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Gurbani (1118-1123)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
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Gurbani (1254-1293)
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Gurbani (1294-96)
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<blockquote data-quote="bulleshah" data-source="post: 25133" data-attributes="member: 2717"><p><strong>vijaydeepsingh,</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>>>>></strong>We are told to not to disrespect the faith of others and can say idolaltor or worshipper</p><p>of demigods without image also may get salvation by will of our Akal God but these idols have</p><p>been weakness of your forefather and lead to often divisions in you and ultimate defeat, and</p><p>process is still on in Bengal,Srii lankaKashmeer ,Pakistan etc<strong>.<<<<</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then how come we can continue to call idolatory fooloish. We may not agree with it</p><p>but don't you think we need to remember that for those who indulge in idol worship</p><p>it's very important. Just as the lenght of the 'kachcha' is for the Khalsa Sant Sipahi.</p><p><a href="http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=79315&t=79315" target="_blank"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Read</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p><strong>>>>></strong>Guru told about Hindus worshipping stone,These stone worshipper have mind</p><p>like stone and one day my Khalsa will break thier Devals and idols (Sau Sakhi).<strong><<<<</strong></p><p></p><p>What about 'modi khana' ?? And say, is not the Golden Temple made of the same stone</p><p>the Hindu idol is made of. I see no difference except a Gurudwara is a Rs. crores+ stone idol</p><p>and the Hindu idol costs few hundred and could be carried anywhere in ones pocket.</p><p>Even to the toilet. Why they even sell Geeta on the gutter-side book stores.</p><p>Can the Neo-Sikh match that ??</p><p></p><p><strong>>>>> </strong>is not that shamefull when Holy Veda states that God has no image and we put life</p><p>in image by Pran Pratishata. <strong><<<<</strong></p><p></p><p>What's wrong with that. I don't even know what exactly it means but one thing I do know</p><p>that all life is the outcome of the configuration of matter.</p><p></p><p>Besides the Veda's say many things.</p><p><span style="color: #ff6600"><em><strong>"Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahudha Vadanti".</strong></em></span></p><p>(There is only one truth, only men describe it in different ways).</p><p>- - -The Rig Veda - - -</p><p></p><p><strong>Thanks.</strong></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong>NASADIYA</strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong>The creation Hymn of the Rig Veda</strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There was neither non-existence nor existence then. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There was neither the realm of space nor the sky which is beyond. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>What stirred? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Where? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>In whose protection? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Was there water, bottlemlessly deep?</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There was neither death nor immortality then. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There was no distinguishing sign of night nor of day. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>That One breathed, windless, by its own impulse. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Other than that there was nothing beyond.</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning, </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>with no distinguishing sign, all this was water. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>The life force that was covered with emptiness, </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>that One arose through the power of heat.</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Desire came upon that One in the beginning, </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>that was the first seed of mind. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>found the bond of existence and non-existence.</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Their cord was extended across. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Was there below? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Was there above? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There were seed-placers, there were powers. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>There was impulse beneath, there was giving forth above.</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Who really knows? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Who will here proclaim it? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Whence was it produced? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Whence is this creation? </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe. </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Who then knows whence it has arisen?</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>Whence this creation has arisen</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>the One who looks down on it, </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>in the highest heaven, only He knows </strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: darkorange"><strong>or perhaps even He does not know.</strong></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bulleshah, post: 25133, member: 2717"] [B]vijaydeepsingh,[/B] [B]>>>>[/B]We are told to not to disrespect the faith of others and can say idolaltor or worshipper of demigods without image also may get salvation by will of our Akal God but these idols have been weakness of your forefather and lead to often divisions in you and ultimate defeat, and process is still on in Bengal,Srii lankaKashmeer ,Pakistan etc[B].<<<<[/B] Then how come we can continue to call idolatory fooloish. We may not agree with it but don't you think we need to remember that for those who indulge in idol worship it's very important. Just as the lenght of the 'kachcha' is for the Khalsa Sant Sipahi. [URL='http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=79315&t=79315'][COLOR=darkorange][B]Read[/B][/COLOR][/URL] [B]>>>>[/B]Guru told about Hindus worshipping stone,These stone worshipper have mind like stone and one day my Khalsa will break thier Devals and idols (Sau Sakhi).[B]<<<<[/B] What about 'modi khana' ?? And say, is not the Golden Temple made of the same stone the Hindu idol is made of. I see no difference except a Gurudwara is a Rs. crores+ stone idol and the Hindu idol costs few hundred and could be carried anywhere in ones pocket. Even to the toilet. Why they even sell Geeta on the gutter-side book stores. Can the Neo-Sikh match that ?? [B]>>>> [/B]is not that shamefull when Holy Veda states that God has no image and we put life in image by Pran Pratishata. [B]<<<<[/B] What's wrong with that. I don't even know what exactly it means but one thing I do know that all life is the outcome of the configuration of matter. Besides the Veda's say many things. [COLOR=#ff6600][I][B]"Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahudha Vadanti".[/B][/I][/COLOR] (There is only one truth, only men describe it in different ways). - - -The Rig Veda - - - [B]Thanks.[/B] [CENTER][B][B]NASADIYA The creation Hymn of the Rig Veda[/B] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=darkorange][B]There was neither non-existence nor existence then. [/B] [B]There was neither the realm of space nor the sky which is beyond. [/B] [B]What stirred? [/B] [B]Where? [/B] [B]In whose protection? [/B] [B]Was there water, bottlemlessly deep?[/B] [B]There was neither death nor immortality then. [/B] [B]There was no distinguishing sign of night nor of day. [/B] [B]That One breathed, windless, by its own impulse. [/B] [B]Other than that there was nothing beyond.[/B] [B]Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning, [/B] [B]with no distinguishing sign, all this was water. [/B] [B]The life force that was covered with emptiness, [/B] [B]that One arose through the power of heat.[/B] [B]Desire came upon that One in the beginning, [/B] [B]that was the first seed of mind. [/B] [B]Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom [/B] [B]found the bond of existence and non-existence.[/B] [B]Their cord was extended across. [/B] [B]Was there below? [/B] [B]Was there above? [/B] [B]There were seed-placers, there were powers. [/B] [B]There was impulse beneath, there was giving forth above.[/B] [B]Who really knows? [/B] [B]Who will here proclaim it? [/B] [B]Whence was it produced? [/B] [B]Whence is this creation? [/B] [B]The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe. [/B] [B]Who then knows whence it has arisen?[/B] [B]Whence this creation has arisen[/B] [B]perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not[/B] [B]the One who looks down on it, [/B] [B]in the highest heaven, only He knows [/B] [B]or perhaps even He does not know.[/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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