Ahmadiyya Shi'a and Sunni </p><p> </p><p>What can be noted is that they derive their teachings from the their parent religion but had a dispute on some level causing a different school of thought to be set up and as a result have deviated from their orthodox teachings.</p><p> </p><p>Sikhi has not derived its teachings from Islam, therefore a dispute with respect to this could not have taken place, so no deviation has occoured and as a result it is totally fallacy to say that Sikhi is a sect of another.</p><p> </p><p>As an analogy, consider If I were to make the statement 'Islam is a sect of Buddhism' pointing out the similarities between Buddhism and Islam to sphere head my arguments', then attempting to say that Islam is infact Buddhism as their teachings have come from The Buddha. One would most possibly laugh. </p><p>But if I were to continue down this avenue with force, I would begin to cause offence and anger.</p><p> </p><p>If on the other hand, I were to make the statement that 'Islam and Buddhism have not derived their teachings from another, and are simply expressing key principles in different ways', then we have automatically created a platform where there is ample room to discuss similarities and differences without any room for mallace. </p><p> </p><p>And this is exactly where Sikhi stands. Sikhi is its own Dharma as the Bani is rooted in the Eternal Shabad. The Teachings of the Sikh Dharma are not derived from another but is the re-expression of the Shabad in its original form.</p><p> </p><p>Any step taken to say that Sikhi is merely a sect is an attempt to cause confusion amongst Sikhs, to reduce its impact on the world and stop Sikhi taking its rightful roots which is totally unacceptable.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks,</p><p> </p><p>Lotus</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lotus lion, post: 93131, member: 5620"] [U][B]1) The Word Sect[/B][/U] The word sect is what causes Sikhs a lot of grief, and if I may speak frankly, is an insult to me as an individual and a vast majority of The Sikhs, if not all of us. Not only because it is completely incorrect but because it can mislead Brothers and Sisters who are not aware of the sheer fundamentals of their Dharma, causing them to fall into turmoil, confusion and anguish for no reason, and as Sikhs, we will not allow that. By definition, a sect is a body that has broken off from a larger group due to a dispute about their religious doctrine. Let us take Buddhism as an example. Major schools of thought would be Theravada, Zen, and Mahayana. Now let us take Islam. Major Schools of thought would be Ahmadiyya Shi'a and Sunni What can be noted is that they derive their teachings from the their parent religion but had a dispute on some level causing a different school of thought to be set up and as a result have deviated from their orthodox teachings. Sikhi has not derived its teachings from Islam, therefore a dispute with respect to this could not have taken place, so no deviation has occoured and as a result it is totally fallacy to say that Sikhi is a sect of another. As an analogy, consider If I were to make the statement 'Islam is a sect of Buddhism' pointing out the similarities between Buddhism and Islam to sphere head my arguments', then attempting to say that Islam is infact Buddhism as their teachings have come from The Buddha. One would most possibly laugh. But if I were to continue down this avenue with force, I would begin to cause offence and anger. If on the other hand, I were to make the statement that 'Islam and Buddhism have not derived their teachings from another, and are simply expressing key principles in different ways', then we have automatically created a platform where there is ample room to discuss similarities and differences without any room for mallace. And this is exactly where Sikhi stands. Sikhi is its own Dharma as the Bani is rooted in the Eternal Shabad. The Teachings of the Sikh Dharma are not derived from another but is the re-expression of the Shabad in its original form. Any step taken to say that Sikhi is merely a sect is an attempt to cause confusion amongst Sikhs, to reduce its impact on the world and stop Sikhi taking its rightful roots which is totally unacceptable. Thanks, Lotus [/QUOTE]
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