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Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="RJames" data-source="post: 52911" data-attributes="member: 2661"><p>Kieran Sidhu introduced the key element that I think has created so much confusion among our young people and allowed many double standards to be perpetuated. It is the difference between faith and culture, Gurbani and image. All too often the two are mutually exclusive and on this subject matter, particularly relevant. </p><p> </p><p> Not withstanding that traditional Punjabi culture is man dominant; the Sikh Gurus have constantly conveyed God's desire for men and women to be equal. Their directions are that we, as a society and individually, accept one another as brothers and sisters, and to be respectful of all persons. For someone to say of the current imbalance between genders, "that is just the way it is" suggests they are unwilling to accept the notion of equality or for that matter, to change the status quo. The statement trivializes the subordinate role thrust upon so many of our young women and the pressure applied to them to submit and accept it. </p><p> </p><p> For I haven't read anything in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ("SGGS") that supports the contention that parents need bribe worthless young men to marry their daughters but dowries are still very common in Canada. Nor have I read anything supporting the acts of parents-in-law subjugating their daughters-in-law through condemnation and violence, but many still do. In both cases, I believe the inequality of rights is motivated by the influence of culture not faith. It's essentially an issue of disrespect and inequality that speaks directly to the subject at hand.</p><p> </p><p> The structure of Punjabi-Canadian culture is less stable that one might think. With parents attuned to Punjabi culture and their children attuned to Canadian culture, the two are invariably in conflict. Ask any teenager about the reasons why they feel they must lie to the parents about what they're ve been up to outside the house. Boys, girls, dating, drinking, going to the mall; you name it there are all sorts of commonplace, albeit western, liberties that our youth must lie to their parents about in order hang-out with their friends. The consequence is that our youth are becoming consummate liars which is in direct conflict with one of our principle tenets- truth. </p><p> </p><p> On the subject of alcohol consumption, it is my understanding is that it was Guru Gobind Singh's direction that wine should not be consumed because it induced the consumer's mind to wander from God. I don't doubt the wisdom of his direction because drunkenness certainly does that and more. And Guru Gobind Singh made no distinction between differing genders. But; not withstanding the common sense reasoning of Guru Gobind Singh's direction, I've not yet read anything in SGGS yet that supports it and isn't SGGS accepted as the final Devine authority for all Sikhs? </p><p> </p><p> The confusion of our youth, particularly our young women comes from many sources. I think it is all too often created by parents whose attitudes are influenced by their place in society. Remember too that as Sikhs we accept sole responsibility for the development of our soul in relation to God. At death, whether your soul joins God or you are reborn in another form is up to you now. How you choose to live and conduct yourself in the service of God is also your choice. Pray, serve, read, question, learn, live, laugh and love.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RJames, post: 52911, member: 2661"] Kieran Sidhu introduced the key element that I think has created so much confusion among our young people and allowed many double standards to be perpetuated. It is the difference between faith and culture, Gurbani and image. All too often the two are mutually exclusive and on this subject matter, particularly relevant. Not withstanding that traditional Punjabi culture is man dominant; the Sikh Gurus have constantly conveyed God's desire for men and women to be equal. Their directions are that we, as a society and individually, accept one another as brothers and sisters, and to be respectful of all persons. For someone to say of the current imbalance between genders, "that is just the way it is" suggests they are unwilling to accept the notion of equality or for that matter, to change the status quo. The statement trivializes the subordinate role thrust upon so many of our young women and the pressure applied to them to submit and accept it. For I haven't read anything in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ("SGGS") that supports the contention that parents need bribe worthless young men to marry their daughters but dowries are still very common in Canada. Nor have I read anything supporting the acts of parents-in-law subjugating their daughters-in-law through condemnation and violence, but many still do. In both cases, I believe the inequality of rights is motivated by the influence of culture not faith. It's essentially an issue of disrespect and inequality that speaks directly to the subject at hand. The structure of Punjabi-Canadian culture is less stable that one might think. With parents attuned to Punjabi culture and their children attuned to Canadian culture, the two are invariably in conflict. Ask any teenager about the reasons why they feel they must lie to the parents about what they're ve been up to outside the house. Boys, girls, dating, drinking, going to the mall; you name it there are all sorts of commonplace, albeit western, liberties that our youth must lie to their parents about in order hang-out with their friends. The consequence is that our youth are becoming consummate liars which is in direct conflict with one of our principle tenets- truth. On the subject of alcohol consumption, it is my understanding is that it was Guru Gobind Singh's direction that wine should not be consumed because it induced the consumer's mind to wander from God. I don't doubt the wisdom of his direction because drunkenness certainly does that and more. And Guru Gobind Singh made no distinction between differing genders. But; not withstanding the common sense reasoning of Guru Gobind Singh's direction, I've not yet read anything in SGGS yet that supports it and isn't SGGS accepted as the final Devine authority for all Sikhs? The confusion of our youth, particularly our young women comes from many sources. I think it is all too often created by parents whose attitudes are influenced by their place in society. Remember too that as Sikhs we accept sole responsibility for the development of our soul in relation to God. At death, whether your soul joins God or you are reborn in another form is up to you now. How you choose to live and conduct yourself in the service of God is also your choice. Pray, serve, read, question, learn, live, laugh and love.:) Rj [/QUOTE]
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