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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Hai_Bhi_Sach" data-source="post: 51099" data-attributes="member: 4398"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is certainly not the type of response expected from a Sikh – A Student. You have obviously made up you mind, your God, your principles etc. You have shut the door to progress. You shape your own destiny. It is your own freewill. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">“Mitthat nivi nanka, gunn channgeaaian tatt” </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The seed of sikhi that Guru Nanak Dev ji has sowed is still struggling to sprout.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Some people are just not destined to know the truth even if it is right in front of them. They will cast doubts. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I picked on you for a purpose. You are the one who invited me back to the forum. I change my ID and came back. I wanted to see where dear kaur-1 ji stood and I have my reply. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">What I say here is not only applicable on you but to many others like you. Why do you come to this or any other forum. Is it to show your knowledge and wisdom.? Is this not EGO.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You should come to this forum with an open mind, to learn, not to show your command on Sikhism. Express your view and listen to the others. If there is any misunderstanding then discuss it (Sikhi Sikhya Gur Vichaar). Start with the notion that you may have got it wrong. Only them you will learn. You may not agree it then but you can always come back for clarification. We are not in competition here. We are the students of the same Gurus.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With my limited command of English knowledge and understanding, I give you my version of visiting the Guru.</span></span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">When you enter the Gurdwara you close your hands (I assume you have washed them and have your head covered). It indicates that one has not come to show your physical power, you are coming in peace. It is synonyms to putting your weapons down. </span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You bows your head as you approach “The Guru”, this is a sign of respect (Nimarta). </span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You stand in front of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji still with hands closed. Close your eyes and feel the Presence and Visualise the “The Guru, The teacher” consisting of 10 Gurus and 15 Bhagats all sitting together. The souls of 25 spiritually elevated beings backing up their experiences right in front of you. Eagerly waiting for you. </span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With your hands folded and head bowed, you kneel down. This indicates you are submissiveness to The Guru.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You put your hands down on the floor and bow touching your head on the floor. This is where you completely surrender to the Guru and are ready to accept his teaching. You are accepting that you are ready to accept “Gurus Mat”.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Guru blesses you(acknowledges you) and you take your seat among other like minded present.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You sit and listen to the Bani, Each Guru and Bhagat in turn stands up in front of you and relays their message hemmed in Classical Music. Because it elongates your ability to stay focused in the mood, in which the message is forth coming. They relay their emotions, experiences and teachings to you (through their bani). Giving us a direction, showing us a path to be one with God. </span></span></li> </ul><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">How blessed we are,. How much our Guru has thought of us. How can you not fall in love with such a Guru who though his “GUR” is showing us the path to God.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">What do we do, we gather the knowledge and come out to preach others. We ourselves do not assimilate the teaching. It is like a blind walking around with a torch of knowledge teaching the other blind who incidently also has a torch of knowledge, showing each other the correct path.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You can wake a person out his sleep but you cannot awake one that is pretending to sleep. GOOD BYE FORUM. “Sorry to be a Haddi in your Kabab”</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>My appologies for wasting your time. Rest asure, this will never happen again.</p><p>It is your problem and not mine if you want to respond or not.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">If I tell you that you are going in a wrong direction. If I prompt you to think again because you are walking around with a blind fold and that you should take it off and think again. Then I am guilty as charged. I apollogised. The problem with the likes of me is that those that come into contact with me I cannot bear to see them falling in a ditch.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I have already answered in the previous post to you. Read betwwen the lines. The answer is there</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am sorry I am not an answering machine to sit down to fuel you egos. I shall once again reject membership of this Forum. Good luck to you on your journey. I am Ekmusfair_ajnabi on my journey. Ekmusafir = traveller. Ajnabi = One without identity. You have to loose your identity to be one with him.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">“Jab aapa parsa bissar gya, Jit dekhan tith TU”.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The difference is that you are yet to follow but I have reached there with the blessings of my Guru.