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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Original" data-source="post: 202462" data-attributes="member: 14400"><p>Don't worry, you're still young ! such are the characterstics of life, what you didn't understand few years back you do today, similarly, what you don't understand of my reasoning and explanating today, you will when the time is right. That is what we mean by evolution. What the original brain of the human once was, that is, small has now developed and enlarged [evolution].</p><p></p><p>the operative word here is "enjoyable" - what does it mean ! I'll let you play with it, but from what I want to say is, this you enjoying my posts is "something" which touches the chord with your "something". This something is your inner constitution, say consciousness, which to date science is seeking to understand biologically. It has always been a source of mystery, which both the philosophers and the scientists have succeeded in demystifying to a degree, but still it slips through any net they try n cast with words. Gur Ghar has referred to it as <strong>chetna</strong>, which is synonmous and interchangeable with the word <strong>"soul"</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Let us probe "enjoy" a little further, We can summarily construct a premise, "pleasure a state of being is an active part of enjoying". Gur Ghar's philosophy starts from here, that is, "hey <strong>soul,</strong> seeking <strong>pleasures</strong> [a state of being, which 75% of jo public does] here n there and then if you're lucky moving on to the next state, <strong>happiness</strong> [a state which remainder 24% of jo public pursues], thinking this is it, my home, great I love it, but wait, your true state is the next one, <strong>"bliss"</strong> [anand, which the 1% attempts]. This state of being Gur Ghar refers to as the chautha pad and it this chutha pad, which does<strong> "not" </strong>emerge from the activity of a kilogram of nerve cells [brain] but is independent of it. It is this state which reamins a mystery to the intellect [manmukh] but a home to thegurmukh [believer].</p><p></p><p>Don't worry, slowly but surely it will begin to make sense, besides, lot of it is technical jargon if you ask me - real sikh is love n live without books n thing. Our ancestral past is a classic example - we're uneducated illiterate kool n deadly lot, ploughing the fields and living in hukam - who needs rescue squad with this hocus pocus intellectual diarrhea [joke]</p><p></p><p>Brother H is the expert on "universal consonance" - visit his camp. Once you've identified consciousness, I suggest you get it patent protected, that'll be my camp and since I'm on the eve of retiring, invoice will be manageable.</p><p></p><p>You're getting close !</p><p></p><p>You never die. Your guru's died for you so that you can live for ever [spiritual] that is the short n curly of Sikhism. Go back n reread page 1412 - what is Baba Nanak saying, "you want to play girl - come prepared coz I'll take you to your true home and never let you return to this world of you me, this n that, right n wrong, etc etc". This kilogram of nerve cells let it go says Nanak.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You are sargun, you are nirgun - time will bring it around to show you, "have faith" says Nanak - <strong>"faith is to believe what you don't see, the reward of this faith is to see what you believe" </strong>saint Augustine</p><p>Take care - </p><p>Ciao</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Original, post: 202462, member: 14400"] Don't worry, you're still young ! such are the characterstics of life, what you didn't understand few years back you do today, similarly, what you don't understand of my reasoning and explanating today, you will when the time is right. That is what we mean by evolution. What the original brain of the human once was, that is, small has now developed and enlarged [evolution]. the operative word here is "enjoyable" - what does it mean ! I'll let you play with it, but from what I want to say is, this you enjoying my posts is "something" which touches the chord with your "something". This something is your inner constitution, say consciousness, which to date science is seeking to understand biologically. It has always been a source of mystery, which both the philosophers and the scientists have succeeded in demystifying to a degree, but still it slips through any net they try n cast with words. Gur Ghar has referred to it as [B]chetna[/B], which is synonmous and interchangeable with the word [B]"soul"[/B]. Let us probe "enjoy" a little further, We can summarily construct a premise, "pleasure a state of being is an active part of enjoying". Gur Ghar's philosophy starts from here, that is, "hey [B]soul,[/B] seeking [B]pleasures[/B] [a state of being, which 75% of jo public does] here n there and then if you're lucky moving on to the next state, [B]happiness[/B] [a state which remainder 24% of jo public pursues], thinking this is it, my home, great I love it, but wait, your true state is the next one, [B]"bliss"[/B] [anand, which the 1% attempts]. This state of being Gur Ghar refers to as the chautha pad and it this chutha pad, which does[B] "not" [/B]emerge from the activity of a kilogram of nerve cells [brain] but is independent of it. It is this state which reamins a mystery to the intellect [manmukh] but a home to thegurmukh [believer]. Don't worry, slowly but surely it will begin to make sense, besides, lot of it is technical jargon if you ask me - real sikh is love n live without books n thing. Our ancestral past is a classic example - we're uneducated illiterate kool n deadly lot, ploughing the fields and living in hukam - who needs rescue squad with this hocus pocus intellectual diarrhea [joke] Brother H is the expert on "universal consonance" - visit his camp. Once you've identified consciousness, I suggest you get it patent protected, that'll be my camp and since I'm on the eve of retiring, invoice will be manageable. You're getting close ! You never die. Your guru's died for you so that you can live for ever [spiritual] that is the short n curly of Sikhism. Go back n reread page 1412 - what is Baba Nanak saying, "you want to play girl - come prepared coz I'll take you to your true home and never let you return to this world of you me, this n that, right n wrong, etc etc". This kilogram of nerve cells let it go says Nanak. You are sargun, you are nirgun - time will bring it around to show you, "have faith" says Nanak - [B]"faith is to believe what you don't see, the reward of this faith is to see what you believe" [/B]saint Augustine Take care - Ciao [/QUOTE]
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