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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 158852" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p>Veer japjisahib04 ji if I may comment at least in reference to the pankti I referred to as below,</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਤਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਮਰੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%90%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਐਸੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਿੰਤਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਰੈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਸਵਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਉਤਰੈ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨॥</span></span> </p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Anṯ kāl jo isṯarī simrai aisī cẖinṯā mėh je marai.</span> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Besvā jon val val a▫uṯarai. ||2||</span> </p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: blue">To the end who keeps thinking of women, and die so wanting. Such so again and again born in prostitution life </span></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p style="text-align: left"><strong>Myth used to relate: </strong>Re-incarnation</p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong>HOW:</strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੇਸਵਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਲਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਉਤਰੈ</span></a></span></span><strong> </strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong>Why give example of female prostitute: </strong>Perhaps they understood that it was the most common mode of physical prostitution of the times. This is a very specific message with very specific intent and there was no need felt for political correctness by any of the Guru jis.</p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong>Comment: </strong>Trilochan ji were addressing people who would have believed in re-incarnation. To use it as a tool and not supporting re-incarnation, they stated that you are going to end up in the form of what you are denigrating through Kaam/lust.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Taranjeet Singh ji did a great job picking the title for the thread as it is basically for this case,</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p style="text-align: center"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">This is how I take it. I am not sure if it addresses your query.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Sat Sri Akal.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 158852, member: 14194"] Veer japjisahib04 ji if I may comment at least in reference to the pankti I referred to as below, [CENTER][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਤਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਮਰੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%90%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਐਸੀ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਚਿੰਤਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਰੈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਸਵਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਉਤਰੈ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma]Anṯ kāl jo isṯarī simrai aisī cẖinṯā mėh je marai.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]Besvā jon val val a▫uṯarai. ||2||[/FONT] [I][COLOR=blue]To the end who keeps thinking of women, and die so wanting. Such so again and again born in prostitution life [/COLOR][/I] [LEFT][B]Myth used to relate: [/B]Re-incarnation [B]HOW:[/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਬੇਸਵਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਲਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਅਉਤਰੈ[/FONT][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][B] Why give example of female prostitute: [/B]Perhaps they understood that it was the most common mode of physical prostitution of the times. This is a very specific message with very specific intent and there was no need felt for political correctness by any of the Guru jis. [B] Comment: [/B]Trilochan ji were addressing people who would have believed in re-incarnation. To use it as a tool and not supporting re-incarnation, they stated that you are going to end up in the form of what you are denigrating through Kaam/lust. Taranjeet Singh ji did a great job picking the title for the thread as it is basically for this case, [CENTER][/CENTER] This is how I take it. I am not sure if it addresses your query. Sat Sri Akal. [/LEFT] [/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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