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Ekmusafir_Ajnabi. (Hai_Bhi_Sach)<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hai_Bhi_Sach, post: 51099, member: 4398"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This is certainly not the type of response expected from a Sikh – A Student. You have obviously made up you mind, your God, your principles etc. You have shut the door to progress. You shape your own destiny. It is your own freewill. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]“Mitthat nivi nanka, gunn channgeaaian tatt” [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The seed of sikhi that Guru Nanak Dev ji has sowed is still struggling to sprout.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Some people are just not destined to know the truth even if it is right in front of them. They will cast doubts. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I picked on you for a purpose. You are the one who invited me back to the forum. I change my ID and came back. I wanted to see where dear kaur-1 ji stood and I have my reply. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]What I say here is not only applicable on you but to many others like you. Why do you come to this or any other forum. Is it to show your knowledge and wisdom.? Is this not EGO.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You should come to this forum with an open mind, to learn, not to show your command on Sikhism. Express your view and listen to the others. If there is any misunderstanding then discuss it (Sikhi Sikhya Gur Vichaar). Start with the notion that you may have got it wrong. Only them you will learn. You may not agree it then but you can always come back for clarification. We are not in competition here. We are the students of the same Gurus.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With my limited command of English knowledge and understanding, I give you my version of visiting the Guru.[/SIZE][/FONT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]When you enter the Gurdwara you close your hands (I assume you have washed them and have your head covered). It indicates that one has not come to show your physical power, you are coming in peace. It is synonyms to putting your weapons down. [/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You bows your head as you approach “The Guru”, this is a sign of respect (Nimarta). [/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You stand in front of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji still with hands closed. Close your eyes and feel the Presence and Visualise the “The Guru, The teacher” consisting of 10 Gurus and 15 Bhagats all sitting together. The souls of 25 spiritually elevated beings backing up their experiences right in front of you. Eagerly waiting for you. [/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With your hands folded and head bowed, you kneel down. This indicates you are submissiveness to The Guru.[/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You put your hands down on the floor and bow touching your head on the floor. This is where you completely surrender to the Guru and are ready to accept his teaching. You are accepting that you are ready to accept “Gurus Mat”.[/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The Guru blesses you(acknowledges you) and you take your seat among other like minded present.[/SIZE][/FONT] [*][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You sit and listen to the Bani, Each Guru and Bhagat in turn stands up in front of you and relays their message hemmed in Classical Music. Because it elongates your ability to stay focused in the mood, in which the message is forth coming. They relay their emotions, experiences and teachings to you (through their bani). Giving us a direction, showing us a path to be one with God. [/SIZE][/FONT][/LIST] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]How blessed we are,. How much our Guru has thought of us. How can you not fall in love with such a Guru who though his “GUR” is showing us the path to God.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]What do we do, we gather the knowledge and come out to preach others. We ourselves do not assimilate the teaching. It is like a blind walking around with a torch of knowledge teaching the other blind who incidently also has a torch of knowledge, showing each other the correct path.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You can wake a person out his sleep but you cannot awake one that is pretending to sleep. GOOD BYE FORUM. “Sorry to be a Haddi in your Kabab”[/SIZE][/FONT] My appologies for wasting your time. Rest asure, this will never happen again. It is your problem and not mine if you want to respond or not. [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]If I tell you that you are going in a wrong direction. If I prompt you to think again because you are walking around with a blind fold and that you should take it off and think again. Then I am guilty as charged. I apollogised. The problem with the likes of me is that those that come into contact with me I cannot bear to see them falling in a ditch.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I have already answered in the previous post to you. Read betwwen the lines. The answer is there[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am sorry I am not an answering machine to sit down to fuel you egos. I shall once again reject membership of this Forum. Good luck to you on your journey. I am Ekmusfair_ajnabi on my journey. Ekmusafir = traveller. Ajnabi = One without identity. You have to loose your identity to be one with him.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]“Jab aapa parsa bissar gya, Jit dekhan tith TU”.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The difference is that you are yet to follow but I have reached there with the blessings of my Guru.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Ekmusafir_Ajnabi. (Hai_Bhi_Sach):) [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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